Have we learnt anything from the Maddie case?

[Mr Gray]

Unfortunately for some like yourself, much of it is now public knowledge thanks to several Portuguese lawyers, one of whom couldn't help himself, and of-course the men from Delmonte whom the McCanns and their fellow funders tried to gag. 

Now why would the parents of a missinig child want to gag anyone?   

what you are referring to is a confidentiality clause in many employment contracts...its quite normal to stop ex employees selling salacious stories to the press...which is exactly what this employee tried to do....fortunately...as I predicted on this forum when everyone disagreed....the MCcanns would sue   ...they did and the times paid up..

as for your claim re perverting the cause of justice...the evidence just isnt there ...imo

[Mr Gray]

US; the medical examiner’s office in New York City......is the only public lab in the United States that uses low copy number DNA to develop profiles for use in criminal cases.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/27/science/dna-under-the-scope-and-a-forensic-tool-under-a-cloud.html

so its used in the US ...and in australia and sweeden

[Mr Gray]

The gist of The FSS stuff by Mr Lowe was "It doesn't rule anything in nor does it rule anything out"
Anything beyond that is speculation.

so totally useless as evidence...next

[Robittybob1]

The gist of The FSS stuff by Mr Lowe was "It doesn't rule anything in nor does it rule anything out"
Anything beyond that is speculation.

But there was DNA found.  Albeit a mixture of 3 persons.

[Brietta]

But there was DNA found.  Albeit a mixture of 3 persons.

None of whom were Madeleine.

[G-Unit]

None of whom were Madeleine.

That isn't a factual statement, it's an opinion which is probably wrong.

Inconclusive results indicate that DNA testing did not produce information that would allow an individual to be either included or excluded as the source of the biological evidence....... The suspect cannot be excluded as a possible donor of the DNA found in the evidence sample, but a more conclusive result may not be possible. These cases must be reported as inconclusive.
https://ojp.gov/ovc/publications/bulletins/dna_4_2001/dna8_4_01.html

[Mr Gray]

That isn't a factual statement, it's an opinion which is probably wrong.

Inconclusive results indicate that DNA testing did not produce information that would allow an individual to be either included or excluded as the source of the biological evidence....... The suspect cannot be excluded as a possible donor of the DNA found in the evidence sample, but a more conclusive result may not be possible. These cases must be reported as inconclusive.
https://ojp.gov/ovc/publications/bulletins/dna_4_2001/dna8_4_01.html

so it isnt probably wrong...so your statement is not a factual statement...it may be right or it may be wrong...surely if it was Maddies dna then all the alleles would have been found

[Brietta]

That isn't a factual statement, it's an opinion which is probably wrong.

Inconclusive results indicate that DNA testing did not produce information that would allow an individual to be either included or excluded as the source of the biological evidence....... The suspect cannot be excluded as a possible donor of the DNA found in the evidence sample, but a more conclusive result may not be possible. These cases must be reported as inconclusive.
https://ojp.gov/ovc/publications/bulletins/dna_4_2001/dna8_4_01.html

Please stop over egging the pudding and when discussing Madeleine's DNA refer only to the testing carried out on the actual forensic samples recovered in Praia da Luz and the results of the testing carried out.

In my opinion the above 'cite'  is yet another obfuscation ... as if there wasn't sufficient myth and myopia already introduced to Madeleine's case.

[faithlilly]

Please stop over egging the pudding and when discussing Madeleine's DNA refer only to the testing carried out on the actual forensic samples recovered in Praia da Luz and the results of the testing carried out.

In my opinion the above 'cite'  is yet another obfuscation ... as if there wasn't sufficient myth and myopia already introduced to Madeleine's case.

Perhaps you would like to provide a cite which states that testing on the mixture of DNA collected excluded Madeleine as a possible donor ?

[Mr Gray]

That isn't a factual statement, it's an opinion which is probably wrong.

Inconclusive results indicate that DNA testing did not produce information that would allow an individual to be either included or excluded as the source of the biological evidence....... The suspect cannot be excluded as a possible donor of the DNA found in the evidence sample, but a more conclusive result may not be possible. These cases must be reported as inconclusive.
https://ojp.gov/ovc/publications/bulletins/dna_4_2001/dna8_4_01.html

It may be quite possible that Elvis cannot be excluded...which puts your claim into perspective

[faithlilly]

It may be quite possible that Elvis cannot be excluded...which puts your claim into perspective

So was there any of Elvis's DNA in the samples collected in Luz because it is certainly possible that there was from Madeleine.

[Brietta]

Perhaps you would like to provide a cite which states that testing on the mixture of DNA collected excluded Madeleine as a possible donor ?

Can one cite a negative?  You might find it easier to cite the positive.

[Brietta]

So was there any of Elvis's DNA in the samples collected in Luz because it is certainly possible that there was from Madeleine.

Madeleine was there it would hardly be surprising were her DNA to be found somewhere.  They did look ... where was it they found it?

[faithlilly]

Can one cite a negative?  You might find it easier to cite the positive.

Surely if Madeleine had been categorically excluded as a donor of the DNA collected the forensic report would have said so.  Kindly provide the proof or withdraw you claim.

[faithlilly]

Madeleine was there it would hardly be surprising were her DNA to be found somewhere.  They did look ... where was it they found it?

It wouldn't be surprising that her DNA was found however what is surprising is the venom with which supporters attack anyone who posts that fact.