Have we learnt anything from the Maddie case?

[Brietta]

Myth #1 - Madeleine's DNA was found in the hire car

This is false on every level.  Madeleine's DNA was never identified as having been in the McCann hire car which was rented several weeks after the disappearance.

The Forensic Science Service in England (now defunct) offered their services to the Portuguese authorities in order that samples recovered from the McCann apartment and the hire car could be analysed.  A short time before the results were officially announced the Portuguese Press ran with a story that the DNA recovered from these samples matched with that associated with Madeleine McCann.  They were in error.

The official results disclosed no link between the samples and Madeleine McCann.

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=1209.msg33642#msg33642

[faithlilly]

Myth #1 - Madeleine's DNA was found in the hire car

This is false on every level.  Madeleine's DNA was never identified as having been in the McCann hire car which was rented several weeks after the disappearance.

The Forensic Science Service in England (now defunct) offered their services to the Portuguese authorities in order that samples recovered from the McCann apartment and the hire car could be analysed.  A short time before the results were officially announced the Portuguese Press ran with a story that the DNA recovered from these samples matched with that associated with Madeleine McCann.  They were in error.

The official results disclosed no link between the samples and Madeleine McCann.

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=1209.msg33642#msg33642

That's you cite, a post from John ?

Madeleine could not be excluded as a possible donor of the DNA found during the forensic sweep. That is simply a fact.

[Robittybob1]

None of whom were Madeleine.

The word they used was "inconclusive" which means to me at least they can't even rule her out as you have suggested.

[pathfinder73]

"Is there DNA from Madeline on the swab?"

It would be very simple to say "yes" simply because of the number of components within the result that are also in her reference sample.

Then a load of bollox about whether the match to Madeleine is genuine or by chance.

"The same applies to any result that is quoted as being too complex for meaningful inclusion/interpretation."

Too complex for the FSS to get a result is their conclusion. Maybe somebody else should have a go.

[John]

It is important to understand that finding Madeleine's DNA in the hire car might not have been significant as innocent transfer was highly likely.

[slartibartfast]

It wouldn't be surprising that her DNA was found however what is surprising is the venom with which supporters attack anyone who posts that fact.

Agreed.

[slartibartfast]

It is important to understand that finding Madeleine's DNA in the hire car might not have been significant as innocent transfer was highly likely.

So why is it attacked?

[Robittybob1]

So why is it attacked?

Because the swabs were taken from a location that innocent transfer would never have occurred.

[Mr Gray]

Because the swabs were taken from a location that innocent transfer would never have occurred.

which of course is incorrect......its been pointed out that Gerry wiped the cars interior with a wet cloth...and I have attacked nothing...just pointed out true facts. yet we have a leading sceptic...believed by many who claims as fact that madeleines blood was found in the boot...why cant all posters stick to the facts

[Mr Gray]

So was there any of Elvis's DNA in the samples collected in Luz because it is certainly possible that there was from Madeleine.

It is also possible there was a complete match to elvis...has that been ruled out...no it hasnt. Im just showing the ridiculous nature of your argumant...imo

[Robittybob1]

which of course is incorrect......its been pointed out that Gerry wiped the cars interior with a wet cloth...and I have attacked nothing...just pointed out true facts. yet we have a leading sceptic...believed by many who claims as fact that madeleines blood was found in the boot...why cant all posters stick to the facts

Carana and I worked out where the samples were taken from (on the DNA thread) and it was from the underside of the plastic coated fabric (boot lining)  So wiping the boot with a damp cloth would not cause the DNA sample to get under the water proof covering.  There maybe no connection between Keela's alert and the position the swab was taken.
What I'm saying is fact.

[Mr Gray]

Carana and I worked out where the samples were taken from (on the DNA thread) and it was from the underside of the plastic coated fabric (boot lining)  So wiping the boot with a damp cloth would not cause the DNA sample to get under the water proof covering.  There maybe no connection between Keela's alert and the position the swab was taken.
What I'm saying is fact.

what you are sying is that you and carana worked out where you thought  the swab was taken from...that is fact...whether you are correct is not fact but opinion. Lets seperate fact from opinion

[Robittybob1]

It is also possible there was a complete match to elvis...has that been ruled out...no it hasnt. Im just showing the ridiculous nature of your argumant...imo

Please bring the argument back to sensible arguments please.

[Mr Gray]

Please bring the argument back to sensible arguments please.

what have said that is not sensible....in your opinion...I am stating a fact to show the significance that the report does not rule maddie

[Mr Gray]

Carana and I worked out where the samples were taken from (on the DNA thread) and it was from the underside of the plastic coated fabric (boot lining)  So wiping the boot with a damp cloth would not cause the DNA sample to get under the water proof covering.  There maybe no connection between Keela's alert and the position the swab was taken.
What I'm saying is fact.

if you claim it is fact could you provide  link to the posts..a cite is required  .....im quite sceptical