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Online Eleanor

Re: Moderation queries.
« Reply #345 on: February 11, 2021, 05:34:39 PM »
The irony is that his supporters did give it all away for free 😂😂

Ah Yes.  I had forgotten that.  Loads a people got it for Christmas.  But somedebody had to pay for it.

Offline Brietta

Re: Moderation queries.
« Reply #346 on: February 11, 2021, 05:50:56 PM »
So it seems that like beauty being in the eye of the beholder being awarded points for libel depends on whether or not the moderator is aware of what the truth of the matter actually is.

Not a lot to be done about that I'm afraid as we are all only human and can't know it all ;(

Hope this goes some way to resolving your query, VS.
The remit of Operation Grange is to investigate ...  "(as if the abduction occurred in the UK)"

Offline G-Unit

Re: Moderation queries.
« Reply #347 on: February 11, 2021, 08:57:21 PM »
Another storm in a teacup in my opinion.

Amaral said;

"I requested early retirement in order to be able to express myself freely" Page 3, The Truth of the Lie.

and I have given a cite where his words can be found and read by anyone who wants to.

If someone accuses him of lying by saying that his real motive was to cash in on Madeleine McCanns disappearance then a cite to support that statement is needed. If a cite can't be provided then Amaral is being libelled because he's being called a liar without any evidence that he did lie.
No-one here believes the parents were directly involved in MM's disappearance because belief without evidence is useless.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Moderation queries.
« Reply #348 on: February 11, 2021, 11:12:40 PM »
Another storm in a teacup in my opinion.

Amaral said;

"I requested early retirement in order to be able to express myself freely" Page 3, The Truth of the Lie.

and I have given a cite where his words can be found and read by anyone who wants to.

If someone accuses him of lying by saying that his real motive was to cash in on Madeleine McCanns disappearance then a cite to support that statement is needed. If a cite can't be provided then Amaral is being libelled because he's being called a liar without any evidence that he did lie.
I did not call him a liar.  I suggested an additional motive, a financial one, which is clearly evidenced by the publishing deal he negotiated and the book he wrote which went on sale throughout Portugal on Day One of its publication.  And for this I am accused of lying and given a warning.  You may call this a storm in a teacup, I call it shining a light on double standards and hypocrisy, especially as you are on record liking a post which claims Amaral solved the case in 2007.  No “IMo” but stated as a fact.   
Ignoring me won't make me go away.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Moderation queries.
« Reply #349 on: February 12, 2021, 09:45:02 AM »
I did not call him a liar.  I suggested an additional motive, a financial one, which is clearly evidenced by the publishing deal he negotiated and the book he wrote which went on sale throughout Portugal on Day One of its publication.  And for this I am accused of lying and given a warning.  You may call this a storm in a teacup, I call it shining a light on double standards and hypocrisy, especially as you are on record liking a post which claims Amaral solved the case in 2007.  No “IMo” but stated as a fact.

You didn't 'suggest' that Amaral lied about his motive for writing his book, you stated it as a fact. A fact you cannot prove. Accusing someone of lying without proof is libellous. Posting opinion as fact is against forum rules.
No-one here believes the parents were directly involved in MM's disappearance because belief without evidence is useless.

Online Eleanor

Re: Moderation queries.
« Reply #350 on: February 12, 2021, 09:50:10 AM »
You didn't 'suggest' that Amaral lied about his motive for writing his book, you stated it as a fact. A fact you cannot prove. Accusing someone of lying without proof is libellous. Posting opinion as fact is against forum rules.

As Spammy often does.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Moderation queries.
« Reply #351 on: February 12, 2021, 10:12:23 AM »
As Spammy often does.

And for which he gets sanctioned, as should everyone who does the same.
No-one here believes the parents were directly involved in MM's disappearance because belief without evidence is useless.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Moderation queries.
« Reply #352 on: February 12, 2021, 10:27:40 AM »
And for which he gets sanctioned, as should everyone who does the same.
Except you didn't, you "liked" his post instead, thus giving him the green light and encouragement to post more crap.
Ignoring me won't make me go away.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Moderation queries.
« Reply #353 on: February 12, 2021, 10:28:42 AM »
You didn't 'suggest' that Amaral lied about his motive for writing his book, you stated it as a fact. A fact you cannot prove. Accusing someone of lying without proof is libellous. Posting opinion as fact is against forum rules.
Where did I write Amaral lied?  You are libelling ME by stating I wrote something which I never did.  Kindly desist from this outrageous slur!
Ignoring me won't make me go away.

Online Eleanor

Re: Moderation queries.
« Reply #354 on: February 12, 2021, 10:44:15 AM »
And for which he gets sanctioned, as should everyone who does the same.

But not by you.  Instead, you Liked The Comment.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Moderation queries.
« Reply #355 on: February 12, 2021, 11:49:25 AM »


Vertigo Swirl

« Reply #404 on: October 23, 2020, 07:11:30 PM »Quote

Madeleine was abducted.




No IMO here so why should I have to?
Free Martin Brueckner

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Moderation queries.
« Reply #356 on: February 12, 2021, 12:36:14 PM »

Vertigo Swirl

« Reply #404 on: October 23, 2020, 07:11:30 PM »Quote

Madeleine was abducted.




No IMO here so why should I have to?
You would need to read my comment in the context it was written which was another of those interminable rows about opinion versus fact.  My comment was a deliberate provocation to Pathfinder who always writes opinion as fact and never receives sanctions.   Thing is, if you have these rules then either everyone has to abide by them or let's just ditch this rule (my preferred option, let's accept that everything anyone writes is opinion without having to constantly point it out).  As it is the rules are applied arbitrarily by whichever mod decides its your turn for warning points and looks for any excuse to dole them out, usually when you're winning an argument with them. 
Ignoring me won't make me go away.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Moderation queries.
« Reply #357 on: February 22, 2021, 11:41:31 PM »
If named individuals are being accused of dishonesty on this forum why should they be denied the right of reply?  I have received a warning for suggesting Sandra F is contacted to reply to her accusers here.  What is wrong with that?  Either don’t allow the slurs in the first place or allow the person being slurred the opportunity to defend themselves from such accusations surely?
Ignoring me won't make me go away.