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Offline faithlilly

Re: Has the discrepancy been discussed before - Kate used the front door!
« Reply #90 on: January 12, 2018, 07:27:50 PM »
Quote from: Carana on January 12, 2018, 07:13:02 PM
Were you there? I wasn't.

If the officer had had time to think, wouldn't it have been logical to ask if he'd decided to unlock the verandah door and if so, why?

Until the second interview there was no need for clarification and by then Gerry had attempted to offer an explanation.
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Has the discrepancy been discussed before - Kate used the front door!
« Reply #91 on: January 12, 2018, 08:03:07 PM »
Quote from: Carana on January 12, 2018, 03:51:09 PM
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ETA: Except that certain elements of the PJ drew attention to it as somehow evidence of some nefarious deed.

There are only about six items that would set bells off in my 'ead.
Not many out of about one and half dozen if you say it quick, like.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Has the discrepancy been discussed before - Kate used the front door!
« Reply #92 on: January 12, 2018, 08:06:51 PM »
Quote from: Davel on January 12, 2018, 07:02:16 PM
I think it's been admitted by the pj there were errors..... There is absolutely  bound to be
I can accept you having thoughts that are your own, but this one will require some evidence  for you are thinking it has been admitted, so that admission is either a fact or a fiction.  Show us your basis of your thinking?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Has the discrepancy been discussed before - Kate used the front door!
« Reply #93 on: January 12, 2018, 09:14:22 PM »
Quote from: Robittybob1 on January 12, 2018, 08:06:51 PM
I can accept you having thoughts that are your own, but this one will require some evidence  for you are thinking it has been admitted, so that admission is either a fact or a fiction.  Show us your basis of your thinking?

There is a daily mail article which has been cited about a million times

I'm on my phone...
Google
McCann possible  translation  errors the telegraph

It's crystal clear
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Has the discrepancy been discussed before - Kate used the front door!
« Reply #94 on: January 12, 2018, 09:26:10 PM »
Quote from: Davel on January 12, 2018, 09:14:22 PM
There is a daily mail article which has been cited about a million times

I'm on my phone...
Google
McCann possible  translation  errors the telegraph

It's crystal clear
You do it for you will recognise it quicker than I will.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Has the discrepancy been discussed before - Kate used the front door!
« Reply #95 on: January 12, 2018, 09:28:25 PM »
Quote from: Robittybob1 on January 12, 2018, 09:26:10 PM
You do it for you will recognise it quicker than I will.

I'm posting from my phone
I've done it but can't copy and paste
It's been cited many times
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Has the discrepancy been discussed before - Kate used the front door!
« Reply #96 on: January 12, 2018, 09:46:00 PM »
Quote from: Carana on January 12, 2018, 07:10:09 PM
I think there might be a slight problem there, G-Unit.

I can't find the paragraph that you just quoted in the PT statement. AFAIK, that was an explanatory note by a blogger who'd translated the PT version into French, which Anna then translated into English.

Interpreters in Portugal use consecutive interpreting. That means they listen/take notes then deliver their interpretation orally. It's done in chunks; sentences or paragraphs. At the end of the process they translate back to the witness what has been written down. The witness signs if they find it OK and the interpreter signs to say they have interpreted the document correctly.
fra.europa.eu/sites/default/files/fra_uploads/rights-suspected-persons-country_pt.pdf
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Has the discrepancy been discussed before - Kate used the front door!
« Reply #97 on: January 12, 2018, 09:50:06 PM »
Quote from: G-Unit on January 12, 2018, 09:46:00 PM
Interpreters in Portugal use consecutive interpreting. That means they listen/take notes then deliver their interpretation orally. It's done in chunks; sentences or paragraphs. At the end of the process they translate back to the witness what has been written down. The witness signs if they find it OK and the interpreter signs to say they have interpreted the document correctly.
fra.europa.eu/sites/default/files/fra_uploads/rights-suspected-persons-country_pt.pdf
That sounds like a school kid marking their own exam papers.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Has the discrepancy been discussed before - Kate used the front door!
« Reply #98 on: January 12, 2018, 09:51:19 PM »
Quote from: Davel on January 12, 2018, 09:28:25 PM
I'm posting from my phone
I've done it but can't copy and paste
It's been cited many times
Give me the significant words in the title then.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Has the discrepancy been discussed before - Kate used the front door!
« Reply #99 on: January 12, 2018, 09:56:17 PM »
Quote from: Robittybob1 on January 12, 2018, 09:51:19 PM
Give me the significant words in the title then.

I already have post 94
McCann possible translation errors  the telegraph
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Has the discrepancy been discussed before - Kate used the front door!
« Reply #100 on: January 12, 2018, 09:57:24 PM »
Quote from: Robittybob1 on January 12, 2018, 09:50:06 PM
That sounds like a school kid marking their own exam papers.
What an excellent  post
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Has the discrepancy been discussed before - Kate used the front door!
« Reply #101 on: January 12, 2018, 10:00:41 PM »
Quote from: G-Unit on January 12, 2018, 09:46:00 PM
Interpreters in Portugal use consecutive interpreting. That means they listen/take notes then deliver their interpretation orally. It's done in chunks; sentences or paragraphs. At the end of the process they translate back to the witness what has been written down. The witness signs if they find it OK and the interpreter signs to say they have interpreted the document correctly.
fra.europa.eu/sites/default/files/fra_uploads/rights-suspected-persons-country_pt.pdf

So even if the translator got it totally wrong there is no evidence
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Has the discrepancy been discussed before - Kate used the front door!
« Reply #102 on: January 12, 2018, 10:01:35 PM »
Quote from: Davel on January 12, 2018, 09:14:22 PM
There is a daily mail article which has been cited about a million times

I'm on my phone...
Google
McCann possible  translation  errors the telegraph

It's crystal clear

Crystal clear? "a police source said" does not mean " it's been admitted by the pj there were errors". The article seems to be an attempt to suggest that Murat's interpretations were below par, not those of the other interpreters.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1569143/Madeleine-McCann-Possible-translation-errors.html
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Has the discrepancy been discussed before - Kate used the front door!
« Reply #103 on: January 12, 2018, 10:02:56 PM »
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Has the discrepancy been discussed before - Kate used the front door!
« Reply #104 on: January 12, 2018, 10:04:46 PM »
Quote from: G-Unit on January 12, 2018, 10:01:35 PM
Crystal clear? "a police source said" does not mean " it's been admitted by the pj there were errors". The article seems to be an attempt to suggest that Murat's interpretations were below par, not those of the other interpreters.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1569143/Madeleine-McCann-Possible-translation-errors.html

Rob asked for my source... I gave it... The wording is crystal  clear.... IMO it's ridiculous  to suggest there are no errors particularly as we have no record of the competence of the interpreters
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