When was the door shut? David Payne. Rules out wandering off.

[Alice Purjorick]

Being accused of secreting one's daughter's body inside a dead dog and having her incinerated at a pet crematorium doesn't affect one's reputation in any way whatsoever then??

I'll have to mull that one over.

Pet cremator is asked: Did you burn Madeleine McCann's body
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1563735/Pet-cremator-is-asked-Did-you-burn-Madeleine-McCanns-body.html

The words Dutch criminal and convicted terrorist caught my eye in the DT link posted.

What a nice gentleman he turned out to be.
With that sitting on one's doortstep one would run it in for anything in the way of unsolved crime and seemingly what we may find bizarre and oooh errr no one would do that....well oh yes he would apparently.
You seem to suggest the police should not have interrogated him. Why would that be given his record?

https://www.ad.nl/den-haag/beruchte-bajesklant-eef-hoos-overleden-na-ziekbed~a7649277/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86xB-jghDGs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86xB-jghDGs

I'll leave you to do the googlish bit.

[slartibartfast]

In your opinion, perhaps?  Unless you have cites?

So you think their reputation would be better if MM had woke and wandered?

[Robittybob1]

What particularly happened makes a difference to their reputation.

But we really don't know what happened even though some are favouring the woke and wandered theory.

[Robittybob1]

It’s more to with degree of culpability. If MM walked out and met with a fatal accident the McCann’s would be wholly responsible. That responsibility drops with walked out and taken from the street and drops further with an intruder to it’s lowest level possible in the left in unlocked apartment scenario. It can never drop to zero as parents are always ultimately responsible for their children.

I sort of see what you mean, as even though what the parents did remains a constant in all scenarios, the prosecution would claim the parent did not consider the dangers sufficiently if there had been a resultant serious accident as opposed to a simple getting lost situation, ( a situation that is happening many times every day in the UK "Every 5 mins a child is reported missing in the UK.").

[slartibartfast]

But we really don't know what happened even though some are favouring the woke and wandered theory.

I didn’t say we did. I gave a range of possibilities and the relative impact of the McCann’s reputation.

[Mr Gray]

But we really don't know what happened even though some are favouring the woke and wandered theory.

the w and wtheory needs to be seen in the context of it being described as highly unlikely by the final report...they did not say abduction was highly unlikely

[Robittybob1]

I didn’t say we did. I gave a range of possibilities and the relative impact of the McCann’s reputation.

Well when I read "What particularly happened makes a difference to their reputation.", I don't know what you mean by "what particularly happened" if no one knows what actually happened.  You might mean something different to the way I understand it. 
OK you might mean "if it is ever determined what happened this will make a difference to their reputation"

[slartibartfast]

Well when I read "What particularly happened makes a difference to their reputation.", I don't know what you mean by "what particularly happened" if no one knows what actually happened.  You might mean something different to the way I understand it.

Which possibility.

[Robittybob1]

the w and wtheory needs to be seen in the context of it being described as highly unlikely by the final report...they did not say abduction was highly unlikely

The final report is just more opinion on that matter.  This forum is at least as thorough as the PJ.

[Benice]

It is clear to see that this was very much a case of damage limitation going on which is still going on to this day.  The parents had to be protected at all cost and that cost has been a very high one.  If it is ever established that Maddie did wander then culpability returns to the parents.

I'm still waiting for someone to explain why the McCanns are such extremely important people that they have to be protected at all costs.   Care to elaborate?

[G-Unit]

Being accused of secreting one's daughter's body inside a dead dog and having her incinerated at a pet crematorium doesn't affect one's reputation in any way whatsoever then??

I'll have to mull that one over.

Pet cremator is asked: Did you burn Madeleine McCann's body
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1563735/Pet-cremator-is-asked-Did-you-burn-Madeleine-McCanns-body.html

Who accused the McCanns of this? The article linked to doesn't say that. The true story is in the files, newspapers just print speculation and rumour imo.

The rumour seems to have been begun by Correio da Manha. After reading what they said Hoos himself decided to go and  see the PJ on the morning of 20th September. He told them that the crematorium had been closed and sealed since 2nd March 2007 and invited them to go and look. Two of the PJ visited the site that same afternoon and confirmed that he was telling the truth.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/HOOS_HENDRIK.htm

[Mr Gray]

The final report is just more opinion on that matter.  This forum is at least as thorough as the PJ.

you are stating your opinion as fact...this forum is simply members of the public without access to al the info and therefore carries little weight...imo. the PJ must have had some evidence to make such a strong statememt...without sight of that evidence we cannot just simply write it off as you have done

[Robittybob1]

you are stating your opinion as fact...this forum is simply members of the public without access to al the info and therefore carries little weight...imo. the PJ must have had some evidence to make such a strong statememt...without sight of that evidence we cannot just simply write it off as you have done

They had the opportunity to present the file to us,  That is their evidence to support the archiving report, and those files have been looked at in some depth.  And discussed at length on forums such as this.  Truly impressive work has been achieved.
I agree they should have some evidence but all the evidence i see for it are the claims that the doors and gates would have been found open but Kate didn't find those open but the window open and the shutters up.

[Mr Gray]

They had the opportunity to present the file to us,  That is their evidence to support the archiving report, and those files have been looked at in some depth.  And discussed at length on forums such as this.  Truly impressive work has been achieved.
I agree they should have some evidence but all the evidence i see for it are the claims that the doors and gates would have been found open but Kate didn't find those open but the window open and the shutters up.

They stated it was highly unlikely... Unless we know on what evidence that was based we are simply guessing...

[Robittybob1]

They stated it was highly unlikely... Unless we know on what evidence that was based we are simply guessing...

I'm not going to discuss this with you as there is no way to progress it.