Author Topic: Did false memory syndrome play a part in the McCann case?  (Read 21374 times)

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Offline Carana

Re: Did false memory syndrome play a part in the McCann case?
« Reply #45 on: January 19, 2018, 11:52:09 AM »
In the version I know about Mrs Smith said and I paraphrase:
"I have nothing to add so p**s off Sooty".
Which is some distance from your version.
On which version I wonder will the sportsmen lay their purses?

There is nothing objective to establish context in the accessible files for the moment.

A possibility, however, is that Mr Smith, Sr., had a sudden recollection of how the child was carried, based on watching the news of Gerry coming down the plane with a sleeping Sean. A disturbing thought. He could have discussed the possibility with his wife and whether or not he should mention it to the police. Wife thinks, "Well, you never know, could be. Go ahead and ring. No harm done." Meanwhile, he's left with this dilemma: to ring or not to ring. He did.

Grandad did check with his children, who didn't think it was him and he also pointed that out.

In the same circumstances, I probably would have done as well - just on the off-chance that it could have been, based on a vague recollection. And then it's up to the police to work it out.

In theory.

I doubt that he expected that confidential doubt to end up splashed all over the media... and later exaggerated by the coordinator.

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Did false memory syndrome play a part in the McCann case?
« Reply #46 on: January 19, 2018, 12:17:28 PM »
None of the kids thought it was Gerry and quite a few people around that night stated that they never saw Murat...

It is hard from the statements to tell if they thought it wasn’t Gerry or if they just couldn’t clearly identify smithman.
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Re: Did false memory syndrome play a part in the McCann case?
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Offline jassi

Re: Did false memory syndrome play a part in the McCann case?
« Reply #48 on: January 19, 2018, 01:57:26 PM »
It is hard from the statements to tell if they thought it wasn’t Gerry or if they just couldn’t clearly identify smithman.

Being unable to clearly identify someone  excludes nobody.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

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Offline Brietta

Re: Did false memory syndrome play a part in the McCann case?
« Reply #49 on: January 19, 2018, 02:18:08 PM »
He says initially the woman spoke Portuguese, the Police said they were Ukrainians so she could hardly become Kate McCann a a later date.  The women may lookalike but unless Kate has the hidden talent of speaking Portuguese it wasn't her IMO.

The PJ had checked out Mr and Mrs McCluskey's concerns at the time and found them to be without foundation ... but Mr McCluskey and Mr Smith were almost word for word in their reaction to the news broadcast featuring Gerry carrying his son.

Both witnesses had seen a man carrying a child and in my opinion had a false memory of the event on seeing the man in the case they had both being following and who was therefore very familiar to them, and transferred him into the memory of their experience.
Possibly so, as a result of his arguido status.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

Re: Did false memory syndrome play a part in the McCann case?
« Reply #50 on: January 19, 2018, 02:24:04 PM »
I would say that they haven't.

And Mr Rowleys comments, suggest they haven't.

When was "innocent dad man" interviewed?  I don't think there is the slightest doubt he was.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Did false memory syndrome play a part in the McCann case?
« Reply #51 on: January 19, 2018, 03:05:18 PM »
When was "innocent dad man" interviewed?  I don't think there is the slightest doubt he was.

1) Frankly my dear, I don't....

& 2) Yes there is some doubt, as I personally, believe he is a creation of false memory.
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Offline Carana

Re: Did false memory syndrome play a part in the McCann case?
« Reply #52 on: January 19, 2018, 03:07:37 PM »
1) Frankly my dear, I don't....

& 2) Yes there is some doubt, as I personally, believe he is a creation of false memory.

Who by? Potential Crècheman and his wife? By the Met?

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Did false memory syndrome play a part in the McCann case?
« Reply #53 on: January 19, 2018, 03:17:57 PM »
Who by? Potential Crècheman and his wife? By the Met?

I believe Jane Tanner saw a man & child, but that she knew both, & they weren't where she said they were.
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Offline Carana

Re: Did false memory syndrome play a part in the McCann case?
« Reply #54 on: January 19, 2018, 03:28:23 PM »
I believe Jane Tanner saw a man & child, but that she knew both, & they weren't where she said they were.

Ok. That's novel. Anything to back that up?

Offline Eleanor

Re: Did false memory syndrome play a part in the McCann case?
« Reply #55 on: January 19, 2018, 03:32:34 PM »
1) Frankly my dear, I don't....

& 2) Yes there is some doubt, as I personally, believe he is a creation of false memory.

I think we all know that by now, that you don't give a damn.  Sadly, you never back up your theories.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Did false memory syndrome play a part in the McCann case?
« Reply #56 on: January 19, 2018, 03:37:09 PM »

I reserve the right to believe as I wish, & explain only if I feel like it.

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Offline Carana

Re: Did false memory syndrome play a part in the McCann case?
« Reply #57 on: January 19, 2018, 04:00:13 PM »
I reserve the right to believe as I wish, & explain only if I feel like it.

Ok, but most of us on here spend time digging out cites or at least giving reasons, whether anyone else agrees with the reasoning or not.

I thought that perhaps you had found evidence to substantiate that idea.

Offline Eleanor

Re: Did false memory syndrome play a part in the McCann case?
« Reply #58 on: January 19, 2018, 04:06:02 PM »
I reserve the right to believe as I wish, & explain only if I feel like it.

You are required by this Forum to state that these are only your opinions, unless you can provide proof.

This Forum is not a bear garden, and it is never going to be.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Did false memory syndrome play a part in the McCann case?
« Reply #59 on: January 19, 2018, 04:19:03 PM »
You are required by this Forum to state that these are only your opinions, unless you can provide proof.

This Forum is not a bear garden, and it is never going to be.

If you read back you'll notice I said 'I believe'.... which pretty much translates to 'my opinion is'.

At least, I believe it does.
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