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Offline faithlilly

Re: Did false memory syndrome play a part in the McCann case?
« Reply #30 on: January 19, 2018, 12:08:31 AM »
In the version of events I know about ... Mr Smith appears to be on his own with his memories.  Why else did Mrs Smith refuse to back him up officially by refusing to make a statement to that effect?
Why did everyone else disagree with his change of statement ... even the perspicacious Aoife?  Certainly nowhere near a collective but I would say more a case of false memory syndrome.

As to why Mrs Smith didn't make another statement there could be several reasons and speculation that it was because she didn't agree with her husband is just that, speculation and as to why none of the rest of the holiday party agreed with him I have no idea but, as we are constantly told by supporters, eye witness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
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Offline Brietta

Re: Did false memory syndrome play a part in the McCann case?
« Reply #31 on: January 19, 2018, 12:32:36 AM »
As to why Mrs Smith didn't make another statement there could be several reasons and speculation that it was because she didn't agree with her husband is just that, speculation and as to why none of the rest of the holiday party agreed with him I have no idea but, as we are constantly told by supporters, eye witness testimony is notoriously unreliable.

It is not speculation that Mrs Smith refused to alter her statement ... nor is it speculation that no other witnesses in his party agreed with Mr Smith.
The only other person who did agree with him being Mr McCluskey who watched the same news broadcast and arrived at exactly the same erroneous conclusion that Mr Smith did.  Which in my opinion makes the alterations to their original statements by these witnesses if not notorious most certainly ... unreliable.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Did false memory syndrome play a part in the McCann case?
« Reply #32 on: January 19, 2018, 07:24:13 AM »
It is not speculation that Mrs Smith refused to alter her statement ... nor is it speculation that no other witnesses in his party agreed with Mr Smith.
The only other person who did agree with him being Mr McCluskey who watched the same news broadcast and arrived at exactly the same erroneous conclusion that Mr Smith did.  Which in my opinion makes the alterations to their original statements by these witnesses if not notorious most certainly ... unreliable.
He says initially the woman spoke Portuguese, the Police said they were Ukrainians so she could hardly become Kate McCann a a later date.  The women may lookalike but unless Kate has the hidden talent of speaking Portuguese it wasn't her IMO.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Did false memory syndrome play a part in the McCann case?
« Reply #33 on: January 19, 2018, 07:35:47 AM »
It is not speculation that Mrs Smith refused to alter her statement ... nor is it speculation that no other witnesses in his party agreed with Mr Smith.
The only other person who did agree with him being Mr McCluskey who watched the same news broadcast and arrived at exactly the same erroneous conclusion that Mr Smith did.  Which in my opinion makes the alterations to their original statements by these witnesses if not notorious most certainly ... unreliable.

The difference being that the couple seen by the McCluskey's were identified and eliminated. None of the investigators have been able to find, identify or eliminate Smithman. 
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Did false memory syndrome play a part in the McCann case?
« Reply #34 on: January 19, 2018, 08:53:25 AM »
I can't help but wonder...
Have the Smith family been reinterviewed & given new statements to Operation Grange, like Kate & Gerry haven't.
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Offline Benice

Re: Did false memory syndrome play a part in the McCann case?
« Reply #35 on: January 19, 2018, 09:43:04 AM »
I can't help but wonder...
Have the Smith family been reinterviewed & given new statements to Operation Grange, like Kate & Gerry haven't.

We were told from the beginning that SY would not be giving a running commentary on their investigations.

Any suggestion that SY officers would sit pondering over anything at all which could be clarified or established by speaking again to witnesses - and then not do that -  is nonsense IMO.    It is only armchair detectives who don't have that ability.

AIMHO

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Offline barrier

Re: Did false memory syndrome play a part in the McCann case?
« Reply #36 on: January 19, 2018, 10:22:10 AM »
We were told from the beginning that SY would not be giving a running commentary on their investigations.

Any suggestion that SY officers would sit pondering over anything at all which could be clarified or established by speaking again to witnesses - and then not do that -  is nonsense IMO.    It is only armchair detectives who don't have that ability.

AIMHO

Yet armchair detective theories on how an abduction could have occurred  are actively encouraged and supported,hmmm.
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Offline Carana

Re: Did false memory syndrome play a part in the McCann case?
« Reply #37 on: January 19, 2018, 10:38:49 AM »
I can't help but wonder...
Have the Smith family been reinterviewed & given new statements to Operation Grange, like Kate & Gerry haven't.

Lots of people could have been informally interviewed for any outstanding details for further clarification if needed, presumably including K & G. Clarifying the odd detail to check on doesn't necessarily involve being hauled to a police station in the UK, does it?

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Did false memory syndrome play a part in the McCann case?
« Reply #38 on: January 19, 2018, 10:40:08 AM »
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Did false memory syndrome play a part in the McCann case?
« Reply #39 on: January 19, 2018, 10:41:03 AM »
It is not speculation that Mrs Smith refused to alter her statement ... nor is it speculation that no other witnesses in his party agreed with Mr Smith.
The only other person who did agree with him being Mr McCluskey who watched the same news broadcast and arrived at exactly the same erroneous conclusion that Mr Smith did.  Which in my opinion makes the alterations to their original statements by these witnesses if not notorious most certainly ... unreliable.

Of course it's not speculation but the reasons for those decisions is.
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Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Benice

Re: Did false memory syndrome play a part in the McCann case?
« Reply #40 on: January 19, 2018, 10:45:29 AM »
Yet armchair detective theories on how an abduction could have occurred  are actively encouraged and supported,hmmm.

As this is a forum dedicated to debating the McCann case there will obviously be theories from both sides which are encouraged and supported.   What is there to hmmmmm about in that?

I was just pointing out the difference between us and SY detectives when it comes to interviewing or re -interviewing witnesses.    They can - we can't.     

 There are times when I get the impression that some folk think SY officers are in exactly the same position as the rest of us when it comes to how they investigate this case.   Clearly they are not.

AIMHO

 
The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Did false memory syndrome play a part in the McCann case?
« Reply #41 on: January 19, 2018, 10:51:43 AM »
I can't help but wonder...
Have the Smith family been reinterviewed & given new statements to Operation Grange, like Kate & Gerry haven't.
You do not know as a fact that Kate and Gerry have not been interviewed..... I would say that the definitely  would have Bern

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Did false memory syndrome play a part in the McCann case?
« Reply #42 on: January 19, 2018, 10:54:22 AM »
You do not know as a fact that Kate and Gerry have not been interviewed..... I would say that the definitely  would have Bern

I would say that they haven't.

And Mr Rowleys comments, suggest they haven't.
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Did false memory syndrome play a part in the McCann case?
« Reply #43 on: January 19, 2018, 11:01:54 AM »
In the version of events I know about ... Mr Smith appears to be on his own with his memories.  Why else did Mrs Smith refuse to back him up officially by refusing to make a statement to that effect?
Why did everyone else disagree with his change of statement ... even the perspicacious Aoife?  Certainly nowhere near a collective but I would say more a case of false memory syndrome.

In the version I know about Mrs Smith said and I paraphrase:
"I have nothing to add so p**s off Sooty".
Which is some distance from your version.
On which version I wonder will the sportsmen lay their purses?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Did false memory syndrome play a part in the McCann case?
« Reply #44 on: January 19, 2018, 11:26:05 AM »
I would say that they haven't.

And Mr Rowleys comments, suggest they haven't.

Mr rowleys comment does not suggest they haven't... He says, they haven't  been interviewed under caution... Not that they haven't  been interviewed