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Offline Angelo222

Re: Maddie case funding. McCanns anxiously await news from Scotland Yard.
« Reply #210 on: February 18, 2018, 04:31:01 PM »

Have Scotland Yard the authority to investigate these criminal activities if they are directly linked to the disappearance?

If they involve English nationals then yes.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Maddie case funding. McCanns anxiously await news from Scotland Yard.
« Reply #211 on: February 18, 2018, 05:34:54 PM »
If they involve English nationals then yes.
Do they know it involves English or UK nationals or do they just suspect it could involve UK nationals?
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Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #212 on: February 18, 2018, 07:27:05 PM »
If they involve English nationals then yes.

Only if they were committed on UK territory, surely?
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Offline Angelo222

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« Reply #213 on: February 19, 2018, 02:58:43 PM »
Only if they were committed on UK territory, surely?

There are lots of examples of British nationals being prosecuted in the UK for crimes committed abroad.

“Where any murder or manslaughter shall be committed on land out of the United Kingdom, whether within the Queen's dominions or without, and whether the person killed were a subject of Her Majesty or not, every offence committed by any subject of Her Majesty in respect of any such case, whether the same shall amount to the offence of murder or of manslaughter, ... may be dealt with, inquired of, tried, determined, and punished...in England......”

https://www.ukpolicelawblog.com/index.php/9-blog/84-murder-abroad
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Maddie case funding. McCanns anxiously await news from Scotland Yard.
« Reply #214 on: February 20, 2018, 10:38:36 AM »
There are lots of examples of British nationals being prosecuted in the UK for crimes committed abroad.

“Where any murder or manslaughter shall be committed on land out of the United Kingdom, whether within the Queen's dominions or without, and whether the person killed were a subject of Her Majesty or not, every offence committed by any subject of Her Majesty in respect of any such case, whether the same shall amount to the offence of murder or of manslaughter, ... may be dealt with, inquired of, tried, determined, and punished...in England......”

https://www.ukpolicelawblog.com/index.php/9-blog/84-murder-abroad

It would depend what crime was committed then. I think it would also require the agreement of the judiciary of the country where the crime was committed.
https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/jurisdiction
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

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« Reply #215 on: February 25, 2018, 02:51:33 PM »
There are lots of examples of British nationals being prosecuted in the UK for crimes committed abroad.

“Where any murder or manslaughter shall be committed on land out of the United Kingdom, whether within the Queen's dominions or without, and whether the person killed were a subject of Her Majesty or not, every offence committed by any subject of Her Majesty in respect of any such case, whether the same shall amount to the offence of murder or of manslaughter, ... may be dealt with, inquired of, tried, determined, and punished...in England......”

https://www.ukpolicelawblog.com/index.php/9-blog/84-murder-abroad




This is why SY stated what is in Brietta's  tag. This will be investigated as if the crime was committed in the UK.. some people misunderstood this. So if UK nationals are involved in Maddies Disappearance then they will be arrested and punished. Simples...
« Last Edit: February 25, 2018, 03:11:51 PM by Eleanor »
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Offline jassi

Re: Maddie case funding. McCanns anxiously await news from Scotland Yard.
« Reply #216 on: February 25, 2018, 02:55:05 PM »



This is why SY stated what is in Brietta's  tag. This will be investigated as if the crime was committed in the UK.. some people misunderstood this. So if UK nationals are involved in Maddies Disappearance then they will be arrested and punished. Simples...

Well, prosecuted, not necessarily convicted.

Difficult  if you haven't determined that a crime took place
« Last Edit: February 25, 2018, 03:12:34 PM by Eleanor »
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I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Maddie case funding. McCanns anxiously await news from Scotland Yard.
« Reply #217 on: February 25, 2018, 03:25:39 PM »
Well, prosecuted, not necessarily convicted.

Difficult  if you haven't determined that a crime took place

well actually people have been convicted even if a body has not been found! But I do get your point.
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: Maddie case funding. McCanns anxiously await news from Scotland Yard.
« Reply #218 on: March 26, 2018, 09:45:40 PM »
EXCLUSIVE: The hunt for Madeleine McCann CONTINUES as Home Office approves Met Police’s request for cash to pursue a ‘final line of inquiry’ 11 years after youngster vanished

The Home Office allocated an unknown amount to the Met's Operation Grange

Detectives investigating the disappearance applied for more funding in February

More than £11 million has been spent so far on the probe to find the missing girl

The hunt for Madeleine McCann will continue after the Metropolitan Police Service was granted more funds to continue the 11-year-long search.

The Home Office revealed today that it had allocated further funds to the Met's investigation to hers disappearance - Operation Grange.

A representative said: 'The Government remains committed to the investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.

'We have briefed the Metropolitan Police Service that its application for Special Grant funding for Operation Grange will be granted.'

Detectives investigating the disappearance of Madeleine McCann applied for more funding for the search in February.

Government funding for the investigation has historically been agreed every six months, with £154,000 being granted from October last year until the end of March.

More than £11 million has been spent so far on the probe to find the missing girl, who vanished from the family's holiday apartment in Praia da Luz in Portugal in May 2007, aged three.

The exact figure allocated for the ongoing investigation is not yet known.

Madeleine, three, vanished from an apartment in Praia da Luz in May 2007 while her parents were eating tapas with friends at a restaurant nearby.

She would now be nearly 15.

Operation Grange has been one of the longest, most high-profile and costly police investigations in history.

Launched in May 2011, officers have sifted (and translated) 40,000 documents produced by Portuguese police who conducted the initial investigation, and by the eight teams of private detectives who have worked on the case.

Some 600 'persons of interest' have been examined and 'sightings' of Madeleine — in Brazil, India, Morocco and Paraguay, on a German plane and in a New Zealand supermarket — assessed. 

The Portuguese investigation of Madeleine's disappearance was criticised by the British authorities as being not fit for purpose.

Scotland Yard began an investigative review into the disappearance in 2011, on the orders of then-Prime Minister David Cameron.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5546721/The-hunt-Madeleine-McCann-CONTINUES-Home-Office-approves-Met-Polices-funding.html
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Maddie case funding. McCanns anxiously await news from Scotland Yard.
« Reply #219 on: March 26, 2018, 10:38:10 PM »
EXCLUSIVE: The hunt for Madeleine McCann CONTINUES as Home Office approves Met Police’s request for cash to pursue a ‘final line of inquiry’ 11 years after youngster vanished

The Home Office allocated an unknown amount to the Met's Operation Grange

Detectives investigating the disappearance applied for more funding in February

More than £11 million has been spent so far on the probe to find the missing girl

The hunt for Madeleine McCann will continue after the Metropolitan Police Service was granted more funds to continue the 11-year-long search.

The Home Office revealed today that it had allocated further funds to the Met's investigation to hers disappearance - Operation Grange.

A representative said: 'The Government remains committed to the investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.

'We have briefed the Metropolitan Police Service that its application for Special Grant funding for Operation Grange will be granted.'

Detectives investigating the disappearance of Madeleine McCann applied for more funding for the search in February.

Government funding for the investigation has historically been agreed every six months, with £154,000 being granted from October last year until the end of March.

More than £11 million has been spent so far on the probe to find the missing girl, who vanished from the family's holiday apartment in Praia da Luz in Portugal in May 2007, aged three.

The exact figure allocated for the ongoing investigation is not yet known.

Madeleine, three, vanished from an apartment in Praia da Luz in May 2007 while her parents were eating tapas with friends at a restaurant nearby.

She would now be nearly 15.

Operation Grange has been one of the longest, most high-profile and costly police investigations in history.

Launched in May 2011, officers have sifted (and translated) 40,000 documents produced by Portuguese police who conducted the initial investigation, and by the eight teams of private detectives who have worked on the case.

Some 600 'persons of interest' have been examined and 'sightings' of Madeleine — in Brazil, India, Morocco and Paraguay, on a German plane and in a New Zealand supermarket — assessed. 

The Portuguese investigation of Madeleine's disappearance was criticised by the British authorities as being not fit for purpose.

Scotland Yard began an investigative review into the disappearance in 2011, on the orders of then-Prime Minister David Cameron.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5546721/The-hunt-Madeleine-McCann-CONTINUES-Home-Office-approves-Met-Polices-funding.html

This is good news indeed. they must be near making arrests! I will swallow my own head if the person/s says  they broke in through a window... drugged the children, hid while Gerry was admiring his daughter... all this will soon be given its own place in the comedy books
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Maddie case funding. McCanns anxiously await news from Scotland Yard.
« Reply #220 on: March 27, 2018, 12:58:44 AM »
If Kate and Gerry are involved with the disappearance of the daughter they take the cake in being happy that the investigation is continuing.  I think if it was me and I'd done it I'd be making suggestions "that the current normality is accepted, we are a nuclear family of 4 not 5 but it is fine, I can live with that".  And just let bygones be bygones.
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Offline Brietta

Re: Maddie case funding. McCanns anxiously await news from Scotland Yard.
« Reply #221 on: March 27, 2018, 01:36:15 AM »
If Kate and Gerry are involved with the disappearance of the daughter they take the cake in being happy that the investigation is continuing.  I think if it was me and I'd done it I'd be making suggestions "that the current normality is accepted, we are a nuclear family of 4 not 5 but it is fine, I can live with that".  And just let bygones be bygones.

Clearly there is justification for continued funding ... therefore there is still work to be done on Madeleine's behalf.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline faithlilly

Re: Maddie case funding. McCanns anxiously await news from Scotland Yard.
« Reply #222 on: March 27, 2018, 10:33:04 AM »
Clearly there is justification for continued funding ... therefore there is still work to be done on Madeleine's behalf.

There certainly seems to be. This is good news indeed.
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Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline sadie

Re: Maddie case funding. McCanns anxiously await news from Scotland Yard.
« Reply #223 on: March 27, 2018, 10:40:00 AM »
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EXCLUSIVE: The hunt for Madeleine McCann CONTINUES as Home Office approves Met Police’s request for cash to pursue a ‘final line of inquiry’ 11 years after youngster vanished

The Home Office allocated an unknown amount to the Met's Operation Grange

Detectives investigating the disappearance applied for more funding in February

More than £11 million has been spent so far on the probe to find the missing girl

The hunt for Madeleine McCann will continue after the Metropolitan Police Service was granted more funds to continue the 11-year-long search.

The Home Office revealed today that it had allocated further funds to the Met's investigation to hers disappearance - Operation Grange.

A representative said: 'The Government remains committed to the investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.

'We have briefed the Metropolitan Police Service that its application for Special Grant funding for Operation Grange will be granted.'

Detectives investigating the disappearance of Madeleine McCann applied for more funding for the search in February.

Government funding for the investigation has historically been agreed every six months, with £154,000 being granted from October last year until the end of March.

More than £11 million has been spent so far on the probe to find the missing girl, who vanished from the family's holiday apartment in Praia da Luz in Portugal in May 2007, aged three.

The exact figure allocated for the ongoing investigation is not yet known.

Madeleine, three, vanished from an apartment in Praia da Luz in May 2007 while her parents were eating tapas with friends at a restaurant nearby.

She would now be nearly 15.

Operation Grange has been one of the longest, most high-profile and costly police investigations in history.

Launched in May 2011, officers have sifted (and translated) 40,000 documents produced by Portuguese police who conducted the initial investigation, and by the eight teams of private detectives who have worked on the case.

Some 600 'persons of interest' have been examined and 'sightings' of Madeleine — in Brazil, India, Morocco and Paraguay, on a German plane and in a New Zealand supermarket — assessed. 

The Portuguese investigation of Madeleine's disappearance was criticised by the British authorities as being not fit for purpose.

Scotland Yard began an investigative review into the disappearance in 2011, on the orders of then-Prime Minister David Cameron.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5546721/The-hunt-Madeleine-McCann-CONTINUES-Home-Office-approves-Met-Polices-funding.html
Fabulous news.    8@??)(   Thanks PFinder

Can't wait for the finish of this case.   

Do hope that they manage to find Madeleine as well as charge anyone involved in her disappearance.

Offline Carana

Re: Maddie case funding. McCanns anxiously await news from Scotland Yard.
« Reply #224 on: March 27, 2018, 10:54:42 AM »
It would depend what crime was committed then. I think it would also require the agreement of the judiciary of the country where the crime was committed.
https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/jurisdiction

Yes.

And, curiously, the definition of a British "subject" isn't a synonym for "national".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Offences_Against_the_Person_Act_1861

We had a thread on this many moons ago...