There were nets that wooshed and drapes on the window

[Robittybob1]

For those who don't believe that the kid's bedroom had drapes and nets on the windows have a look at this video of Eddie going through that room.
https://youtu.be/c4NMYPsFKb8
but in particular the scene at https://youtu.be/c4NMYPsFKb8?t=1336 Play it at the slowest speed.


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[misty]

Net curtain in children's room as per CSI photos

[Robittybob1]

The net curtains being light would not take too much breeze to make them woosh.   For a long time it hasn't been appreciated that there were net curtains involved.  This has been the result of the photo on file where no net curtains are visible at all. 

Would the police photographer have pushed the net curtains so that the state of the window and shutters are visible?

[G-Unit]

The net curtains being light would not take too much breeze to make them woosh.   For a long time it hasn't been appreciated that there were net curtains involved.  This has been the result of the photo on file where no net curtains are visible at all. 

Would the police photographer have pushed the net curtains so that the state of the window and shutters are visible?

I assume that when the family arrived the shutters and curtains were open. The nets were probably closed for privacy. They closed the shutters and curtains and the closed curtains flew up on 3rd. Kate is quite clear in her book.

I very much doubt that the police photographer moved anything. His job was to record the scene as the police found it, not to rearrange it. If the curtains and nets were opened it wasn't by him imo.

On our arrival we had lowered the blind-style shutters on the outside of the windows, which were controlled from
the inside, and closed the curtains. We left them that way all week.....

As I ran back into the children’s room the closed curtains flew up in a gust of wind. My heart lurched as I saw now that, behind them, the window was wide open and the shutters on the outside raised all the way up. [Madeleine]

[Benice]

I assume that when the family arrived the shutters and curtains were open. The nets were probably closed for privacy. They closed the shutters and curtains and the closed curtains flew up on 3rd. Kate is quite clear in her book.

I very much doubt that the police photographer moved anything. His job was to record the scene as the police found it, not to rearrange it. If the curtains and nets were opened it wasn't by him imo.

On our arrival we had lowered the blind-style shutters on the outside of the windows, which were controlled from
the inside, and closed the curtains. We left them that way all week.....

As I ran back into the children’s room the closed curtains flew up in a gust of wind. My heart lurched as I saw now that, behind them, the window was wide open and the shutters on the outside raised all the way up. [Madeleine]

The photographers may not have moved anything -  but the people (including the police) who searched through 5a before they arrived could most certainly have moved things during  their searches.   For instance the curtain shown trapped behind a chair in Madeleine's bedroom may well have been hanging loosely behind it - and then got trapped when someone moved the chair either by accident or design to test opening the shutters from inside 5a.   Or even by Kate when she leaned forward to look out of the open window.   IIRC the space between the end of the bed and the chair was quite limited.

 The same can be said about the settee in the lounge under the window.  That may have been moved forward to search behind it - but was then pushed back further than it was before searching commenced.

AIMHO

[Eleanor]

All just minor details.  But it all sounds perfectly logical to me.  Someone other than The McCanns opened the window and the shutters.
I simply don't understand why anyone would think that Kate McCann made this up.

If The McCanns wanted to stage an abduction then all they had to do was to pretend that Madeleine had been abducted during the night when they were all asleep.
This isn't even rocket science.

[Robittybob1]

I assume that when the family arrived the shutters and curtains were open. The nets were probably closed for privacy. They closed the shutters and curtains and the closed curtains flew up on 3rd. Kate is quite clear in her book.

I very much doubt that the police photographer moved anything. His job was to record the scene as the police found it, not to rearrange it. If the curtains and nets were opened it wasn't by him imo.

On our arrival we had lowered the blind-style shutters on the outside of the windows, which were controlled from
the inside, and closed the curtains. We left them that way all week.....

As I ran back into the children’s room the closed curtains flew up in a gust of wind. My heart lurched as I saw now that, behind them, the window was wide open and the shutters on the outside raised all the way up. [Madeleine]

That photo shows the nets showing, the window pane is removed and on the floor and the long drapes have been moved. 

[Benice]

All just minor details.  But it all sounds perfectly logical to me.  Someone other than The McCanns opened the window and the shutters.
I simply don't understand why anyone would think that Kate McCann made this up.

If The McCanns wanted to stage an abduction then all they had to do was to pretend that Madeleine had been abducted during the night when they were all asleep.
This isn't even rocket science.

I couldn't agree more Eleanor, and who in their right mind would devise a plan which was designed to start at the end of the day when everyone was tired out after being up and about  for around 15 hours.

They would all have to be as thick as two planks to go along with such a dicey plan - when such a simple alternative was staring them in the face.

The very idea that 7 normal, sane, ordinary people would ever agree to be involved in a plan to cover up the death and disposal of a child in the first place is nonsense AFAIAC.

IMO

[Eleanor]

I couldn't agree more Eleanor, and who in their right mind would devise a plan which was designed to start at the end of the day when everyone was tired out after being up and about  for around 15 hours.

They would all have to be as thick as two planks to go along with such a dicey plan - when such a simple alternative was staring them in the face.

The very idea that 7 normal, sane, ordinary people would ever agree to be involved in a plan to cover up the death and disposal of a child in the first place is nonsense AFAIAC.

IMO

This particular little world has all gone mad, Benice.  The logic of truth is as plain as day.  Madeleine was abducted.  And not just in my opinion.

[G-Unit]

All just minor details.  But it all sounds perfectly logical to me.  Someone other than The McCanns opened the window and the shutters.
I simply don't understand why anyone would think that Kate McCann made this up.

If The McCanns wanted to stage an abduction then all they had to do was to pretend that Madeleine had been abducted during the night when they were all asleep.
This isn't even rocket science.

How do the scenarios differ? In one the parents are not there, they are elsewhere with alibis. In the other they are present with no alibis.

[Robittybob1]

we are looking at something even more simpler who moved the nets?  Kate says the curtains were closed yet they are photographed open and the nets are fully hidden behind the drapes.  Who hid the nets behind the drapes?

[Eleanor]

How do the scenarios differ? In one the parents are not there, they are elsewhere with alibis. In the other they are present with no alibis.

In one scenario the parents can be blamed for leaving the children.  In the other they cannot.

PS.  Children have been abducted while their parents were asleep.  Many times, as it happens.

[John]

In one scenario the parents can be blamed for leaving the children.  In the other they cannot.

PS.  Children have been abducted while their parents were asleep.  Many times, as it happens.

Leaving three children under four years-of-age alone in an unlocked apartment was the epitome of stupidity.  As stated previously, some people leave their common sense at passport control when they go abroad.

[Eleanor]

Leaving three children under four years-of-age alone in an unlocked apartment was the epitome of stupidity.  As stated previously, some people leave their common sense at passport control when they go abroad.

It might not have been very sensible, but hardly the best scenario to fake an abduction.

[G-Unit]

we are looking at something even more simpler who moved the nets?  Kate says the curtains were closed yet they are photographed open and the nets are fully hidden behind the drapes.  Who hid the nets behind the drapes?

As the nets have never been mentioned as far as I know the answer is;

We don't know who opened the curtains or the nets. What we do know is what Gerry said on 10th May;

When he arrived at the bedroom he first noticed that the door was completely open, the window was also open on one side, the external blinds almost fully raised, the curtains drawn back, MADELEINE'S bed was empty but the twins continued sleeping in their cribs. He clarifies that according to what KATE told him, that was the scene that she found when she entered the apartment.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GERRY-MCCANN-10MAY.htm