Author Topic: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?  (Read 7925 times)

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Offline Brietta

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #705 on: March 03, 2020, 01:33:44 PM »
The second witness was Martin Grime of the United Kingdom. He is occasionally contracted by the U.S. government and is a qualified expert in cadaver dogs.

Grime displayed five videos of his search dog “Eddie,” trained to search for human decomposition. The videos, filmed at the LaFayette Police Department during September 2007, displayed the dog’s ability to pick up on alert scents


There is a lot of documented footage showcasing Eddie's skills so no need to worry when this case goes to trial  ?{)(**

We've seen him in action in the field.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #706 on: March 03, 2020, 01:40:28 PM »
I have given the cites before.

There are stages of decomposition.   Gases are given off in each one of the stages.   Each stage smells differently.

So how long had the piglets that Grime trained Eddie with been dead?

As I understand it scientists are unable to identify the substances emitted by dead bodies. If they could they'd be able to reproduce the scents. The scientist you quoted identified only 8, I think. Additionally, the dogs are trained initially on pig cadavers. As they work they learn more about the target scents. Eddie was a very experienced dog.
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Online Davel

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #707 on: March 03, 2020, 01:47:15 PM »
As I understand it scientists are unable to identify the substances emitted by dead bodies. If they could they'd be able to reproduce the scents. The scientist you quoted identified only 8, I think. Additionally, the dogs are trained initially on pig cadavers. As they work they learn more about the target scents. Eddie was a very experienced dog.

eddie found one or two cadavers in operations.....was used in 37 cases over 5 or six years. I dont seetaht as particularly experienced
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #708 on: March 05, 2020, 01:39:02 PM »
rose, edwards, harron, collier are 4 for starters.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Online Davel

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #709 on: March 05, 2020, 03:09:55 PM »
rose, edwards, harron, collier are 4 for starters.
Link for Rose and Collier
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #710 on: March 05, 2020, 07:51:31 PM »
In March, 2002, they played a major role in locating the body of Barnsley murder victim 21-year-old Shane Collier. Even though his body had been cut up into parts and buried five months earlier, the dogs found them in a remote woodland in Cumbria. The South Yorkshire police dogs Frankie and Eddie and their handlers now work as part of the special search unit operation by the National Crime and Operations Faculty.

https://www.thestar.co.uk/whats-on/out-and-about/dogs-find-body-parts-of-murder-victim-1-320914
http://eddieandkeela.blogspot.com/2010/06/eddie-and-martin-grime.html

FBI consultant Martin Grime told the High Court in Glasgow he and his springer spaniels Eddie, Keela and Morse were called in by police in the hunt for Bob Rose, who disappeared on the island of Sanday last June.

Eddie, who is trained to detect dead bodies and was used in the McCann case and the Soham murders inquiry, reacted when he was taken to sand dunes at Sty Wick on June 24.

Mr Grime said: "His normal reaction is to bark. On this occasion he started to dig."

The body of "Black Bob" Rose was later found at the spot.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/sniffer-dog-used-in-search-for-madeleine-1050817
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline barrier

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #711 on: March 06, 2020, 04:31:52 PM »
Murder 24/7 episodes 4 and 5,this week,blooming blood dogs only went and found blood.

Dog handler:Our dogs can find blood that we can never see.
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Online Davel

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #712 on: March 06, 2020, 04:36:30 PM »
Murder 24/7 episodes 4 and 5,this week,blooming blood dogs only went and found blood.

so they found actual evidence....doing what they are trained for and are very good at
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