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Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Who should lead JB's defence at his third appeal hearing?
« Reply #75 on: April 12, 2018, 11:36:30 AM »
A half-decent criminal defence lawyer will know lay witnesses can be unreliable for a whole host of reasons.  They will know a few cops are bent for a whole host of reasons and some are incompetent and negligent.  The same applies to expert witnesses.  It's up to defence lawyers to expose the truth warts and all.  MTQC failed to do so (as did Rivlin at trial) with the appeal court judges commenting:

Conclusion 512. Having considered and rejected each of the grounds advanced on behalf of the appellant, it follows that this appeal must be dismissed. Each member of the court has reached the conclusion that there is nothing in any of the matters raised before us that throws doubt upon the safety of these convictions.

IMO those that believe JB innocent and understand the case will not single out JM, the relatives, DS Jones et al as being responsible but understand the defence lawyers were simply incompetent and negligent. 


Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Who should lead JB's defence at his third appeal hearing?
« Reply #76 on: April 12, 2018, 12:10:55 PM »
That's an assumption on your part. You do not know what he would have done had the evidence been brought forward. You are criticising him for not challening evidence that he prevented from getting to the stage of being challenged in the first place.

Lets forget MI's testimony.  MT QC should have raised SC being moved between A/PS Woodcock's observations contained in his WS and DC Bird's soc images.  SC was clearly moved between approx 7.30am - 10.30am.  Do you not understand it was a viable defence point for the prosecution to be challenged on not vice-versa?!

He hired Dr Lloyd to establish just that. How can he be oblivious to it?

Dr Lloyd was a chemist not a ballistics expert.  Some simple research shows MT QC failed to grasp the basics, instruct the right expert and arrange the appropriate tests.

We have all done that.

Done all what? 

Replacing a blood stained phone with a clean phone is actually in the realm of possibility however albeit improbable. Someone walking around with their brains mashed by multiple gunshot wounds to the head is not possible at all. You have done the exact same thing but to a much greater extent. So your criticism and quibbling's are rather unjust and puerile.

I mooted an ill-conceived idea about June walking around the bed with all gsw's incl those to her head.  It was a belief I held for about 4 weeks until I checked it out with a retired pathologist of long experience who showed me the errors of my ways.  At this point it was promptly dropped.  This shows I'm flexi and fluid unlike you and your theories whereby you seize on something and stick to it rigidly even when other evidence comes to light showing your theory is wrong. 

MT QC's claims that DCI Ainsley used the kitchen phone to make a phone call while at the same time inadvertently removing blood from NB's gsw's shows he has totally failed to understand the case:

- pathological evidence shows NB could not engage in purposeful speech having sustained the 2 facial gsw's upstairs
- the soc supports NB sustaining his gsw's on landing with perp (SC IMO) inside the main bedroom ie NB made the phone call to JB before he sustained any gsw's.  The upstairs gsw's can be supported by bloodstains to carpet and lack of, casings, distance of shots, trajectories and wound tracks.

Furthermore the CCRC announced its referral in March of 2001 and MT was hired by Ewen Smith around July 2001 then the appeal hearing started in October of 2002. So that's just over a year divided by whatever his caseload was, to prepare for the hearing. Needless to say there is a lot to go through. Furthermore Owen Smith said several month before the appeal started, that It was not possible to adequately go through all the case material given the time frame and the resources available. But I am sure you took all this into consideration prior to coming to the conclusion that he should be sacked for "gross incompetence and negligence" and that "he didn't have a clue".

I think it's called case management.  If justice is denied because QC's are unable to manage their time and resources that's worrying.
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Nicholas

Re: Who should lead JB's defence at his third appeal hearing?
« Reply #77 on: April 12, 2018, 12:36:10 PM »
A half-decent criminal defence lawyer will know lay witnesses can be unreliable for a whole host of reasons.  They will know a few cops are bent for a whole host of reasons and some are incompetent and negligent.  The same applies to expert witnesses.  It's up to defence lawyers to expose the truth warts and all.  MTQC failed to do so (as did Rivlin at trial) with the appeal court judges commenting:

Conclusion 512. Having considered and rejected each of the grounds advanced on behalf of the appellant, it follows that this appeal must be dismissed. Each member of the court has reached the conclusion that there is nothing in any of the matters raised before us that throws doubt upon the safety of these convictions.

IMO those that believe JB innocent and understand the case will not single out JM, the relatives, DS Jones et al as being responsible but understand the defence lawyers were simply incompetent and negligent.

Would your observations also apply to the criminal in question? Would Jeremy Bamber know, for example, that lay witnesses can be unreliable etc etc?
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Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Who should lead JB's defence at his third appeal hearing?
« Reply #78 on: April 12, 2018, 12:51:20 PM »
For some reason I cannot use the standard attach feature. Says I need moderators permission. Not a problem. Its attached within the post as image hosted on the web.

Dr V TFG, Dr V view he looked at in relation to other matter. if you go to PM.S5. 25c. this is something Dr V looked at, go back to page 8 and he had an opinion on. (quote from). The issue was in our submissions very much looked at in this vain at trial

The Judges were not satisfied it was not available. And? Reading further down Justice Wright argues that it could be fresh evidence because Vanezis is a doctor and not a scientist LOL

Where did the doc go?  I will find a way for it to be uploaded again. 

MT QC, 3 appeal judges and MI are clearly oblivious to A/PS Woodcock's WS which clearly proves SC was moved between 7.30am - 10.30am.  Therefore the inference, based on MI's testimony alone, is that JB moved SC.  This was not brought up at trial probably because the prosecution was a bit smarter than the defence and realised SC was moved between approx 7.30am - 10.30am. 

My interpretation of LJH's comments is that Dr V's testimony was not admitted because it amounted to evidence that could have been adjudicated on at trial and/or it involved bloodstain analysis which could have been adjudicated on at trial. 

I only read the doc quickly and would like to read it again.  In any event I think there's some conflating here:

- potential movement SC could have made voluntarily between her 2 gsw's
- movement SC could not have made voluntarily post 2nd immediately fatal gsw.

The first was adjudicated on at trial with testimony from Dr Vanezis and Prof Knight.  The latter was raised at appeal by the prosecution as all concerned were clearly oblivious to A/PS Woodcock's WS showing SC was moved between approx 7.30am - 10.30am.

Have done numerous times. You remain entrenched, why waste my time again?

You haven't proposed your theory here only on Blue and IA.  I would like you to post it here to give others the opportunity to comment.


Your arguments to the contrary are

- Distefano edited the photo (despite other photos showing the same thing)

- Dr Craig never said anything (despite not examining the body)

- Vanezis never said anything (despite not giving a TOD in his examination)

- Knight never said anything (despite not being asked and believes anything is possible so no point asking him anyway)

- a skewed interpretation of "anytime the previous night" (from someone who never closely examine the body)

I don't believe you can deduce a tod for SC and this seems to be the opinion of Prof Knight who is well qualified and of long experience who also took a particular interest in TOD.  Soc images were examined by 2 highly experienced pathologists of long experience with unblemished reputations.  Numerous police officers observed witnesses in situ incl the police surgeon.  No one, I repeat no one, at any time has suggested SC looked different from other victims in terms of LM/RM.  The info you've posted is unconvincing.  Why not share your ideas here and see what others think?

I will admit my points are open to challenge but the above does not convince me of anything. So until you find something else, not much point debating.

Oh David don't be such a spoil sport.

Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline John

Re: Who should lead JB's defence at his third appeal hearing?
« Reply #79 on: April 12, 2018, 01:52:29 PM »
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A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
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david1819

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Re: Who should lead JB's defence at his third appeal hearing?
« Reply #80 on: April 12, 2018, 04:40:09 PM »
Holly.

Considering the amount of QCs and lawyers Jeremy has hired and fired in the last 30 years. MTQC is the only one who Jeremy has sought help from a second time round. And it was not JBs decision or intention to part with him after the failed 2002 appeal in the first place. MTQC left JB because he refused to work alongside GDS.

Furthermore JB does not blame MTQC for losing the appeal. Sympathetic to his efforts at the appeal JB descibes MTQC as being "buried under a snowstorm of case material" So is this why you thought David Martin-Sperry should take the case based on his skiing ability?

Anyway I honestly do think you are being nasty and catty towards the guy because he blocked you from emailing him. Your long winded expressions of disapproval and fault finding filled with bitter undertones all began within the last 12 months or so. You were never so critical prior and hardly spoke about him despite being familiar with the appeal and his role in the case. So something must have provoked this and I believe its that.

Of course I could be wrong and you may have no ill feelings towards him at all. But you are sure making it look way.
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Who should lead JB's defence at his third appeal hearing?
« Reply #81 on: April 12, 2018, 09:16:27 PM »
Holly.

Considering the amount of QCs and lawyers Jeremy has hired and fired in the last 30 years. MTQC is the only one who Jeremy has sought help from a second time round. And it was not JBs decision or intention to part with him after the failed 2002 appeal in the first place. MTQC left JB because he refused to work alongside GDS.

Furthermore JB does not blame MTQC for losing the appeal. Sympathetic to his efforts at the appeal JB descibes MTQC as being "buried under a snowstorm of case material" So is this why you thought David Martin-Sperry should take the case based on his skiing ability?


Anyway I honestly do think you are being nasty and catty towards the guy because he blocked you from emailing him. Your long winded expressions of disapproval and fault finding filled with bitter undertones all began within the last 12 months or so. You were never so critical prior and hardly spoke about him despite being familiar with the appeal and his role in the case. So something must have provoked this and I believe its that.

Of course I could be wrong and you may have no ill feelings towards him at all. But you are sure making it look way.

Exactly how many legal people has he hired and fired these past 3 decades?

You don't honestly believe Bamber's excuse as to why MTQC lost the appeal do you? B

BAMBER lost his appeal - not his barrister.

It's high time he starting taking responsibility for his owns actions. Bamber knows the system inside out. You are foolish to think otherwise.

You've seen how quick LM has sifted through all the material he's needed to form his opinions; do you honestly think a barrister (and their teams of eager beavers) don't work at high speed or quicker?
« Last Edit: April 14, 2018, 11:56:58 AM by Holly Goodhead »
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Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Who should lead JB's defence at his third appeal hearing?
« Reply #82 on: April 13, 2018, 02:12:43 PM »
Holly.

Considering the amount of QCs and lawyers Jeremy has hired and fired in the last 30 years. MTQC is the only one who Jeremy has sought help from a second time round. And it was not JBs decision or intention to part with him after the failed 2002 appeal in the first place. MTQC left JB because he refused to work alongside GDS.

So effectively JB chose GDS, a bogus lawyer and convicted criminal, over MT QC?

Furthermore JB does not blame MTQC for losing the appeal. Sympathetic to his efforts at the appeal JB descibes MTQC as being "buried under a snowstorm of case material" So is this why you thought David Martin-Sperry should take the case based on his skiing ability?

I've repeatedly said IMO JB has a poor understanding of his case so the fact he's oblivious to how poor his defence was at trial and appeal is hardly surprising.

"Buried under a snowstorm of case material" is an occupational hazard for lawyers.  A half decent one will quickly sift the relevant from the "snowstorm of case material".

Comparing the web profiles of DMS and MT, DMS sounds more capable IMO. 

Anyway I honestly do think you are being nasty and catty towards the guy because he blocked you from emailing him. Your long winded expressions of disapproval and fault finding filled with bitter undertones all began within the last 12 months or so. You were never so critical prior and hardly spoke about him despite being familiar with the appeal and his role in the case. So something must have provoked this and I believe its that.

Of course I could be wrong and you may have no ill feelings towards him at all. But you are sure making it look way.

You can honestly think what you like.  I note your ref to "catty" again which IMO is rather sexist.  It implies my reasons for criticising MT are emotionally driven rather than evidence driven.  If a male criticised MT would you refer to him as "catty"?  Do I refer to you as "catty" when you refer to Dr Craig as an incompetent drunk and/or accuse Dr Vanezis of lying under oath? 

If my posts criticising MT upset your sensibilities then I suggest you stop reading my posts because I'm not going to stop criticising him where I think it's justified. 

My criticism of him coincided with having a better understanding of the case and speaking with numerous experts who reinforced my views. 

Afaik I'm about the only 'supporter' who has been very critical of the judiciary: lawyers, trial judge and appeal judges.  On IA I recall entering into a rather lengthy and heated mass debating session with Clive Wismayer about Kingsley Napley, PT, GR and EL.  I would go as far as saying any 'supporter' who disagrees doesn't understand the case against JB. 

Here are some of my historic posts that I could easily locate but there are many more:

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,2720.msg88969.html#msg88969

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,4048.msg166820.html#msg166820

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=292.msg134974#msg134974

http://www.injusticeanywhereforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=123&t=2931&start=5200#p181833
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline adam

Re: Who should lead JB's defence at his third appeal hearing?
« Reply #83 on: April 13, 2018, 04:01:21 PM »
You are his current lawyers ?

david1819

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Re: Who should lead JB's defence at his third appeal hearing?
« Reply #84 on: April 13, 2018, 10:45:07 PM »
So effectively JB chose GDS, a bogus lawyer and convicted criminal, over MT QC?


This was long before GDS was exposed and shorty after his high profile successes in the Van-Hoogstraten and Goldfinger case. People like GDS know how to present themselves. Without hindsight how can't really blame people for seeking his services.

I've repeatedly said IMO JB has a poor understanding of his case so the fact he's oblivious to how poor his defence was at trial and appeal is hardly surprising.

"Buried under a snowstorm of case material" is an occupational hazard for lawyers.  A half decent one will quickly sift the relevant from the "snowstorm of case material".

Comparing the web profiles of DMS and MT, DMS sounds more capable IMO. 


Comparing web profiles? LOL

Whoever represents JB at the appellate court in the future will be instructed to do so via JBs solicitor acting on instructions from JB. So long as that barrister that is instructed agrees to take the case.

Furthermore JB has no money. Like in 2002 legal aid will only get him a Junior Barrister that has recently taken the silk (Like MT was in 2002) So if a now highly experienced QC already familiar with the case is prepared to go pro bono. JB would be mad to refuse and thus end up with someone inexperienced unseasoned like in 2002. With legal aid even more restrained than ever, I dread to think.

So unless you are prepared to fork out the money. Looking at fancy "web profiles" is merely window shopping.

You can honestly think what you like.  I note your ref to "catty" again which IMO is rather sexist.  It implies my reasons for criticising MT are emotionally driven rather than evidence driven.  If a male criticised MT would you refer to him as "catty"?  Do I refer to you as "catty" when you refer to Dr Craig as an incompetent drunk and/or accuse Dr Vanezis of lying under oath? 

If my posts criticising MT upset your sensibilities then I suggest you stop reading my posts because I'm not going to stop criticising him where I think it's justified. 

My criticism of him coincided with having a better understanding of the case and speaking with numerous experts who reinforced my views. 


If your posts are not emotionally driven then you wont be stubbornly going round in circles despite shown evidence to the contrary. On a subject that untimatley acheive nothing whatsoever to advance the case.


Afaik I'm about the only 'supporter' who has been very critical of the judiciary: lawyers, trial judge and appeal judges.  On IA I recall entering into a rather lengthy and heated mass debating session with Clive Wismayer about Kingsley Napley, PT, GR and EL.

It does not achieve anything. Unless you are compiling a case for inffective assistance at council at trial. To criticize-in-hindsight wont change anything. Unless you are building a time machine.
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Who should lead JB's defence at his third appeal hearing?
« Reply #85 on: April 14, 2018, 09:11:35 AM »

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You will come to learn you've been conned by a mass murderer

You made a false claim about your "forensic evidence breakthrough." 

You stated:
"Lying and trolling is problem for any internet forum. Justified and legitimate exposé of such behaviour should be allowed. If this forum allows people to lie and troll then it should be permitted for posters to freely point out and condemn such behaviour. You cannot properly debate with someone who is lying if you are not allowed to point out they are indeed lying. The current standpoint taken by the moderators is IMO counter productive.

Following the exchanges yesterday on the topic "A Tentative Sheila-As-Killer Scenario"

Can we please have a revision of this policy to remove the lack of ambiguity?

Accusation or allegation of a poster as a liar is one thing. Exposing and making it known that a poster is indeed a lair is another. The latter does not strictly break the rule above. Yet it is considered as doing such.

I have in the past pointed out people as lying and deliberately misleading. Nevertheless my posts in doing so were removed.


This is EXACTLY how Jeremy Bamber has behaved over the years David. And many of us have recognised this fact. He's hidden away or pleaded with others to cover up his wrong doings. Attempted to sweep things under the carpet and carry on regardless and thinks no one will notice his discrepancies.
« Last Edit: April 14, 2018, 12:00:56 PM by Holly Goodhead »
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Who should lead JB's defence at his third appeal hearing?
« Reply #86 on: April 14, 2018, 09:31:26 AM »
This was long before GDS was exposed and shorty after his high profile successes in the Van-Hoogstraten and Goldfinger case. People like GDS know how to present themselves. Without hindsight how can't really blame people for seeking his services. So do people like Jeremy Bamber!

Comparing web profiles? LOL

Whoever represents JB at the appellate court in the future will be instructed to do so via JBs solicitor acting on instructions from JB. So long as that barrister that is instructed agrees to take the case. There won't be a third appeal. But for arguments sake, in the current climate, he could well be representing himself

Furthermore JB has no money. Like in 2002 legal aid will only get him a Junior Barrister that has recently taken the silk (Like MT was in 2002) So if a now highly experienced QC already familiar with the case is prepared to go pro bono. JB would be mad to refuse and thus end up with someone inexperienced unseasoned like in 2002. With legal aid even more restrained than ever, I dread to think. Is this what Bamber has told you?

So unless you are prepared to fork out the money. Looking at fancy "web profiles" is merely window shopping. in your opinion

If your posts are not emotionally driven then you wont be stubbornly going round in circles despite shown evidence to the contrary. On a subject that untimatley acheive nothing whatsoever to advance the case. This is what you are doing David

It does not achieve anything. Unless you are compiling a case for inffective assistance at council at trial To criticize-in-hindsight wont change anything. Unless you are building a time machine.
« Last Edit: April 14, 2018, 12:02:36 PM by Holly Goodhead »
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david1819

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Re: Who should lead JB's defence at his third appeal hearing?
« Reply #87 on: April 14, 2018, 10:53:17 AM »
Holly I have just searched for Martin-Sperry at the COA in the BAILII website.

BAILII only show a fraction of the appeal cases he has been involved with but of the 10 results I got. Seven of them were dismissed and only two were successful. The other COA case only came up in the search results because Martin-Sperry was the prosecutor as the appellants trial and that appeal was successful!

So it seems a kind smile and skiing qualifications are not the positive attributes they seem to be. 

How about this guy Stuart Martin? http://www.zenithchambers.co.uk/barristers/stuart-martin/family


No experience in criminal law it seems but so what if we don't bother looking? Not quite sure about his smile but he likes rugby, running and swimming. What do you think?

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Offline Nicholas

Re: Who should lead JB's defence at his third appeal hearing?
« Reply #88 on: April 14, 2018, 11:12:01 AM »
Holly I have just searched for Martin-Sperry at the COA in the BAILII website.

BAILII only show a fraction of the appeal cases he has been involved with but of the 10 results I got. Seven of them were dismissed and only two were successful. The other COA case only came up in the search results because Martin-Sperry was the prosecutor as the appellants trial and that appeal was successful!

So it seems a kind smile and skiing qualifications are not the positive attributes they seem to be.

How about this guy Stuart Martin? http://www.zenithchambers.co.uk/barristers/stuart-martin/family


No experience in criminal law it seems but so what if we don't bother looking? Not quite sure about his smile but he likes rugby, running and swimming. What do you think?


IMO Jeremy Bamber will be hard pressed to find decent representation full stop!

Who is Bambers current solicitor? Does he have one?

Is it this chap?

"I am delighted to endorse this comprehensive book on wrongful convictions. In its clear and concise terms it will help readers start to grasp hold of a system which is overly complex and stacked against those who have been wrongfully convicted. The book will help all those who have suffered an injustice to have direction as they continue to fight to clear their names.’ – Mark Newby, Solicitor Advocate, Jordans LLP, Doncaster
http://michaeljnaughton.com/?page_id=877


"WRONGLY ACCUSED: Show me a miscarriage of justice and, nine times out of 10, I will show you the blueprint that caused it, writes Eric Allison.
Eric Allison is the Guardian’s prison correspondent.
This essay will feature in a new collection of essays (No defence: miscarriages of justice and lawyers) as part of the Justice Gap series and following on from Wrongly Accused: who is responsible for investigating miscarriages of justice? (to be published in association with Solicitors Journal and Wilmington). You can download that collection HERE.
Contributors for No Defence include Eric Allison; Dr Ros Burnett; Prof Ed Cape; Dr Dennis Eady; Francis Fitzgibbon QC; Mark George QC; Andrew Green; Campbell Malone; Michael Mansfield QC; Mark Newby; Daniel Newman; Paul May; Dr Angus Nurse; Correna Platt; Julie Price; Dr Hannah Quirk; David Rose; Adam Sampson; Satish Sekar; and Tom Wainwright. Thanks to all.
‘Instead of closing the gap a huge chasm has just opened up right at the top of the system. It is a shocking and disgraceful manoeuvre by those who carry the core responsibility for maintaining and protecting the provision of justice… . This series of admirable essays has sought to identify and suggest remedies for those most disadvantaged by our judicial system.’
Michael Mansfield QC
__________________________________________

Eric Allison: Show me a miscarriage of justice and, nine times out of 10, I will show you the blueprint that caused it. There is a pattern, a template, in virtually all of these cases, made up of the following strands.

First: you have a defendant who has little or no knowledge of the criminal justice system – and, in many cases, a touching belief in the integrity of that system.
Two: investigating police officers who act as judge and jury, making up their minds they have the right person and going to great lengths to hamper the defence. Non-disclosure of evidence being the main obstacle they place in the path of truth.
Three: prejudicial pre-trial reports by the media. Jurors are told to ignore this, but I suggest this is asking too much of them, especially in high profile cases.
Four: poor legal representation. In every case I have studied, I have found glaring errors on the part of the defence lawyers. These include, failure to call witnesses, failure to seek full disclosure of evidence and a general lack of endeavour on the part of those chosen to lead defendants through the minefield of criminal trials. And, with cutbacks in legal aid biting deeper, this situation can only get worse.
Last, but not least, those wrongly convicted face a hostile, intractable, appeal system, with an appeal court seemingly concerned only with maintaining the status quo, that being, the validity of the original conviction. Their Lordships never being more unyielding than when confronted with the assertion that an appellant’s trial lawyers let him or her down. The wigged ones all feed from the same trough and few will question the abilities of another of their ilk.
Other factors go towards the likelihood of more and more innocent people being convicted.

Reasonable doubt
The introduction of majority verdicts, in 1967, was a dangerous step. Given it is for the prosecution to prove guilt; I would have thought two people, out of 12, not being satisfied with the Crown’s case, constituted reasonable doubt? Not so and many high profile alleged miscarriages were the subject of majority verdicts -notably Jeremy Bamber, found guilty on a 10 to two basis.

The law changed in 2003 to allow into evidence of a defendant’s convictions for previous offences. Prior to then, unless a defendant attacked the character of a prosecution witness, juries were kept in the dark about previous convictions the people in the dock had to their name. Easier for the prosecution to prove it’s case. But is it fair?  ‘Give a dog a bad name…’

Safety net
On paper, the Criminal Cases Review Commission (CCRC) provides a safety net for those floundering in the mire of a wrongful conviction. But the CCRC has disappointed those who hoped the establishment of such a body would deal swiftly and surely with miscarriages of justice.

In practice, the CCRC is under-resourced and seemingly unable to carry out the in-depth investigations required to uncover the truth when the justice system has got it wrong. Critics see them as gatekeepers to the court of appeal, trying to second guess how that tribunal will view the cases they refer, rather than the independent, fact finding, body hoped for.

Of all the alleged miscarriages of justice I have researched, the cases of Jeremy Bamber and Susan May stand out for two reasons: firstly, I have absolutely no doubt about their innocence and, secondly, they tick every box of the blueprint of how the system fails.

Both were people of hitherto good character, with no experience of the criminal justice system. If either had had one tenth of the knowledge of the law – and trial procedure – they have now, both would have walked free – of that I am certain. (Despite both falling victim to prejudicial pre-trial reporting and biased police investigations.)  Both have had their cases rejected by the court of appeal twice. Both have had their submissions rejected by the CCRC – though Susan’s case is now being reviewed again by that body.

I am convinced there are more miscarriages of justice now than at any time since I have been a student of the system-a study going back over half a century. I am personally aware of well over a hundred, serious, cases that scream out to be looked at again.
And I repeat, I believe the situation is set to worsen a) because of cut backs in legal aid and b) the massive increase in convictions for historical sexual offences.

The latter area concerns me greatly – in the current, post-Saville, climate, I expect the conviction rates for these offences to take a surge. And yet this is one area where greater care than ever ought to be taken in deciding guilt or innocence. Almost uniquely, as far as criminal trials are concerned, a defendant can be convicted on the uncorroborated word of the accuser. There are usually no witnesses to such crimes and, because of the passage of time, no forensic or medical evidence to support the allegations. It is one person’s word against another.

I have researched several convictions for historical sexual offences and, in some cases, my findings are deeply troubling. It is a murky world to peer into and any concern for the safety of such a conviction can be taken as having some sympathy for people deemed beyond the pale in the court of public opinion.

Questioning some of those convictions is to risk being accused of having no understanding of the awful trauma endured by victims of sexual abuse. But two wrongs never made a right and some things need to be said.
Consider this: Albany prison, on the Isle of Wight holds some 560 prisoners – virtually all sex-offenders, many convicted of historical offences. Around half of the population of Albany is in denial. This means they are not addressing their offending behaviour and not participating in treatment programmes. Because of their plea of innocence, they will never become eligible for parole. Many are serving extremely long sentences, so they count the difference in years and some will die in prison. They will not have their security classification downgraded – a move which invariably means better prison conditions – and, on their eventual release, will find their place on the sex offenders register coming under intense scrutiny.
 
Without doubt, some of these men will be in denial because they cannot come to terms with the offences they have committed. But over 250 of them, in one jail? Something is wrong.

Like many, I hoped, with the freeing of the Birmingham Six, Guildford Four et al and the setting up of the CCRC, we had seen the back of wholesale wrongful convictions. The ever burgeoning case file of alleged miscarriages of justice tells me the hope was in vain. We are back to where were before we thought: ‘This cannot happen again’.
http://www.thejusticegap.com/2013/03/im-convinced-there-are-more-miscarriages-of-justice-than-ever/
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Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

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Re: Who should lead JB's defence at his third appeal hearing?
« Reply #89 on: April 14, 2018, 12:08:49 PM »
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Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?