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Offline Eleanor

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #225 on: May 29, 2017, 02:39:12 PM »
Swerving back on topic, Amaral didn't even realise that Aurial Gaspar and his wife made separate statements, or that Aurial's statement could not be more different in content from his wife's.

According to Amaral, the Gaspars made 'joint statements'.

The PJ, like the English police and (I dare say) police forces around the world take individual statements from individual witnesses.

In the particular instance of the statements made by Katriana Gaspar and her husband, that point is vital, because their statements could not be more different.

I do so agree.  But certain factions would really rather not discuss the vast differences in those two statements.
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #226 on: May 29, 2017, 03:16:35 PM »
Swerving back on topic, Amaral didn't even realise that Aurial Gaspar and his wife made separate statements, or that Aurial's statement could not be more different in content from his wife's.

According to Amaral, the Gaspars made 'joint statements'.

The PJ, like the English police and (I dare say) police forces around the world take individual statements from individual witnesses.

In the particular instance of the statements made by Katriana Gaspar and her husband, that point is vital, because their statements could not be more different.

Except in one significant detail.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #227 on: May 29, 2017, 03:23:13 PM »
Having watched the full video for a second time after reading some of the comments made on this thread, it is surprising what is revealed. It appears that damage limitation was the priority for some members of the tapas group that night and in the days which followed.  Amaral states very clearly that certain members of the group did exactly the same as the McCanns and used the back or patio door entrance to gain entry to the ground floor apartments. This was denied by them all but the McCanns were caught out when it was revealed that the keys to the front door had been left on the kitchen worktop. Gerry McCann then changed his statement and admitted to having used the patio door which was left unlocked.

The group members did use that exit at times. According to them they only did it when someone remained in the apartment, however. Only the Paynes couldn't use the passageway, I think, although some think it was possible to access the upper floor apartments from those gates opening onto the passageway;

CT'There were some, but that small gate...it also gives access to the apartments above.
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Offline Angelo222

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #228 on: May 29, 2017, 03:24:31 PM »
amaral is making claims on the video which are patently untrue...the dogs have not helped solve 200 cases here and in the us...and there are more untrue claims...the video is full of them

I think your ability to exaggerate is only surpassed by your own inability to recognise the evidence.  I have just viewed the video and I can see nothing wrong with it. Amaral was right to go through the various scenarios and point out that abduction belongs in the realms of fantasyland.  I don't agree with his frozen cadaver theory but it is his theory and he is free to speak about it.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #229 on: May 29, 2017, 03:47:18 PM »
I think your ability to exaggerate is only surpassed by your own inability to recognise the evidence.  I have just viewed the video and I can see nothing wrong with it. Amaral was right to go through the various scenarios and point out that abduction belongs in the realms of fantasyland.  I don't agree with his frozen cadaver theory but it is his theory and he is free to speak about it.

But it's not just my ability it's  several posters and you have not been able to manage to answer one of the lies I have pointed out
The video is full of them

If you want to ignore the facts then that's your prerogative.




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Offline Mr Gray

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #230 on: May 29, 2017, 04:03:15 PM »
I think your ability to exaggerate is only surpassed by your own inability to recognise the evidence.  I have just viewed the video and I can see nothing wrong with it. Amaral was right to go through the various scenarios and point out that abduction belongs in the realms of fantasyland.  I don't agree with his frozen cadaver theory but it is his theory and he is free to speak about it.

can you really not see how much fantasy amaral relies on to support his views...i find that astonishing...its not just me...several posters have highlighted the rubbish in the video yet you can see nothing wrong with it....
do you believe the lie taht the dogs have helped solve 200 cases.....perhaps you do

Offline Erngath

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #231 on: May 29, 2017, 04:50:05 PM »
He can.  The Supreme Court of Portugal said so.  I but only wonder if they realise what a can of worms they have opened.

 
Indeed.
One wonders what his next ridiculous theory will be. (imo)
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline Angelo222

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #232 on: May 29, 2017, 05:08:12 PM »
can you really not see how much fantasy amaral relies on to support his views...i find that astonishing...its not just me...several posters have highlighted the rubbish in the video yet you can see nothing wrong with it....
do you believe the lie taht the dogs have helped solve 200 cases.....perhaps you do

Is that the best example you can come up with, something which Amaral never even stated in the video.  Are you just criticising for the sake of it as you obviously haven't viewed the full video?
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Offline Eleanor

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #233 on: May 29, 2017, 05:10:39 PM »

Indeed.
One wonders what his next ridiculous theory will be. (imo)

In my ever so not humble opinion, I never have humble opinions,  Goncalo Amaral is making a laughing stock of The Supreme Court who so bravely supported his right to Free Speach against the rights to a reputation of a couple of foreigners.
Nothing all that difficult to understand there.  But did they seriously think that he would shut up?  Or would he come up with even more outlandish "Theories", so bizarre to beggar belief?  Very silly of them if they did.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #234 on: May 29, 2017, 05:11:52 PM »
Is that the best example you can come up with, something which Amaral never even stated in the video.  Are you just criticising for the sake of it as you obviously haven't viewed the full video?

ive already posted several..read the thread...how abut the dog maked corpse odour on cuddle cat stated as fact

amaral has stated the 200 claim in another video...ad it was repeated here


Offline Angelo222

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #235 on: May 29, 2017, 05:12:49 PM »

Indeed.
One wonders what his next ridiculous theory will be. (imo)

Once it has been established what happened to Maddie and Amaral has been shown to be wrong then you can call his theses ridiculous but until that time his opinion based on his expert knowledge are as valid as anyone elses.  In fact, his opinion has a higher value as he was there, he saw the twists and turns, the changed statements, the invented claims and the excuses.
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Offline misty

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #236 on: May 29, 2017, 05:13:51 PM »
https://youtu.be/tUHp85TyJ0Y?t=1053

Amaral states that Jane Tanner was in outside her apartment smoking a cigarette as Jez was returning home therefore could not possibly have seen Tannerman in the way she said.

Offline Angelo222

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #237 on: May 29, 2017, 05:21:27 PM »
ive already posted several..read the thread...how abut the dog maked corpse odour on cuddle cat stated as fact

amaral has stated the 200 claim in another video...ad it was repeated here

He is right to claim a hit on the 'teddy bear' otherwise known as cuddlecat because Grime himself stated that Eddie alerted to the toy.  A dog which is trained to find cadaver odour alerts to a missing childs soft toy, clothing, in apartment 5a, outside beneath the balcony and to the child's parent's hire car.  Are you really asking everyone to believe every single one of these alerts was just a coincidence.
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Offline misty

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #238 on: May 29, 2017, 05:22:58 PM »
https://youtu.be/tUHp85TyJ0Y?t=1131


Amaral changing the direction of Tannerman based on where he says JT was standing, then placing the suspect at the place of the Smith family sighting (thus clearing Murat).

Offline Erngath

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #239 on: May 29, 2017, 05:24:09 PM »
Once it has been established what happened to Maddie and Amaral has been shown to be wrong then you can call his theses ridiculous but until that time his opinion based on his expert knowledge are as valid as anyone else's.

I suppose the same argument could be used by flat earth supporters.
They are still waiting for proof that the world is not flat.
If you choose to believe there is any credibility in the coffin theory, fine by me.
I choose to call his theories ridiculous free speech and all that!!

Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.