CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles

[stephen25000]

What is it the sceptics think Amaral can achieve by continually promoting so much nonsense? Quite clearly there would be absolutely no way the McCanns could ever be prosecuted in Portugal due to the excessive media output, scuppering any chance of a fair trial. What motive can he possibly have, other than making money & sticking the knife into all those who have suffered as a result of Madeleine's "fate unknown"?

That is one key point.

No matter the bluster, the crime remains undetermined.

[stephen25000]

What is it that supporters think they achieve by continually slagging Amaral off ?

In reality, two letters from the alphabet.

[ShiningInLuz]

Portugal is full of decent people
But they have been fed false information
See the above video for proof

I remember asking for a sub-forum in Portuguese, so that we could get Portuguese people on board.  I did not realise at the time that most Portuguese people speak high-quality English, so that venture was not necessary.

The stats for my blog show Portugal as one of the highest readerships, so there are people in this country who are interested in the case, but not very many.  I have never seen any stats for this forum, but I would predict the same pattern.

You may be making a fundamental error in your analysis.  Of the 4 media experts I met around the 10th anniversary, the issue I had was in simplifying things down to the basics.  They do not spend hours immersing themselves in the details of the case.  That is not their job.  They are there to make sellable product.

I also dealt with Panorama, and that was different.  They credited 2 researchers, one of whom has been associated with the case for many years.

I doubt very much that the great British public contains more than a few people who are well-educated on Madeleine.  And I would be surprised if they were nearly all McCann supporters.  But decency does not come into it.

[Mr Gray]

I remember asking for a sub-forum in Portuguese, so that we could get Portuguese people on board.  I did not realise at the time that most Portuguese people speak high-quality English, so that venture was not necessary.

The stats for my blog show Portugal as one of the highest readerships, so there are people in this country who are interested in the case, but not very many.  I have never seen any stats for this forum, but I would predict the same pattern.

You may be making a fundamental error in your analysis.  Of the 4 media experts I met around the 10th anniversary, the issue I had was in simplifying things down to the basics.  They do not spend hours immersing themselves in the details of the case.  That is not their job.  They are there to make sellable product.

I also dealt with Panorama, and that was different.  They credited 2 researchers, one of whom has been associated with the case for many years.

I doubt very much that the great British public contains more than a few people who are well-educated on Madeleine.  And I would be surprised if they were nearly all McCann supporters.  But decency does not come into it.

False information

Amaral claims the dogs signalled cadaver odour   ... That is not confirmed...... False information

[John]

Amaral has expressed opinions as to what happened to Madeleine based on his own knowledge and experience of being directly involved in the case from day one until his unceremonial removal. Nobody was closer to the case for those five months than he was which has to account for something regardless of ones views.  He might be right or he might be completely wrong, only time will tell.

[John]

False information

Amaral claims the dogs signalled cadaver odour   ... That is not confirmed...... False information

Maybe he was misinterpreted.  The experts agree that the dogs alerts were certainly suggestive of there having been cadaver odour in the apartment.

[John]

1 The archiving report clears the McCanns of nothing other than negligence wrt to child minding.

2 Pedro do Carmo said all options were being considered in the Oporto investigation.

3 SY said they had not looked at the parents as the original investigation had cleared them.  The Supreme Court explained that this was not correct.

Looks like SY have a big problem then!

[Mr Gray]

Maybe he was misinterpreted. The experts agree that the dogs alerts were certainly suggestive of there having been cadaver odour in the apartment.

Harrison said no inference could be drawn from the alerts
Amaral has not been misinterpreted... He has spoken live on tv

[Mr Gray]

Amaral has expressed opinions as to what happened to Madeleine based on his own knowledge and experience of being directly involved in the case from day one until his unceremonial removal. Nobody was closer to the case for those five months than he was which has to account for something regardless of ones views.  He might be right or he might be completely wrong, only time will tell.

Amaral is claiming he is right
That's the problem
He doesnt say there may have been a cadaver in 5a
He says it has been shown there was one
That is totally false information

[Mr Gray]

I think Grime also used the term
What he didn't say was how suggestive they were
Harrison stated clearly no inference could be drawn from the alerts yet Amaral does
I'm stating facts not opinion

[misty]

The experts said that the dog indicated to what he was trained to alert to, which, in Eddie's case, was more than pure cadaver scent. Just because the dog alerts it doesn't follow that a cadaver was there, it could be as a result of contaminated item having been brought into the apartment at another point in time.

[John]

Most certainly it can be posted as fact and I have done so numerous times on this board.

You won't find the posts, though, because they are removed as fast as I type them.

Mark Harrison concluded his third, and final, report by admitting frankly that he had no idea what happened to Madeleine, but tentatively suggesting that if Madeleine is dead, he considers it most likely her remains were disposed of into the sea.

Which, of course, is why Amaral distorts, in his book, that Harrison directed a search for Madeleine's 'concealed and deceased remains' in the surrounding area.

But then we've been through all this, countless times.

There were never were two FSS reports (as claimed by Amaral).

And so on ....

Amaral never claimed there were two actual Reports, the preliminary results would have been passed to him and the PJ informally.  If I recall, Martin Brunt certainly believed them sufficiently to go live on air and broadcast it?

[G-Unit]

What is it the sceptics think Amaral can achieve by continually promoting so much nonsense? Quite clearly there would be absolutely no way the McCanns could ever be prosecuted in Portugal due to the excessive media output, scuppering any chance of a fair trial. What motive can he possibly have, other than making money & sticking the knife into all those who have suffered as a result of Madeleine's "fate unknown"?

I have never wondered what (if anything) Amaral is hoping to achieve. He wrote his book to explain his part in the investigation and he achieved his objective. He speaks on the subject when asked. like a lot of others do. The fact that the McCanns (and you) don't like him doing so is no concern of his; why should it be? If it's just nonsense I'm surprised people waste their time getting upset about it. It's a bit like when the media demonise people, it makes people wonder why.

[ferryman]

Amaral never claimed there were two actual Reports, the preliminary results would have been passed to him and the PJ informally.  If I recall, Martin Brunt certainly believed them sufficiently to go live on air and broadcast it?

There were no 'preliminary results'.

A clip without a date.

Martin Brunt would not repeat any of that stuff today.

[John]

There were no 'preliminary results'.

So are you disputing what Brunty claimed because what he was reading was NOT from the official FSS Report?

ie what he was reading were 'preliminary results'.