What evidence is there that the initial investigation was not fit for purpose

[Mr Gray]

In view of this statement...

ANTONIO MARINHO PINTO: (translated) I’m convinced the McCann case will feature in Portuguese judicial history as a bad example. What a criminal investigation should not be.

what are posters views

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[slartibartfast]

In view of this statement...

ANTONIO MARINHO PINTO: (translated) I’m convinced the McCann case will feature in Portuguese judicial history as a bad example. What a criminal investigation should not be.

what are posters views

His statement covers the entire case.

[Mr Gray]

His statement covers the entire case.

so you dont disagree with it...Im trying to find out when it was made...there is a reference to it in 2013...so its clear he was referring to the portugues investigation

[Robittybob1]

so you dont disagree with it...Im trying to find out when it was made...there is a reference to it in 2013...so its clear he was referring to the portugues investigation

I was going to say when was that said and what importance has he?

[Mr Gray]

I was going to say when was that said and what importance has he?

He was a lawyer and head of the Portuguese Bar associaltion when he made the statement...on that basis I find it quite damning...im not anti portuguese....I think the Colin Stagg investigation was a digrace too..

[G-Unit]

He was a lawyer and head of the Portuguese Bar associaltion when he made the statement...on that basis I find it quite damning...im not anti portuguese....I think the Colin Stagg investigation was a digrace too..

A bit lacking in efficiency however. He was supposed to be a witness for the McCanns in the libel trial. Then he decided he wouldn't appear, he would submit a written statement instead. Then he said no, he would appear after all. Then he said he wanted to submit a written statement, but he had run out of time to change his mind again. It was left to Duarte to get him to court to testify, but I don't think he ever did.

What on earth was all that about?
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=2335.msg76426#msg76426

[Mr Gray]

A bit lacking in efficiency however. He was supposed to be a witness for the McCanns in the libel trial. Then he decided he wouldn't appear, he would submit a written statement instead. Then he said no, he would appear after all. Then he said he wanted to submit a written statement, but he had run out of time to change his mind again. It was left to Duarte to get him to court to testify, but I don't think he ever did.

What on earth was all that about?
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=2335.msg76426#msg76426

Probably wanted to appear but a very busy man...the fact that he changed his mind may well have been due to the many last minute delays in the trial caused by amaral......may not have changed his mind at all...just unable to attend due to other committments...imo

[G-Unit]

Probably wanted to appear but a very busy man...the fact that he changed his mind may well have been due to the many last minute delays in the trial caused by amaral......may not have changed his mind at all...just unable to attend due to other committments...imo

Too busy even to submit a written statement?

I think the Portuguese authorities worked very hard on this case and have been treated very badly by Madeleine's parents and the UK media.

[Alice Purjorick]

He was a lawyer and head of the Portuguese Bar associaltion when he made the statement...on that basis I find it quite damning...im not anti portuguese....I think the Colin Stagg investigation was a digrace too..

With a reputation and track record for courting controversy.

[Mr Gray]

With a reputation and track record for courting controversy.

do you have a cite for that...is it opinion or fact

[Alice Purjorick]

Too busy even to submit a written statement?

I think the Portuguese authorities worked very hard on this case and have been treated very badly by Madeleine's parents and the UK media.

"Libel trial McCann v Gonçalo Amaral - Day 4 Witness No1

20.09.2013 10am. The session starts with a request from the defence concerning a plaintive witness, the President of the Bar Association (bastonário da ordem dos advogados) since 2008, António Marinho Pinto (MP) who was supposed to give evidence this afternoon.

MP was cited as a witness in the libel writ but in January 2012 determined that he would submit a written statement, which was his privilege as bastonário. He was however obliged to inform the Court of his intentions.
On the 20th January 2013, MP declared his wish to waive his right to make a written submission and declared that he would be present to testify in the court room.

At the last minute, MP let the lawyer for the plaintive, Isabel Duarte (ID), know that he had changed his mind. He now wished to deposit a written statement on the basis of his privilege. This change would bring his written statement late to the proceedings and would not afford the defence an opportunity to properly consider his evidence or to put questions to him regarding same.
The judge said MP should have revealed his intention during the 10 legal days so lost his right because he didn't do so. It now falls to the lawyer for the plaintive to ensure that MP appears personally in order to be examined in the final allegations session".

[Mr Gray]

Too busy even to submit a written statement?

I think the Portuguese authorities worked very hard on this case and have been treated very badly by Madeleine's parents and the UK media.

no he may well have intended to appear but due to the continual last minute cancellations caused by amaral was unable to do so...imo

[G-Unit]

no he may well have intended to appear but due to the continual last minute cancellations caused by amaral was unable to do so...imo

We can discuss that if you wish. Which cancellations are you referring to? Did they occur during his 'I will - no I won't' performance?

[Mr Gray]

We can discuss that if you wish. Which cancellations are you referring to? Did they occur during his 'I will - no I won't' performance?

unless we know we cannot answer the question...multiple cancellations...im sure you remember them

[Eleanor]

unless we know we cannot answer the question...multiple cancellations...im sure you remember them

What Multiple Cancellations?  In your opinion?