CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles

[ferryman]

Blair, Brown at the start.

Cameron and May, subsequently.

Now find me an example of where 4 P.M.'s have been involved in a case which took place in another country.

Spanning a decade?

[misty]

There was clear interference in this case from the UK.

The UK provided Amaral with the cadaver dogs - did he class that as interference?
IMO if the UK had been protecting the McCanns the powers-that-be would have whisked the family out of Portugal as soon as they could. That didn't happen.

[stephen25000]

Spanning a decade?

I didn't say that, did I.

Now try to provide any other case where 4 different P.M.'s have been involved with U.K. citizens, in a case which took place overseas.

[ferryman]

The UK provided Amaral with the cadaver dogs - did he class that as interference?

He should have!


IMO if the UK had been protecting the McCanns the powers-that-be would have whisked the family out of Portugal as soon as they could. That didn't happen.

But otherwise, yes!

Good point.

[stephen25000]

The UK provided Amaral with the cadaver dogs - did he class that as interference?
IMO if the UK had been protecting the McCanns the powers-that-be would have whisked the family out of Portugal as soon as they could. That didn't happen.

As you know, initially, the UK Police advised the P.J. to investigate the McCann's, with the lack of evidence of abduction.

Note the word advise.

That became revised to abduction, and not a jot of evidence to support it.

It still remains the case, that no evidence has been found of a third party in the apartment that night.

[John]

There was clear interference in this case from the UK.

Absolutely, I have experienced so-called consular assistance in Spain in 2003 and it can in no way be compared to what occurred in Praia da Luz in 2007.  The British police were told to shadow the McCanns and be there every time they had contact with the PJ.  It isn't rocket science to work out why,

[Mr Gray]

As you know, initially, the UK Police advised the P.J. to investigate the McCann's, with the lack of evidence of abduction.

Note the word advise.

That became revised to abduction, and not a jot of evidence to support it.

It still remains the case, that no evidence has been found of a third party in the apartment that night.

absolute rollox as you like to say.....the UK police advised that the mccanns should be investigated..this is normal practice...your statement taht it was because of a lack of evidence of abduction is a complete fallacy

[Mr Gray]

Absolutely, I have experienced so-called consular assistance in Spain in 2003 and it can in no way be compared to what occurred in Praia da Luz in 2007.  The British police were told to shadow the McCanns and be there every time they had contact with the PJ.  It isn't rocket science to work out why,

tell us why...it may well be as you know ...because of how the police on the iberian peninsula treat their suspects...whats your reason

[stephen25000]

absolute rollox as you like to say.....the UK police advised that the mccanns should be investigated..this is normal practice...your statement taht it was because of a lack of evidence of abduction is a complete fallacy

You have been asked many times to show/provide evidence of abduction.

You have failed.

As to UK interference in the case, no doubt about it.

[John]

absolute rollox as you like to say.....the UK police advised that the mccanns should be investigated..this is normal practice...your statement taht it was because of a lack of evidence of abduction is a complete fallacy

I agree with Stephen, there were too many unanswered questions in the investigation and a complete failure to find any tangible proof of an abduction so attention naturally moved to the parents.  Amaral admits that this should have happened much earlier so if mistakes were made this was one of them.

[Mr Gray]

I didn't say that, did I.

Now try to provide any other case where 4 different P.M.'s have been involved with U.K. citizens, in a case which took place overseas.

how many british children disappear in these circumstances abroad...ben and Maddie and thats about it

[Mr Gray]

I agree with Stephen, there were too many unanswered questions in the investigation and a failure to find any tangible proof of an abduction so attention naturally moved to the parents.

you can agree but if you cannot state as fact that the uk police told the pj to investigate the mccanns because of lackk of evidence of abduction...that is an opinion and speculation but not a fact as stephen claimed
#remember the rules re posting opion as fact

[stephen25000]

how many british children disappear in these circumstances abroad...ben and Maddie and thats about it

Cameron got  involved after public pressure, before he resigned.

Now let's have some cases of UK citizens abroad who have received assistance from Prime Ministers.

[John]

how many british children disappear in these circumstances abroad...ben and Maddie and thats about it

And yet Ben's parents haven't received anything like the £11 million spent investigating Madeleine's disappearance.  Why the difference do you think?

[Eleanor]

Absolutely, I have experienced so-called consular assistance in Spain in 2003 and it can in no way be compared to what occurred in Praia da Luz in 2007.  The British police were told to shadow the McCanns and be there every time they had contact with the PJ.  It isn't rocket science to work out why,

Because The UK Government weren't having Kate McCann falling down some Police Station stairs.  In My Opinion, since I can't possible know.