Is any of Arlindo's statement confirmed by anyone else?

[pathfinder73]

The reconstruction with Jane and Gerry showed no parked cars. Jez didn't see parked cars when crossing.

[Robittybob1]

The reconstruction with Jane and Gerry showed no parked cars. Jez didn't see parked cars when crossing.

Jez wasn't there at the reconstruction.

[sadie]

Going towards Baptista from the top road R Agostinho da Silva (name from memory) down R. FRANCISCO GENTIL MARTIN, which IS DEFINITELY THE CORRECT ROAD.  According to Jane, she walked that road in a northerly direction when she passed Gerry and Jez chatting. 

Furthermore R. FRANCISCO GENTIL MARTIN is the CORRECT road that the Carpenters crossed when they saw the two cars parked some metres south of 5A and about 6 metres north of Tapas Reception.  Within the constraints of that distance, one car had to have been partially across the alleyway in my opinion.

And Arlindo parked there too.   The above is all fact according to the statements.

[pathfinder73]

Jez wasn't there at the reconstruction.

But he did a few statements so please provide a cite where he says a car was parked on the road outside the apartment?

[pathfinder73]

Going towards Baptista from the top road R Agostinho da Silva (name from memory) down R. FRANCISCO GENTIL MARTIN, which IS DEFINITELY THE CORRECT ROAD.  According to Jane, she walked that road in a northerly direction when she passed Gerry and Jez chatting. 

Furthermore R. FRANCISCO GENTIL MARTIN is the CORRECT road that the Carpenters crossed when they saw the two cars parked some metres south of 5A and about 6 metres north of Tapas Reception.  Within the constraints of that distance, one car had to have been partially across the alleyway in my opinion.

And Arlindo parked there too.   The above is all fact according to the statements.

He said there was cars parked down towards Baptista. Jane never headed down when leaving the secondary reception she headed up so yet again my response was correct. That is the wrong direction.

[Angelo222]

I fail to see what parked cars have to do with Jane's as yet uncorroborated claim to have passed Gerry and Jez chatting by the side of the road.  Neither Jane or Gerry made any reference to parked cars while taking part in the TV documentary as far as I remember.

[pathfinder73]

Of course they didn't but Rob and Sadie think otherwise without any evidence.

[Robittybob1]

Of course they didn't but Rob and Sadie think otherwise without any evidence.

We have evidence so what does "think otherwise without any evidence" mean?

[pathfinder73]

Two witnesses did a reconstruction with no parked cars. Let's see your evidence from the third witness.

[Robittybob1]

Two witnesses did a reconstruction with no parked cars. Let's see your evidence from the third witness.

Were they doing it on the cheap?

[sadie]

Two witnesses did a reconstruction with no parked cars. Let's see your evidence from the third witness.

Yep, that may be true, but we have (at least) two witnesses, Stephen Carpenter and Arlindo, who say there were at least parked cars

And stated that in official statements.  Better than in a commercial video.

It is obvious to me that IMO all the cars were cleared away for the filming that we saw for The Cutting Edge video, which is featured in the "Madeleine was here" video part 4/5. 
Apart from few people being allowed thru en route to and from their homes, you can see on the video, that they were kept at bay too.

http://youtu.be/na4aBr5PTYY

[sadie]

Two witnesses did a reconstruction with no parked cars. Let's see your evidence from the third witness.

Why do you continue to cofabulate?

You are talking about a filming exercise.  Rob and I are talking about what happened on May 3rd 2007 according to actual official statements.

Doesn't matter whether a person was walking up or down, according to the statements of Stephen Carpenter and the statement of Arlingio, there were (at least) two cars parked between 6 metres north of the Tapas Reception and some metres short of 5A.

Because of the constraints of that distance, this means that one car was partially over thye alleyway and the other pretty close ... and seems from other statements Jez was standing between these cars.  Gerry was positioned that he definitely couldnt see Jane and if Jez was bending down attending to his baby in the wheeler, then Jane would be out of his peripheral vision too.

Please do not obfuscate PFinder; we are making a concerted effort, led by Rob, to solve as much of this case as is possible.

OK we all know that you have a theory involving Gerry, but for the common good and a little missing girl, please fairly consider what actually went on.  Do not twist the facts.  We need the truth.

[G-Unit]

Why do you continue to cofabulate?

You are talking about a filming exercise.  Rob and I are talking about what happened on May 3rd 2007 according to actual official statements.

Doesn't matter whether a person was walking up or down, according to the statements of Stephen Carpenter and the statement of Arlingio, there were (at least) two cars parked between 6 metres north of the Tapas Reception and some metres short of 5A.

Because of the constraints of that distance, this means that one car was partially over thye alleyway and the other pretty close ... and seems from other statements Jez was standing between these cars.  Gerry was positioned that he definitely couldnt see Jane and if Jez was bending down attending to his baby in the wheeler, then Jane would be out of his peripheral vision too.

Please do not obfuscate PFinder; we are making a concerted effort, led by Rob, to solve as much of this case as is possible.

OK we all know that you have a theory involving Gerry, but for the common good and a little missing girl, please fairly consider what actually went on.  Do not twist the facts.  We need the truth.

Two witnesses say that two cars were parked on the road between 9.10 and 9.30 pm.
Jane Tanner remembers seeing the two men but not any parked cars.
If the cars were where Carpenter said they were and the men were near the alleyway how did Jane fail to notice them?
If Jes was in the road he was either in between the two cars or behind the second one and he makes no mention of them either.
Is it possible to decide the truth of the matter? Not in my opinion.

[Robittybob1]

Two witnesses say that two cars were parked on the road between 9.10 and 9.30 pm.
Jane Tanner remembers seeing the two men but not any parked cars.
If the cars were where Carpenter said they were and the men were near the alleyway how did Jane fail to notice them?
If Jes was in the road he was either in between the two cars or behind the second one and he makes no mention of them either.
Is it possible to decide the truth of the matter? Not in my opinion.

Would cars be part of the background and hence not get a mention?

[sadie]

Would cars be part of the background and hence not get a mention?

Cars are generally mundane and part of the scenery after dark.

THey are only really noticeable if
1)  they are in the way when looking for the 'all clear' in order to cross the road.  Stephen Carpenter noticed them because of this, they got in the way of his clear vision for crossing the road
2)  one was trying to pull into a parking place and a car/s was in the way.  Arlingo noticed the other car because he was trying to get the most convenient parking place.


Why would anyone else make note of them on a poorly lit road, where they regularly sat parked?