Was Mark Rowley wrong to claim that Madeleine McCann was abducted?

[stephen25000]

It is not a game.  You are a moderator and should endeavour to be neutral.  In my opinion all signatures should fall under the caveats which the forum has agreed.  Opinion should be stated as opinion.

Well, in that case remove the word 'abduction' from your signature.

Or there is a more simple solution.

No signatures by any posters.

I will ask John about this.

[barrier]

never said any of that....best read the thread first

stephen said SY have no poswer of arrest...hes wrong...they do
whether they would ever have to use them is a totally different point


in the unlikely event that portugal refused to arrest a suspect and SY had sufficient grounds ...SY could issue an EAW which means portugal would not have the final say

From Here.http://ec.europa.eu/justice/criminal/recognition-decision/european-arrest-warrant/index_en.htm

The European Arrest Warrant (EAW), applied throughout the EU, replaced lengthy extradition procedures within the EU's territorial jurisdiction. It improves and simplifies judicial procedures designed to surrender people for the purpose of conducting a criminal prosecution or executing a custodial sentence or spell in detention.

[Miss Taken Identity]

never said any of that....best read the thread first

stephen said SY have no poswer of arrest...hes wrong...they do
whether they would ever have to use them is a totally different point


in the unlikely event that portugal refused to arrest a suspect and SY had sufficient grounds ...SY could issue an EAW which means portugal would not have the final say

I have read the thread, you are clearly confused or trying to sell a camel at a car show.

SY do not have any duristriction regarding the Maddie case- they cannot arrest anyone they think may have done something. Also to get an arrest warrant they have to present a case... and guess what- they don't have one in this instance.

Now on other matters regarding arresting UK citizens who commit sex crimes against children , they can arrest, with the indigenous police force in the country. As an example;  sex gangs operating in EU, and the also arrest on landing, anyone who has been investigated abroad about such crimes and charge in this country. Gary Glitter is one promenant case.

[Mr Gray]

From Here.http://ec.europa.eu/justice/criminal/recognition-decision/european-arrest-warrant/index_en.htm

so Im right...and alice has agreed

[stephen25000]

We all have to follow the forum rules.

If you don't like that Sadie, take it up with Admin or John.

[Mr Gray]

I have read the thread, you are clearly confused or trying to sell a camel at a car show.

SY do not have any duristriction regarding the Maddie case- they cannot arrest anyone they think may have done something. Also to get an arrest warrant they have to present a case... and guess what- they don't have one in this instance.

Now on other matters regarding arresting UK citizens who commit sex crimes against children , they can arrest, with the indigenous police force in the country. As an example;  sex gangs operating in EU, and the also arrest on landing, anyone who has been investigated abroad about such crimes and charge in this country. Gary Glitter is one promenant case.

im not at all confused...unlike some on this forum....Sy could issue a EAW which portugal would hav to comply with if they had sufficient grounds...and it isnt just for sex crimes...raed the cite

[Brietta]

Sorry people ... my bad ... I spoke out of turn I should have PM'd Stephen instead of criticising him on the thread.

Please may we return to the thread topic ... Was Mark Rowley wrong to claim that Madeleine McCann was abducted?

Thank you

[barrier]

im not at all confused...unlike some on this forum....Sy could issue a EAW which portugal would hav to comply with if they had sufficient grounds...and it isnt just for sex crimes...raed the cite

But why would they?

[Mr Gray]

But why would they?

that is another question and further off topic...the fact is they could and stephen was wrong

[Brietta]

im not at all confused...unlike some on this forum....Sy could issue a EAW which portugal would hav to comply with if they had sufficient grounds...and it isnt just for sex crimes...raed the cite

Let's put it this way ... if the Portuguese wished to arrest or even question a British subject ... do they just jump on the next flight and do the business?  I do not think so.

British police have jurisdiction in Britain.

Portuguese police have jurisdiction in Portugal.  Each require to go through formal legal channels if they wish to extradite anyone or even question anyone.

I think this line of discussion is way off topic on this thread.

[Mr Gray]

Let's put it this way ... if the Portuguese wished to arrest or even question a British subject ... do they just jump on the next flight and do the business?  I do not think so.

British police have jurisdiction in Britain.

Portuguese police have jurisdiction in Portugal.  Each require to go through formal legal channels if they wish to extradite anyone or even question anyone.

I think this line of discussion is way off topic on this thread.

of course they have to go through proper legal channels....but they would have the power to force the arrest of a portuguese subject in the right circumstances...the uk has jurisdiction in portugal in certain circumstances

[stephen25000]

Let's put it this way ... if the Portuguese wished to arrest or even question a British subject ... do they just jump on the next flight and do the business?  I do not think so.

British police have jurisdiction in Britain.

Portuguese police have jurisdiction in Portugal.  Each require to go through formal legal channels if they wish to extradite anyone or even question anyone.

I think this line of discussion is way off topic on this thread.

Well that Brietta is the second time we have agreed on a point.

[G-Unit]

the trial would be in the UK

An EAW can only be executed if the offence took place in the state requesting the arrest. So;

Offence committed in Portugal - no EAW by UK
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Arrest_Warrant

[Mr Gray]

An EAW can only be executed if the offence took place in the state requesting the arrest. So;

Offence committed in Portugal - no EAW by UK
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Arrest_Warrant

could you copy and paste as i dont see what you are referring to...in the case of the 3 crimes mentioned the UK would have jursdiction in portugal

[barrier]

Let's put it this way ... if the Portuguese wished to arrest or even question a British subject ... do they just jump on the next flight and do the business?  I do not think so.

British police have jurisdiction in Britain.

Portuguese police have jurisdiction in Portugal.  Each require to go through formal legal channels if they wish to extradite anyone or even question anyone.

I think this line of discussion is way off topic on this thread.

That would be why ILOR's were sent to be able to  speak to the last 4 arguidos.