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Offline jassi

Re: Were the translation errors of critical relevance?
« Reply #315 on: January 21, 2018, 06:06:14 PM »
As Kate & Gerry expressed their willingness to return for a reconstruction, I cannot see why any of their friends would want to thwart that wish by failing to comply with the request.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Were the translation errors of critical relevance?
« Reply #316 on: January 21, 2018, 06:07:36 PM »
Quote from: jassi on January 21, 2018, 06:06:14 PM
As Kate & Gerry expressed their willingness to return for a reconstruction, I cannot see why any of their friends would want to thwart that wish by failing to comply with the request.

I can...they did not trust the PJ...imo
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Were the translation errors of critical relevance?
« Reply #317 on: January 21, 2018, 06:19:57 PM »
Quote from: Eleanor on January 21, 2018, 01:46:38 PM
There is no evidence that the rest of The Tapas Group were involved in any way.
There is some evidence, as it is gradually showing up IMO.  It probably will never come to the fore here (on this forum) as it will always be treated as libel.
It also depends on what you are trying to say they did.

Could the forum ever accept the possibility that one of the Tapas group knew Madeleine was missing before Kate's check?  That is not actually doing anything wrong is it?  It is not wrong to know something is it?   But it is still very disturbing if it was true.  I find the thought of it disturbing.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Were the translation errors of critical relevance?
« Reply #318 on: January 21, 2018, 06:23:44 PM »
Quote from: Robittybob1 on January 21, 2018, 06:19:57 PM
There is some evidence, as it is gradually showing up IMO.  It probably will never come to the fore here (on this forum) as it will always be treated as libel.
It also depends on what you are trying to say they did.

Could the forum ever accept the possibility that one of the Tapas group knew Madeleine was missing before Kate's check?  That is not actually doing anything wrong is it?  It is not wrong to know something is it?   But it is still very disturbing if it was true.  I find the thought of it disturbing.

you think there's evidence and you think its growing...i think you are totally wrong. Any evidence if true can be posted here...its only libel if its specualtion
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Were the translation errors of critical relevance?
« Reply #319 on: January 21, 2018, 06:26:35 PM »
Quote from: jassi on January 21, 2018, 06:06:14 PM
As Kate & Gerry expressed their willingness to return for a reconstruction, I cannot see why any of their friends would want to thwart that wish by failing to comply with the request.

Kate and Gerry had no choice.
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Offline jassi

Re: Were the translation errors of critical relevance?
« Reply #320 on: January 21, 2018, 06:30:15 PM »
Why should they want  or need a choice?
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Were the translation errors of critical relevance?
« Reply #321 on: January 21, 2018, 06:31:25 PM »
Quote from: Davel on January 21, 2018, 06:05:33 PM
An arguido does not have to answer questions so it cant be an offence not to co operate. It seems taht the only way to force someone to return is via an international arrest warrant and these can only be issued for prosecutions not for investigations...in short they could not be forced to return and their decision was the right one...imo
There were conditions imposed on those that were made arguido.  No doubt failing to turn up for investigation would be treated seriously.

Quote from: Davel on January 21, 2018, 06:23:44 PM
you think there's evidence and you think its growing...i think you are totally wrong. Any evidence if true can be posted here...its only libel if its specualtion
It is scary for me to even think that I could be about to turn up real evidence of this.  I sit here wondering if I'm right, and there is no way to discuss it.  OK it starts of with a suspicion, and then you make a tentative hypothesis, which some will dismiss as speculation.   

I'm sure you did not read my post properly.  Prove to me you did?  What is it I'm saying they were involved with?
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Offline jassi

Re: Were the translation errors of critical relevance?
« Reply #322 on: January 21, 2018, 06:36:53 PM »
Quote from: Robittybob1 on January 21, 2018, 06:31:25 PM
There were conditions imposed on those that were made arguido.  No doubt failing to turn up for investigation would be treated seriously.
It is scary for me to even think that I could be about to turn up real evidence of this.  I sit here wondering if I'm right, and there is no way to discuss it.  OK it starts of with a suspicion, and then you make a tentative hypothesis, which some will dismiss as speculation.   

I'm sure you did not read my post properly.  Prove to me you did?  What is it I'm saying they were involved with?

Thing is to give it a go. If others think it worth discussing, then they will do so.

Alternatively PM your ideas to those you think might be receptive and see what happens.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Were the translation errors of critical relevance?
« Reply #323 on: January 21, 2018, 06:42:31 PM »
Was Gerry lowering the shutter and then going around to the outside to see if it could be opened from the outside a translation error?    I don't know about you but if your wife ever said someone has abducted your child and you go and destroy the most vital evidence - would she be in her rights to think you are involved?
Not only Gerry messed with the shutters but so did Dianne.  Why did she do that?  Oh it is a translation error is it?  It could be for it doesn't make any sense to me.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Were the translation errors of critical relevance?
« Reply #324 on: January 21, 2018, 06:43:55 PM »
Quote from: Robittybob1 on January 21, 2018, 06:31:25 PM
There were conditions imposed on those that were made arguido.  No doubt failing to turn up for investigation would be treated seriously.
It is scary for me to even think that I could be about to turn up real evidence of this.  I sit here wondering if I'm right, and there is no way to discuss it.  OK it starts of with a suspicion, and then you make a tentative hypothesis, which some will dismiss as speculation.   

I'm sure you did not read my post properly.  Prove to me you did?  What is it I'm saying they were involved with?
Im sure I did read your post properly...and I think you are merely speculating.....anything that is fact can be posted
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Were the translation errors of critical relevance?
« Reply #325 on: January 21, 2018, 06:44:44 PM »
Quote from: Robittybob1 on January 21, 2018, 06:42:31 PM
Was Gerry lowering the shutter and then going around to the outside to see if it could be opened from the outside a translation error?    I don't know about you but if your wife ever said someone has abducted your child and you go and destroy the most vital evidence - would she be in her rights to think you are involved?
Not only Gerry messed with the shutters but so did Dianne.  Why did she do that?  Oh it is a translation error is it?  It could be for it doesn't make any sense to me.

It makes perfect sense to me
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Were the translation errors of critical relevance?
« Reply #326 on: January 21, 2018, 06:52:06 PM »
Quote from: Davel on January 21, 2018, 06:43:55 PM
Im sure I did read your post properly...and I think you are merely speculating.....anything that is fact can be posted
What am I trying to say here?  "Could the forum ever accept the possibility that one of the Tapas group knew Madeleine was missing before Kate's check?  That is not actually doing anything wrong is it?  It is not wrong to know something is it?   But it is still very disturbing if it was true.  I find the thought of it disturbing."
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Were the translation errors of critical relevance?
« Reply #327 on: January 21, 2018, 06:56:36 PM »
Quote from: Robittybob1 on January 21, 2018, 06:52:06 PM
What am I trying to say here?  "Could the forum ever accept the possibility that one of the Tapas group knew Madeleine was missing before Kate's check?  That is not actually doing anything wrong is it?  It is not wrong to know something is it?   But it is still very disturbing if it was true.  I find the thought of it disturbing."

but there is no reason to believe its true
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Were the translation errors of critical relevance?
« Reply #328 on: January 21, 2018, 06:58:56 PM »
Quote from: jassi on January 21, 2018, 06:30:15 PM
Why should they want  or need a choice?

Since they weren't asked or ordered back then what they wanted or needed is irrelevant.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Were the translation errors of critical relevance?
« Reply #329 on: January 21, 2018, 07:03:46 PM »
I think I have the proof now, but any proof still could be looked at in a different way. But as long as you can't prove that what I say (my theory) is impossible it has to remain on the list of possible solutions to this puzzle of the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.

Quote from: Davel on January 21, 2018, 06:56:36 PM
but there is no reason to believe its true
I don't know if is true or not but it is a possibility.  The only reason it remains on the list of possibilities is I can't eliminate it.  Knowledge is in a person's head.  The only way you can tell what a person knows is by observing what he does and interpreting those actions.
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