Abduction

[Alice Purjorick]

It would be a matter of studying the particular "Italian style" rim lock in use at Ocean Club Gardens.  You would need to work out how to stop the latch bolt deadlock plunger moving at the same time as the latch bolt.
Modification is a possibility. as well as lack of lubrication.

Cite:  http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/TRANSLATIONS.htm  look for 5.A. former occupants.

You don't say? well fancy that.

[Mr Gray]

The drapes I could maybe stretch a point for but the child gate ?
It presupposes he /she knew in advance exit through the front was on if he went in through the back.
Anyway back to the plot; it does not materially affect the comments:
Man with picklocks or key.
Or man up through patio doors and out the back/front.
They are your remaining options faites vos jeux
Having made your choice have a bash at what happens "downstream"

aS I said alice..its like watching  magician on TV....what happen seems impossible...bit when you see how its done...its very simple

[Robittybob1]

You don't say? well fancy that.

That is the way its done.

[Carana]

Trying to remember info about the assaults (smellyman & possibly other persons) first.

There's this to start with.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2611146/BREAKING-NEWS-Police-investigate-claims-five-British-girls-sexually-assaulted-Algarve-lone-intruder-hunt-smelly-pot-bellied-Madeleine-McCann-suspect.html

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-27122951


https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/mar/19/madeleine-mccann-police-intruder-girls-algarve

[Alice Purjorick]

aS I said alice..its like watching  magician on TV....what happen seems impossible...bit when you see how its done...its very simple

In that case you can tell us how.

[Alice Purjorick]

That is the way its done.

So what modification was made to this lock then? I presume you have checked against the comics that such a modification as in your mind could be effected?

[Mr Gray]

In that case you can tell us how.

we would have to ask Penn and Teller

[slartibartfast]

we would have to ask Penn and Teller

More Tommy Cooper.

[Mr Gray]

More Tommy Cooper.

if you think that you dont understand the serious point I am making...imo

[Mr Gray]

In that case you can tell us how.

I have already made the point today when g could not understand how the dna from 3 poeple could arrive at one small point......the explanation I gave re the clot to wipe was a very simple solution. it then turned out that Gerry gave an account of using a wet cloth to clean inside the car

[slartibartfast]

if you think that you dont understand the serious point I am making...imo

I understand what you are doing.

[Mr Gray]

I understand what you are doing.

Then you would understand that penn and teller have  a tv programe where they explain how the seemingly impossible is...possible.....so tommy cooper has no relevance

[Alice Purjorick]

we would have to ask Penn and Teller

And now my Lords Ladies and Gentlemen for your further enjoyment and delight, nay delectation, a veritable cornucopia of pressdeedidgitayshun prestidigitation [I never could spell that bleedin’word] illustrating how with panache and elan some geezer a man of dishonour effected entrance into a bijou residence having  but two portals. Said unworthy being of evil intent.

Now I thought you were hot on evidence?

For there to have been abduction the subject and object must occupy the same space and time.
To satisfy that condition in our discussion either the object left the building or the subject entered the building.
The consideration is “the how” could that be effected and still satisfy certain criteria.

At this point any incident investigator worth his salt would be listing evidence to support the existence of each cause in order to determine if each set of causes is sufficient and necessary to cause the effect.

p.s I am not an accountant…
















 

[Mr Gray]

And now my Lords Ladies and Gentlemen for your further enjoyment and delight, nay delectation, a veritable cornucopia of pressdeedidgitayshun prestidigitation [I never could spell that bleedin’word] illustrating how with panache and elan some geezer a man of dishonour effected entrance into a bijou residence having  but two portals. Said unworthy being of evil intent.

Now I thought you were hot on evidence?

For there to have been abduction the subject and object must occupy the same space and time.
To satisfy that condition in our discussion either the object left the building or the subject entered the building.
The consideration is “the how” could that be effected and still satisfy certain criteria.

At this point any incident investigator worth his salt would be listing evidence to support the existence of each cause in order to determine if each set of causes is sufficient and necessary to cause the effect.

p.s I am not an accountant…

madeleine is missing....the chances of the parents being involved is so small it approaches zero....w and w is highly unlikely according to those who ahve more information than you....or me......that leaves abduction. An expert,,,who visited the site said an abductor could have been in and out in 1 minute...SY beleive its possible....thats the state of play..

and im not a dental technician

[Mr Gray]

I understand what you are doing.

thats your opinion...remember forum rules...imo you do not understand