Investigated alleged illegal adoption network of IURD.

[Brietta]

I judge by results.

The nature of Madeleine's disappearance has not been determined, let alone in court, and neither has her fate.

Why is it then that you among others take it upon yourself to promote that she is dead?  Please do not insult me by demanding a cite particularly as I would be spoilt for choice.

[stephen25000]

Why is it then that you among others take it upon yourself to promote that she is dead?  Please do not insult me by demanding a cite particularly as I would be spoilt for choice.

I believe she is dead.

She disappeared without trace, and she has not been found alive.

You are perfectly entitled to believe she is alive, it doesn't mean I have to believe that she is.

[jassi]

I find it best not to shy away from the thought of her being dead, but being wrong won't cause me any grief.

[Lace]

Maybe we should start quoting the papers from 2007/8? Would that be factual?

Probably only if it portrays Amaral and his theory in a good light.

[Lace]

Merely an opinion, and unsubstantiated.

NO PROOF.

Perhaps you can also enlighten as to what proof Madeleine was kidnapped or abducted ?

You first,   you enlighten as to how you know there is no evidence that she was trafficked.

[stephen25000]

You first,   you enlighten as to how you know there is no evidence that she was trafficked.

If she had been trafficked, there would have been a trail and should have been found.

Need I remind you, proof is required that she has been trafficked.

Hearsay doesn't count one iota.

[Lace]

If she had been trafficked, there would have been a trail and should have been found.

Need I remind you, proof is required that she has been trafficked.

Hearsay doesn't count one iota.

So how do you know they haven't found a trail?   You don't do you?    You make comments without even thinking what you are saying.

[stephen25000]

So how do you know they haven't found a trail?   You don't do you?    You make comments without even thinking what you are saying.

Have they found Madeleine ?

NO.

Have they solved her disappearance?

NO.

You are merely agreeing with press reports which bolster your views.


Evidence is what counts.



Anyone arrested ???

[jassi]

So how do you know they haven't found a trail?  You don't do you?    You make comments without even thinking what you are saying.

No straw too small to clutch it would seem.

[Brietta]

Meantime in Portugal the discussion concerning the alleged child kidnapping ring continues apace.

Research TVI. Grandchildren of Edir Macedo: "We were not kidnapped, we were adopted" [with video]
https://www.n-tv.pt/acontece/investigacao-tvi-netos-de-edir-macedo-nao-fomos-raptados-fomos-adotados-com-video/

With a pertinent observation in one comment

Alcides Costa
Depois de ouvir os dois "adoptados" a viver numa família americana há 20 anos, salta à vista o excelente ortuguês falado com sotaque brasileiro, sem o menor indício de sotaque inglês /americano. Por outro lado, como é que os dois podem afirmar peremptoriamente que foram adoptados de forma legal e sem trafulhices quando nem sequer sabiam ler, quanto mais terem voto na matéria? Naturalmente foram instruídos para dizerem no vídeo o que lhes foi ditado pelo bispo.

Alcides Costa
After hearing the two "adoptees" living in an American family 20 years ago, the excellent Portuguese spoken with a Brazilian accent, without the slightest hint of an English / American accent, springs up. On the other hand, how can they both assert that they were adopted in a legal way and without cheating when they did not even know how to read, let alone have a vote in the matter? Of course they were instructed to say in the video what was dictated to them by the bishop.
https://www.n-tv.pt/acontece/investigacao-tvi-netos-de-edir-macedo-nao-fomos-raptados-fomos-adotados-com-video/

In my opinion, no one in Brazil would have given a blonde child a second glance ... and thanks to the TVI research it now seems there was an established trafficking corridor already open at the time of Madeleine's disappearance.

https://blackwomenofbrazil.co/2013/02/21/neymars-blond-ambition-and-the-question-of-racism-identity-and-marketability-of-black-public-figures/

[Lace]

No straw too small to clutch it would seem.

So you know diffent too do you?    It's amazing how ordinary people can know a lot more than trained detectives.

[jassi]

So you know diffent too do you?    It's amazing how ordinary people can know a lot more than trained detectives.

Continue to clutch if it makes you happy.

[ShiningInLuz]

1) I don't care what the thread name is.  That will be picked by someone other than me.

2) I have already written about this news on my blog.

3) There are substantiated and unsubstantiated pieces of information on this floating about here like confetti, but hidden under 'wandering off topic".

[sadie]

Don't know Sadie.
IURD appear to be some sort of religious sect or church.  I've never heard of them before.  They are contesting what TVI are saying about them in these ten programmes by demanding the 'right of reply'.

I think that in itself is odd.
If TVI have got it so drastically wrong in their research and allegation ... why that demand?  Why not get an injunction to prevent broadcast until the legal situation is sorted out?

Maybe that will come later.

It is interesting though.

Hmmm? 

Very interesting. 

Perhaps they don't want it to go through the Courts of Law?  Now why would that be ?

[sadie]

Meantime in Portugal the discussion concerning the alleged child kidnapping ring continues apace.

Research TVI. Grandchildren of Edir Macedo: "We were not kidnapped, we were adopted" [with video]
https://www.n-tv.pt/acontece/investigacao-tvi-netos-de-edir-macedo-nao-fomos-raptados-fomos-adotados-com-video/

With a pertinent observation in one comment

Alcides Costa
Depois de ouvir os dois "adoptados" a viver numa família americana há 20 anos, salta à vista o excelente ortuguês falado com sotaque brasileiro, sem o menor indício de sotaque inglês /americano. Por outro lado, como é que os dois podem afirmar peremptoriamente que foram adoptados de forma legal e sem trafulhices quando nem sequer sabiam ler, quanto mais terem voto na matéria? Naturalmente foram instruídos para dizerem no vídeo o que lhes foi ditado pelo bispo.

Alcides Costa
After hearing the two "adoptees" living in an American family 20 years ago, the excellent Portuguese spoken with a Brazilian accent, without the slightest hint of an English / American accent, springs up. On the other hand, how can they both assert that they were adopted in a legal way and without cheating when they did not even know how to read, let alone have a vote in the matter? Of course they were instructed to say in the video what was dictated to them by the bishop.
https://www.n-tv.pt/acontece/investigacao-tvi-netos-de-edir-macedo-nao-fomos-raptados-fomos-adotados-com-video/

In my opinion, no one in Brazil would have given a blonde child a second glance ... and thanks to the TVI research it now seems there was an established trafficking corridor already open at the time of Madeleine's disappearance.

https://blackwomenofbrazil.co/2013/02/21/neymars-blond-ambition-and-the-question-of-racism-identity-and-marketability-of-black-public-figures/

Whoo hoo

What an interesting observation.  Well spotted Brietta