Operation Grange methodology.

[G-Unit]

Operation Grange, according to A C Rowley, was treated as a cold case. UK police tend to revisit cold cases where there is forensic evidence because advances in forensic science, or new additions to the National DNA Database can provide an answer.

In America they have tended to focus more on new witnesses or informants. Jim Gamble at one point mentioned changing loyalties and that is what the American Police hoped to take advantage of.
http://criminology.research.southwales.ac.uk/features/cold-case-reviews/

The McCann case was short on forensic evidence, so OG probably followed the American model. Hence the appeals, which did bring some new 'nuggets' of information, according to Rowley.

I wonder if they ever resolved the 195 questions they found early on? I can see unanswered questions in the files, but the people they interviewed wouldn't have answered my questions.

In the end they seem to have followed three theories, all abduction related; a planned abduction, a burglary gone wrong and an individual sex offender.

The problem I have is that while an abduction is possible, it's not the only possibility.

[jassi]

Operation Grange, according to A C Rowley, was treated as a cold case. UK police tend to revisit cold cases where there is forensic evidence because advances in forensic science, or new additions to the National DNA Database can provide an answer.

In America they have tended to focus more on new witnesses or informants. Jim Gamble at one point mentioned changing loyalties and that is what the American Police hoped to take advantage of.
http://criminology.research.southwales.ac.uk/features/cold-case-reviews/

The McCann case was short on forensic evidence, so OG probably followed the American model. Hence the appeals, which did bring some new 'nuggets' of information, according to Rowley.

I wonder if they ever resolved the 195 questions they found early on? I can see unanswered questions in the files, but the people they interviewed wouldn't have answered my questions.

In the end they seem to have followed three theories, all abduction related; a planned abduction, a burglary gone wrong and an individual sex offender.

The problem I have is that while an abduction is possible, it's not the only possibility.

To be fair, that is what were instructed to do at the very beginning of the review.

[barrier]

To be fair, that is what were instructed to do at the very beginning of the review.

There doesn't seem to be any thing that points to them straying from it.

[jassi]

6 years and £12 million and still no trace of an abductor. Maybe, just maybe they isn't one.

[stephen25000]

6 years and £12 million and still no trace of an abductor. Maybe, just maybe they isn't one.

Well, you cannae find something if it doesn't exist.

[Mr Gray]

Well, you cannae find something if it doesn't exist.

They haven't found Maddie yet she definitely existed so same could well be said for an abductor

[jassi]

Well, you cannae find something if it doesn't exist.

You certainly can't.

I suspect that ultimately OG will bring in their spin people and and claim that they have not been able to identify an abductor, rather than admit that there was no real evidence of  one in the first place.

[stephen25000]

You certainly can't.

I suspect that ultimately OG will bring in their spin people and and claim that they have not been able to identify an abductor, rather than admit that there was no real evidence of  one in the first place.

That has been my view from the start, as it was a one remit investigation and nothing more.

[jassi]

I do wonder if when it is all over, we'll begin to get accounts from the foot-soldiers about how the investigation was really carried out.

[Eleanor]

I very much doubt that any of them will write a libellous book, so let's have a care, please.

[jassi]

I very much doubt that any of them will write a libellous book, so let's have a care, please.

I wasn't suggesting anything libelous, so why should you?

I was thinking more along the lines of how the investigation was carried out and how they functioned under foreign jurisdiction.

[Eleanor]

I wasn't suggesting anything libelous, so why should you?

I was thinking more along the lines of how the investigation was carried out and how they functioned under foreign jurisdiction.

I think your comment was debatable.  This is why it hasn't been deleted.  So please proceed with caution, and this doesn't only apply to you.

[Benice]

An MPS update 24 October 2013

At the request of The Policia Judiciara, AC Mark Rowley and DCI Andy Redwood attended a meeting with senior officers on 17 October, in Lisbon, to discuss this significant development, and for a comprehensive briefing on the new lines of enquiry which, at this point, are separate to the lines of enquiry being followed by the MPS. At the conclusion of that meeting, the group were joined by Kate and Gerry McCann who were briefed on the plans to apply to reopen the investigation.

Did the PJ ask the McCanns to travel to Portugal? It doesn't say they did. Perhaps they turned up uninvited.

So do you think it is possible that the McCanns were not invited -  but they secretly contrived a way of bumping into police officers -  who, for some unknown reason, then decided they had no choice but to comprehensively brief them on their plans to apply to re-open the case  - and this info was only imparted to them as a result of a  'cunning' plan by the McCanns.      Really? 

The power of 'wishful thinking' never ceases to amaze me.

[Mr Gray]

So do you think it is possible that the McCanns were not invited -  but they secretly contrived a way of bumping into police officers -  who, for some unknown reason, then decided they had no choice but to comprehensively brief them on their plans to apply to re-open the case  - and this info was only imparted to them as a result of a  'cunning' plan by the McCanns.      Really? 

The power of 'wishful thinking' never ceases to amaze me.

more evidence that the Mccanns are not suspects

[stephen25000]

So do you think it is possible that the McCanns were not invited -  but they secretly contrived a way of bumping into police officers -  who, for some unknown reason, then decided they had no choice but to comprehensively brief them on their plans to apply to re-open the case  - and this info was only imparted to them as a result of a  'cunning' plan by the McCanns.      Really? 

The power of 'wishful thinking' never ceases to amaze me.

Still waiting for concrete evidence of abduction.

It's been a long wait.

Is that 'wishful thinking' ?