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stephen25000

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Re: There were nets that wooshed and drapes on the window
« Reply #75 on: June 17, 2017, 11:55:45 AM »
SY consider the McCanns are not suspects
That's all that matters



Which members of SY  ?

Offline John

Re: There were nets that wooshed and drapes on the window
« Reply #76 on: June 17, 2017, 12:03:15 PM »
SY consider the McCanns are not suspects
That's all that matters

Suspect of what exactly?
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: There were nets that wooshed and drapes on the window
« Reply #77 on: June 17, 2017, 12:10:07 PM »
Suspect of what exactly?

Not suspects in the disappearance of Maddie as SY consider Maddie was abducted

stephen25000

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Re: There were nets that wooshed and drapes on the window
« Reply #78 on: June 17, 2017, 12:11:44 PM »
Not suspects in the disappearance of Maddie as SY consider Maddie was abducted

Ah yes, the entity whose existence has not been proved.

Offline jassi

Re: There were nets that wooshed and drapes on the window
« Reply #79 on: June 17, 2017, 12:13:07 PM »
Ah yes, the entity whose existence has not been proved.

But McCanns are not suspects so everything is OK
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Mr Gray

Re: There were nets that wooshed and drapes on the window
« Reply #80 on: June 17, 2017, 12:14:47 PM »
...and what have these police 'who matter' achieved ?

We don't know
But at least the poor parents have been ruled out

stephen25000

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Re: There were nets that wooshed and drapes on the window
« Reply #81 on: June 17, 2017, 12:18:49 PM »
We don't know
But at least the poor parents have been ruled out

It is the 'poor parents' whose actions instigated this case .

No one else davel, and no one else has been found  to have been there, other than the known people.

Offline G-Unit

Re: There were nets that wooshed and drapes on the window
« Reply #82 on: June 17, 2017, 12:22:03 PM »
Ah yes, the entity whose existence has not been proved.

As Rowley admitted;

"we don’t have definitive evidence about what happened to Madeleine."

Not to worry though;

"Until we get to the point where we have solved it, we’re unlikely to have definitive evidence as to exactly what happened at the time."

Even so, he says he does know what happened to Madeleine;

"However she left that apartment, she has been abducted."

So they know she's been abducted, despite having no evidence of what happened to her. Clever these Met police aren't they?
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stephen25000

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Re: There were nets that wooshed and drapes on the window
« Reply #83 on: June 17, 2017, 12:24:52 PM »
As Rowley admitted;

"we don’t have definitive evidence about what happened to Madeleine."

Not to worry though;

"Until we get to the point where we have solved it, we’re unlikely to have definitive evidence as to exactly what happened at the time."

Even so, he says he does know what happened to Madeleine;

"However she left that apartment, she has been abducted."

So they know she's been abducted, despite having no evidence of what happened to her. Clever these Met police aren't they?

Indeed G-Unit.

They claim to know what happened, but don't know what happened.

Very inciteful.

Offline Erngath

Re: There were nets that wooshed and drapes on the window
« Reply #84 on: June 17, 2017, 12:28:02 PM »
Indeed G-Unit.

They claim to know what happened, but don't know what happened.

Very inciteful.

Perhaps they know what didn't happen.
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline Benice

Re: There were nets that wooshed and drapes on the window
« Reply #85 on: June 17, 2017, 12:41:18 PM »
The McCann's made the same 'mistake' for every night they were there until and including the night Madeleine 'disappeared'.

It wasn't a one off.

It was a deliberate action, because they thought they knew better.

The McCanns made one mistake and that was to believe that their childcare arrangements were safe.  Thousands upon thousands  of other parents have done the same on holiday - with no ill effects on their children.

Hindsight with it's 20/20 vision is indeed a wonderful thing - just as it is so easy to be wise after the event.  Both being  perfect descriptions of the pious attitude of many sceptics IMO.

AIMHO

The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline Brietta

Re: There were nets that wooshed and drapes on the window
« Reply #86 on: June 17, 2017, 12:42:26 PM »
But McCanns are not suspects so everything is OK
Never a truer word spoken, Jassie;  the pity of it is that it has all got lost within the deluge of trivia which was designed in my opinion with the definite intent of denigrating Madeleine McCann's parents.

A prime example of which is the doubt cast on Jane Tanner's sighting of the man carrying a child and as we are discussing here, how high do curtains blow in a gust of wind or air.

Way back in 2008 it was being reported that ...

PJ volta a acreditar no rapto de Maddie
PJ re-believes Maddie's abduction


03.05.2008 at 5:00 p.m

The Judiciary Police (PJ) is preparing to release the McCann couple from any involvement in the death and disappearance of their daughter Madeleine.

A year of investigations was not enough to gather evidence or strong evidence to support an indictment against Kate and Gerry.

According to an official of the PJ, the analysis of the testimony of the seven friends of the couple, collected last month in England, "did not detect contradictions that can not be solved."

More: the biological traces found in the apartment and in the car rented by the McCanns are insufficient to support the thesis of accidental murder and subsequent concealment of the child's corpse, which disappeared today a year ago.
http://expresso.sapo.pt/dossies/dossiest_actualidade/dos_madeleine_mccan/pj-volta-a-acreditar-no-rapto-de-maddie=f310393

As Mulder would say "The truth is out there."  One can only wonder at the way it has got lost in a sea of misinformation and propaganda.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Benice

Re: There were nets that wooshed and drapes on the window
« Reply #87 on: June 17, 2017, 12:49:30 PM »
Never a truer word spoken, Jassie;  the pity of it is that it has all got lost within the deluge of trivia which was designed in my opinion with the definite intent of denigrating Madeleine McCann's parents.

A prime example of which is the doubt cast on Jane Tanner's sighting of the man carrying a child and as we are discussing here, how high do curtains blow in a gust of wind or air.

Way back in 2008 it was being reported that ...

PJ volta a acreditar no rapto de Maddie
PJ re-believes Maddie's abduction


03.05.2008 at 5:00 p.m

The Judiciary Police (PJ) is preparing to release the McCann couple from any involvement in the death and disappearance of their daughter Madeleine.

A year of investigations was not enough to gather evidence or strong evidence to support an indictment against Kate and Gerry.

According to an official of the PJ, the analysis of the testimony of the seven friends of the couple, collected last month in England, "did not detect contradictions that can not be solved."

More: the biological traces found in the apartment and in the car rented by the McCanns are insufficient to support the thesis of accidental murder and subsequent concealment of the child's corpse, which disappeared today a year ago.
http://expresso.sapo.pt/dossies/dossiest_actualidade/dos_madeleine_mccan/pj-volta-a-acreditar-no-rapto-de-maddie=f310393

As Mulder would say "The truth is out there."  One can only wonder at the way it has got lost in a sea of misinformation and propaganda.

The result of spending too much time going into the minutiae of the minutiae tends to be that folk end up not being able to see the wood for the trees IMO.

The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

stephen25000

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Re: There were nets that wooshed and drapes on the window
« Reply #88 on: June 17, 2017, 12:50:21 PM »
The McCanns made one mistake and that was to believe that their childcare arrangements were safe.  Thousands upon thousands  of other parents have done the same on holiday - with no ill effects on their children.

Hindsight with it's 20/20 vision is indeed a wonderful thing - just as it is so easy to be wise after the event.  Both being  perfect descriptions of the pious attitude of many sceptics IMO.

AIMHO

There is no excuse for not using common sense.

As for not locking the apartment.

They did in daytime, so any views as to why they weren't aware of the potential crime goes out the window.

stephen25000

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Re: There were nets that wooshed and drapes on the window
« Reply #89 on: June 17, 2017, 12:51:49 PM »
The result of spending too much time going into the minutiae of the minutiae tends to be that folk end up not being able to see the wood for the trees IMO.

That Benice applies to the abduction scenario.


Which has gone nowhere.

IMHO of course.