Where were Jez and Gerry standing when they did their talking? Ideas solutions

[sadie]

The video sounds like a true copy - don't worry about the comments.  -snip-

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Am unable to sustantiate my post.   That takes time and energy, of which I have neither atm.  Apologies to forum.

Apart from the fact that a copy was made so that people could abuse the Mccanns in the comments part, IMO ... I think that I am correct in saying that if one makes a copy, one can alter it at a later date if one wishes.

Am I correct?  ..... becos if so, passing that copy video off as genuine could result in dangers ahead for the Mccanns IMO


Hopefully DonnyDarko only wanted for people who hate the Mccanns to have more chances to denigrate them ... and nothing more.

[Alice Purjorick]

Why should Matt find the door angle odd? What is he comparing it to?
If this was first mentioned in his rogy interview, then I would view it with suspicion as it could easily be one of these false memories that we're all supposed to be subject to.

I was about to continue being boring by asking the self same question; along with how was it measured against the datum or was it just eyed in?
Continuing my boring meanderings about doors a standard door opens 90^o and describes an arc of 1200mm =/- from fully closed to fully open (or 130mm per 10^o if you prefer). We can have fun with that now can't we Billy, when we appraise what is realistic and what isn't?

[Robittybob1]

That really sums the situation up entirely.

It certainly puts light on the situation.

[Robittybob1]

It is not a true copy cos it has at least one part removed.  That part showed Jane starting near the gate and then very determindly striding down to the spot that she then indicated as the place where Gerry and Jez chatted.  The bit that was removed added emphasis to the action of pointing out the spot where it happened.  In other words removing it weakened the point. 

The exposure time showing Janes pointing out and moving there was minimised.  These two things meant that anyone not fully conversant with the geography of the place would not be able to place the position.


IMO the making of this phoney video was purely for two reasons:

1)  To cut out bits that the maker wanted removed for his own perverse reasons to weaken the original video
2)  To open up the opportunity for the rabble to abuse the Mccanns  with foul comments.  The original bona fide Cutting Edge Video did not allow comments

IMO NOBODY has the right to alter a bonafide pressentaion by another and present it as the original.

I had previously noticed that the videos ran for a different length of time.  I wish that I had fully analysed the situation at that time. 

So, do you think it is OK that someone alters a video and presents it as the real McCoy, Rob ?

Does anyone else confirm what Sadie says here?  Was there a bit cut out of the video?  https://youtu.be/atfDV7imHHY

[jassi]

Does anyone else confirm what Sadie says here?  Was there a bit cut out of the video?

If Sadie thinks the video has been altered, then she should be able to link to the original video and demonstrate the changes.

[Robittybob1]

If Sadie thinks the video has been altered, then she should be able to link to the original video and demonstrate the changes.

Videos can be deleted by the channel owner.  If I knew how I'd like to save entire videos as I think they will disappear altogether over the years. What will be available to discuss in 10 years from now?

[jassi]

Videos can be deleted by the channel owner.  If I knew how I like to save entire videos as I think they will disappear altogether over the years. What will be available to discuss in 10 years from now?

Without the original to compare it with, it is just another unsubstantiated claim.

[Wonderfulspam]

Does anyone else confirm what Sadie says here?  Was there a bit cut out of the video?

Nope, no cut in that video clip.
Same way the pyjamas picture I posted the other week wasn't photo shopped, as she claimed.

But I do like the bit in that clip where Jane laughs when Gerry contradicts her, then has a cry about it.
https://youtu.be/atfDV7imHHY?t=592

[Robittybob1]

Nope, no cut in that video clip.
Same way the pyjamas picture I posted the other week wasn't photo shopped, as she claimed.

But I do like the bit in that clip where Jane laughs when Gerry contradicts her, then has a cry about it.

It is not that we are saying Sadie is lying about this but it is a matter of remembering an entire video.  I don't know if I ever saw  the original video.  I know how we can solve this; if there was a video that has gone missing has someone put a link to over the years, if so we will find a broken link. I'll search "cutting edge"

[Eleanor]

Allegedly she was very bright for her age. Perhaps this brightness illuminated the way.

A very silly comment.

[Eleanor]

 

Obviously, and not afraid of being alone as well.

Another silly comment.

[Robittybob1]

It is not that we are saying Sadie is lying about this but it is a matter of remembering an entire video.  I don't know if I ever saw  the original video.  I know how we can solve this; if there was a video that has gone missing has someone put a link to over the years, if so we will find a broken link. I'll search "cutting edge"

The video on the site here in "Video library" is the same as the one we have been discussing http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=1285.msg36453#msg36453

Here is a post 4 years ago by Sadie so we could see if her opinion has changed over the years.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=3251.msg123551#msg123551

I would say the video has not changed over the years.  Look at when the video was uploaded "
DonnyDarko
Published on May 5, 2012"  That is even before this UK Justice site ever existed.

[jassi]

The video on the site here in "Video library" is the same as the one we have been discussing http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=1285.msg36453#msg36453

So which version is it and where is the other one for comparison?

[Robittybob1]

Another silly comment.

But on the whole I am very impressed by the quality of the posts on the thread.   I reviewed the whole thread yesterday and it is rather classic.

[Robittybob1]

So which version is it and where is the other one for comparison?

I was unable to find a broken link so IMO there has only been one version.