Blogger Nigel Nessling avoids prison after downloading 40,000 indecent images.

[Mr Gray]

Nessling is to blame for his actions.

No one else.

He chose to do what he did.

If he had these tendencies, he should have sought psychological and medical help.

Of course he is...no one else to blame

[barrier]

Of course he is...no one else to blame

Is that a tacit admission than you can't find any thing in my post which apportions blame to any one else.

[Mr Gray]

Is that a tacit admission than you can't find any thing in my post which apportions blame to any one else.

no

[Benice]

That it takes all sorts to make this world? its related to the McCann case because of his support I suppose.
I can imagine the furore it would cause if some guy like this was an anti and it came to light.
After reading a Brenda Leyland thread on here,people and glass houses come to mind.

There is no comparison between the two 'cases' imo.    You will not find anyone on here trying to shift the blame onto another person (or persons)  for a decision Nessling chose to make of his own volition. 

IMO

[G-Unit]

I dont see any point in this thread. We all agree what Nessling did was wrong .

I try to treat other posters with respect, even if I don't agree with their stance. Others, including Nessling, are not so reasonable. People's agendas, intelligence, compassion and charitableness  are questioned based solely on the fact that they have a different opinion than the poster.

In my opinion the gullible and naive are those who shared, believed, encouraged and/or repeated this man's views. They believed what he said about himself, them, and those who have questioned the McCann's story.

They need to accept that they were wrong about him. They couldn't know that he was a hypocrite and a liar, but I think the lesson to be learned is that reasonable people don't spend their time telling everyone how superior they are. They don't try to besmirch others in order to suggest that what they say can be ignored.

My opinion is that someone who acts as he did online is someone any reasonable person should avoid associating with. Perhaps some will take the lesson on board; I can only hope.

[Mr Gray]

WE know certain facts...nessling has been convicted as a paedophile.......we know what the experts say about this behaviour...those are facts.

[Mr Gray]

I try to treat other posters with respect, even if I don't agree with their stance. Others, including Nessling, are not so reasonable. People's agendas, intelligence, compassion and charitableness  are questioned based solely on the fact that they have a different opinion than the poster.

In my opinion the gullible and naive are those who shared, believed, encouraged and/or repeated this man's views. They believed what he said about himself, them, and those who have questioned the McCann's story.

They need to accept that they were wrong about him. They couldn't know that he was a hypocrite and a liar, but I think the lesson to be learned is that reasonable people don't spend their time telling everyone how superior they are. They don't try to besmirch others in order to suggest that what they say can be ignored.

My opinion is that someone who acts as he did online is someone any reasonable person should avoid associating with. Perhaps some will take the lesson on board; I can only hope.

As I have never read anything he has posted your criticism does not apply to me. The worst abuse I have seen on this forum did not come from a mccann supporter.....I still dont see the point in highlighting nessling...there are unsavoury posters on both sides

[barrier]

WE know certain facts...nessling has been convicted as a paedophile.......we know what the experts say about this behaviour...those are facts.

But perhaps not in this mans case is the qualifier.

[John]

There seems to be a lot of sour grapes in the comments last night from certain parties.

Nestling chose to do what he did, and at the time was accusing others of the same.

In my view, he has got his just desserts.

No, he got off very lightly IMHO.

[G-Unit]

WE know certain facts...nessling has been convicted as a paedophile.......we know what the experts say about this behaviour...those are facts.

Nessling, 59, now of Heron Close, Stowmarket, admitted three offences of making indecent images of children and possessing prohibited images of children.
http://www.ipswichstar.co.uk/news/ipswich-man-avoids-prison-after-downloading-over-40-000-indecent-images-of-children-1-5283183

That isn't a conviction as a paedophile, there are other reasons why people do it;

 the National Juvenile Online Victimization Study found that men (less than 1% were women) who view child pornography include those who are:

•   Sexually interested in prepubescent children (pedophiles) or young adolescents (hebephiles), who use child pornography images for sexual fantasy and gratification

•   Sexually “indiscriminant” meaning they are constantly searching for new and different sexual stimuli

•   Sexually curious, downloading a few images to satisfy that curiosity

•   Interested in profiting financially by selling images or setting up websites requiring payment for access
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/mary-l-pulido-phd/exploring-why-offenders-v_b_9330296.html

[Mr Gray]

Nessling, 59, now of Heron Close, Stowmarket, admitted three offences of making indecent images of children and possessing prohibited images of children.
http://www.ipswichstar.co.uk/news/ipswich-man-avoids-prison-after-downloading-over-40-000-indecent-images-of-children-1-5283183

That isn't a conviction as a paedophile, there are other reasons why people do it;

 the National Juvenile Online Victimization Study found that men (less than 1% were women) who view child pornography include those who are:

•   Sexually interested in prepubescent children (pedophiles) or young adolescents (hebephiles), who use child pornography images for sexual fantasy and gratification

•   Sexually “indiscriminant” meaning they are constantly searching for new and different sexual stimuli

•   Sexually curious, downloading a few images to satisfy that curiosity

•   Interested in profiting financially by selling images or setting up websites requiring payment for access
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/mary-l-pulido-phd/exploring-why-offenders-v_b_9330296.html

Thank you for at least in engaging in intelligent debate. I havent time to read the whole article at the moment but something strikes me straightaway. We are not talking about downloading a few images which would apply to sexually indiscriminant or curious...imo....but downloading thousands of images as in nesslings case...thats where the difence is..imo

[John]

WE know certain facts...nessling has been convicted as a paedophile.......we know what the experts say about this behaviour...those are facts.

There are many reasons why people practise paedophilia, let's not generalise.

[Mr Gray]

There are many reasons why people practise paedophilia, let's not generalise.

Im not generalising...Im quoting expert opinion. At the heart of paedophilia is a sexual attraction to children which for most of us is highly unusual.

[John]

Im not generalising...Im quoting expert opinion. At the heart of paedophilia is a sexual attraction to children which for most of us is highly unusual.

Did anyone attend Nessling's trial, does anyone know why he undertook the activities that he engaged in?  A Wikipedia definition of paedophilia is of little help.

[John]

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