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Offline G-Unit

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #1080 on: September 16, 2017, 07:43:26 PM »
No. The photograph of the man shown as Crecheman was the innocent holidaymaker carrying his daughter. He had placed himself & his family in the area at the time (note, not actually crossing the junction in the manner JT witnessed). Listen to the video regarding the clothing https://youtu.be/OZ8jmdWlB8Y?t=1330  "dressed in the kind of clothing he wore on holiday".....not specific to the night of the 3rd. "Uncannily similar pyjamas", not almpst identical. The bare feet weren't mentioned.

You are saying Crecheman walked from east to west on his way to block 4 before Jane arrived on the scene and it wasn't him that she saw.

He, however, saw a person hanging around and he gave OG a good description.

The next step is to look for the person seen by Crecheman and possibly by JT, surely? Issuing new e-fits based on the new description perhaps?

OG did the exact opposite. Instead of renewing their efforts to identify Tannerman, they go to great lengths to try to make the public believe they have eliminated him. That is totally illogical in my opinion.

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Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #1081 on: September 16, 2017, 08:06:41 PM »
You are saying Crecheman walked from east to west on his way to block 4 before Jane arrived on the scene and it wasn't him that she saw.

He, however, saw a person hanging around and he gave OG a good description.

The next step is to look for the person seen by Crecheman and possibly by JT, surely? Issuing new e-fits based on the new description perhaps?

OG did the exact opposite. Instead of renewing their efforts to identify Tannerman, they go to great lengths to try to make the public believe they have eliminated him. That is totally illogical in my opinion.

Glad I'm not the only one to think that.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

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Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #1082 on: September 16, 2017, 09:11:40 PM »
Glad I'm not the only one to think that.

 8((()*/

Now I'm wondering why OG made such a song and dance about the Smithman e-fits. They had had them for ages and done nothing with them. Why did they suddenly decide to publicise them and eliminate Tannerman? Why did they change the time of the 'abduction', which definitely finished off Tannerman? Did they want people to concentrate on Smithman or to stop looking at Tannerman?

I looked what was being said in 2013. The UK media was calling on the Portuguese to reopen their investigation but to no avail. They did reopen it, however, after the Crimewatch programme was shown. That makes me wonder if the two events were connected.
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Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #1083 on: September 16, 2017, 09:15:18 PM »
8((()*/

Now I'm wondering why OG made such a song and dance about the Smithman e-fits. They had had them for ages and done nothing with them. Why did they suddenly decide to publicise them and eliminate Tannerman? Why did they change the time of the 'abduction', which definitely finished off Tannerman? Did they want people to concentrate on Smithman or to stop looking at Tannerman?

I looked what was being said in 2013. The UK media was calling on the Portuguese to reopen their investigation but to no avail. They did reopen it, however, after the Crimewatch programme was shown. That makes me wonder if the two events were connected.

Did SY actually change the time of the abduction or did they just move the clock forward?

Offline faithlilly

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #1084 on: September 16, 2017, 09:29:30 PM »
There is possibility that Crecheman was able to positively ID whoever he saw so there would be no need to issue another efit. As I said before, it's just a theory which, to me, fits.

So if Crecheman could ID Tannerman why show a photo of Crecheman and why wasn't Tannerman made an arguido in 2013 ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline misty

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #1085 on: September 16, 2017, 09:35:57 PM »
Do you mean he would know him if he saw him again or that he knew who he was?

Could have been either. He may have been asked to do an e-fit which was only shared with the new PJ team.

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Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #1086 on: September 16, 2017, 09:42:16 PM »
Did SY actually change the time of the abduction or did they just move the clock forward?

I, like many others, got the impression that they moved the time of the 'abduction'.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/10378303/Madeleine-McCann-New-reconstruction-reveals-abduction-was-later-than-previously-thought.html
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Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #1087 on: September 16, 2017, 09:43:07 PM »
Could have been either. He may have been asked to do an e-fit which was only shared with the new PJ team.

Then why didn't the PJ act on it and make him an arguido ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline misty

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #1088 on: September 16, 2017, 09:48:47 PM »
So if Crecheman could ID Tannerman why show a photo of Crecheman and why wasn't Tannerman made an arguido in 2013 ?

Possibly to make people believe that Tannerman was Crecheman, as they have done for 4 years, while the Met/PJ were able to discreetly follow that particular lead, which must have been difficult given the lack of tangible forensics. It would have been foolish just to pull him in back in 2013. IMO.

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Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #1089 on: September 16, 2017, 09:50:49 PM »
Could have been either. He may have been asked to do an e-fit which was only shared with the new PJ team.

As you say, just a theory which is becoming more and more unlikely. I can't imagine why the police would want to suggest that they had found the man seen by JT if what they had actually found was a key witness who had not been seen by JT.
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #1091 on: September 16, 2017, 10:00:31 PM »
Can we stop these flights of fancy. Too many posts with no supporting information.
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Offline faithlilly

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #1092 on: September 16, 2017, 10:19:15 PM »
Possibly to make people believe that Tannerman was Crecheman, as they have done for 4 years, while the Met/PJ were able to discreetly follow that particular lead, which must have been difficult given the lack of tangible forensics. It would have been foolish just to pull him in back in 2013. IMO.

Why introduce Crecheman at all then ? Why not just leave things as they'd been for 4 years ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?


Offline misty

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #1094 on: September 16, 2017, 10:40:23 PM »
Why introduce Crecheman at all then ? Why not just leave things as they'd been for 4 years ?

Why? Because the Met needed to show the public a valid reason, without compromising the investigation, for the shift of focus, rather than just saying that they were no longer looking for Tannerman because he had actually been identified as MR AA. All attention could then be diverted to the similarly dressed Smithman.

IMO.