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Offline Lace

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #555 on: June 12, 2017, 09:17:20 AM »
So what traces of Pig D.N.A. were found ? 8)-)))

I would question whether any cadaver odour was detected.

Full article here if you want to argue with experts -http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/cadaver-dogs-science-training-1.3654993




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Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #556 on: June 12, 2017, 09:19:29 AM »
I used to think that was the case, but it appears that it is a myth:

He has additionally trained exclusively using
human remains in the U.S.A. in association with the F.B.I. The enhanced
training of the dog has also involved the use of collection of 'cadaver scent'
odor from human corpses using remote technical equipment which does not
contact the subject.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES.htm

Eddie was initially trained using decomposing pig.

stephen25000

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Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #557 on: June 12, 2017, 09:22:37 AM »
I would question whether any cadaver odour was detected.

Full article here if you want to argue with experts -http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/cadaver-dogs-science-training-1.3654993

Can you explain why the dogs only gave alerts to materials belonging to the McCann's ?

Can you also explain why dogs of this type are used worldwide by police forces in forensic searches ?

Can you also explain why OG utilized forensic dogs when they undertook searches in Portugal ?


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Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #558 on: June 12, 2017, 09:23:13 AM »
The cadaver dog found nothing

You know this because? after all dogs don't talk.
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Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #559 on: June 12, 2017, 09:25:03 AM »
Can you explain why the dogs only gave alerts to materials belonging to the McCann's ?

Can you also explain why dogs of this type are used worldwide by police forces in forensic searches ?

Can you also explain why OG utilized forensic dogs when they undertook searches in Portugal ?

Its all been explained
Dogs initially did not alert until being repeatedly brought back
Dogs are used worldwide to find evidence
They were looking for evidence

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Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #560 on: June 12, 2017, 09:25:18 AM »
Eddie was initially trained using decomposing pig.

Then went on to being trained with human remains,not called "Enhanced victim Recovery dog" for nothing.
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stephen25000

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Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #561 on: June 12, 2017, 09:26:19 AM »
Its all been explained
Dogs initially did not alert until being repeatedly brought back
Dogs are used worldwide to find evidence
They were looking for evidence

What experience do you have in the deployment and or direct observation of forensic dogs in operation ?

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Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #562 on: June 12, 2017, 09:45:15 AM »
Then went on to being trained with human remains,not called "Enhanced victim Recovery dog" for nothing.

Oh yes,   the 'enhanced' Grime said Eddie couldn't tell the difference between pig and human.

It is much more likely that Eddie alerted to blood from a living person,  from something that had blood on it and was removed,  but the aroma was still there.

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« Reply #563 on: June 12, 2017, 09:51:03 AM »
Oh yes,   the 'enhanced' Grime said Eddie couldn't tell the difference between pig and human.

It is much more likely that Eddie alerted to blood from a living person,  from something that had blood on it and was removed,  but the aroma was still there.

Well whether its liked or not,in the videos of the dogs working in 5a and elsewhere,they we are told alerted,being trained in particular disciplines you have to wonder what they alerted to if not the discipline they were trained for.
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Offline Lace

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« Reply #564 on: June 12, 2017, 09:52:13 AM »
Eddie could have been alerting to anything that once had blood on it and removed.   Unfortunately other families stayed in 5a after the McCann's.

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« Reply #565 on: June 12, 2017, 09:53:34 AM »
Well whether its liked or not,in the videos of the dogs working in 5a and elsewhere,they we are told alerted,being trained in particular disciplines you have to wonder what they alerted to if not the discipline they were trained for.

Blood

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« Reply #566 on: June 12, 2017, 09:55:16 AM »
Blood

Opinion or fact,if fact cite please pertaining to all things to do with the McCann case.
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Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #567 on: June 12, 2017, 09:56:58 AM »
We know Eddie alerts to blood from living people,   he alerted to the key fob which had Gerry's blood on it,  he alerted to the speck under the tiles that Keela alerted to,  IMO he alerted to the scent of blood from a living person which had been on something but removed.

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Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #568 on: June 12, 2017, 09:58:00 AM »
We know Eddie alerts to blood from living people,   he alerted to the key fob which had Gerry's blood on it,  he alerted to the speck under the tiles that Keela alerted to,  IMO he alerted to the scent of blood from a living person which had been on something but removed.

IYO.

Exactly.

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Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #569 on: June 12, 2017, 09:58:28 AM »
We know Eddie alerts to blood from living people,   he alerted to the key fob which had Gerry's blood on it,  he alerted to the speck under the tiles that Keela alerted to,  IMO he alerted to the scent of blood from a living person which had been on something but removed.

In the area of the wardrobe?
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