Luz on the digs and searches on the Mound in Praia da Luz.

[Mr Gray]

Grime has told us what reliability by the alerts are as regards evidence
Zero
The alerts point to where to look for evidence
None was found

[stephen25000]

So what particular thing did you see that was so fascinating?  You said you didn't see them search inside the house, so all you saw was the dog going in.   We saw Eddie searching the apartments and the cars.

When have you witnessed or observed any searches conducted by dogs ?

Other than relating to this case.

[stephen25000]

Grime has told us what reliability by the alerts are as regards evidence
Zero
The alerts point to where to look for evidence
None was found

Why not quote the entirety of what Grime said as regards the indications, rather than your selective quotes ?

[Mr Gray]

When have you witnessed or observed any searches conducted by dogs ?

Other than relating to this case.

Have you
Can you substantiate this
Which murder case was it

[misty]

When have you witnessed or observed any searches conducted by dogs ?

Other than relating to this case.

Why don't you give us your own detailed observations of the dogs in action?

[pathfinder73]

Amaral worked with Harrison at the time and was privy to information you don't know about. Amaral will understand  and know what the experts really think about the many dog alerts in this case.

You do not understand cadaver dogs - Morse alerts to blood like Eddie, Tito, Muzzy. I don't know why your same propaganda posts about Morse not alerting to blood to put down Eddie are allowed to remain here. MG can't comment about this case because it's still open and dog alerts are part of it!

Tito and Muzzy handler Sally Richards said recently: “They are trained to find anything from tiny specks of blood which are hard for the human eye to see to a full-sized victim, and everything in between.”

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/madeleine-mccann-search-april-jones-3642420#ixzz33lYYLilY

[Mr Gray]

Why not quote the entirety of what Grime said as regards the indications, rather than your selective quotes ?

Grime stated clearly the alerts have NO EVIDENTIAL RELIABILITY
That's it
Nothing selective

[stephen25000]

Grime stated clearly the alerts have NO EVIDENTIAL RELIABILITY
That's it
Nothing selective

The whole quote please.

Not just your extract.

[Mr Gray]

The whole quote please.

Not just your extract.

I'm quoting the relevant part
If you wish to post something else it's up to you

[stephen25000]

I'm quoting the relevant part
If you wish to post something else it's up to you

That is merely reflecting your opinion.

[ShiningInLuz]

@Shining

I thought locals said animals had been previously buried in the location OG searched?

That referred to the mini-digs to the east of Luz, from memory.  If it refers to the central site, please flag it up.  I have been over a fair portion of the central site and never seen anything that looked like a grave.

I cannot tell whether a local actually claimed this.  I cannot tell whether such burials took place.  It seems a lot of effort to dispose of a dead animal, but my opinion on this counts for little.

I have never visited the two sites to the east.  But that reminds me, I am supposed to be visiting the site of the 'well-that-was-never-searched'.

[ShiningInLuz]

Did the dogs work in tandem - i.e. both checking the designated zones?

Sorry, I cannot say.

As explained, I was largely unaware of the details of the case or doggy details.

From memory, there was more than one horse on the site.  But I cannot remember how those were deployed.

[ShiningInLuz]

You are merely quoting your opinion
Mine is supported by logic
These dogs are very sensitive yet they will pass a source of cadaver scent and not alert
Not once but several times according to you
That is not logical

I am describing what I saw.

If you think there had been a cadaver on the mound, send your 'logic' to Operation Grange.

 

[ShiningInLuz]

There is the difference;  while you were being amused my thoughts and I know the thoughts of others were with the family existing on tenterhooks that the remains of their beloved child might be dug up.

Therein lies the difference indeed.

Whatever the people of the UK thought, the people of Luz thought that the idea that Madeleine had been buried on the mound was farcical.

That you are ignorant of local conditions is your problem, not that of the citizens of Luz.

And no, the citizens here are not subservient to the British taxpayers or their thoughts.  There is no Rule Britannia going on here.  You would be more accurate in claiming that for May 2007, when Brit 'experts' piled in left, right and centre, and created chaos.

Here's a thought before you continue.  How does Luz bury its deceased citizens every year when May comes around?

[ShiningInLuz]

How do they manage to grow potatoes commercially on the mound which you say is impervious to the use of manual digging implements?

I have no reason to believe it was a commercial plot, as that would have secured a supply of water and would also have access to high-power digging engines.

So let me consider a personal allotment instead.

That would still have access to a 2-stroke rotivator.  Any further digging can be carried out in the rainy season, which is normally Nov and Feb, when we get torrential thunderstorms.  By the start of May the ground is normally baked cement-hard.