Author Topic: Do past events tell their own story?  (Read 21596 times)

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Offline Angelo222

Re: Do past events tell their own story?
« Reply #30 on: January 25, 2018, 02:06:15 PM »
Right.  Apply for a European Arrest Warrant.  Difficult because there was no evidence against them.

Eventually return them to Portugal as Arguidos, with a right to silence.  They won't have to answer questions.

That won't have gone well, if at all.

The Metodo 3 affair alone will see arrests imo.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Do past events tell their own story?
« Reply #31 on: January 25, 2018, 02:07:54 PM »
The Metodo 3 affair alone will see arrests imo.

They cannot use the arrests warrants to investigate a crime... They have to be ready to prosecute...
They are not so no arrest warrant
« Last Edit: January 25, 2018, 02:17:47 PM by Davel »

Offline Angelo222

Re: Do past events tell their own story?
« Reply #32 on: January 25, 2018, 02:10:03 PM »
You are making accusations  with no basis.... What evidence is there fire either of those... None

Had Portuguese nationals who were key witnesses refused to cooperate in a reconstitution they would have been charged with obstruction and perverting the course of justice.  The fact that the tapas group were not Portuguese nationals should have not made any difference. They were all in contempt imo and exhibited a flagrant disregard for Maddie.

No wonder the McCanns own children are questioning them.
« Last Edit: January 25, 2018, 02:14:52 PM by Angelo222 »
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Do past events tell their own story?
« Reply #33 on: January 25, 2018, 02:13:06 PM »
I don't see any evidence that the mccanns have not fully cooperated with the present investigation

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Offline Brietta

Re: Do past events tell their own story?
« Reply #34 on: January 25, 2018, 02:13:47 PM »
Yes and she was told she could harm the investigation.

Yet she spent years persecuting G A, with excuse, he harmed the investigation.

post imo

No, Kate was told no such thing. 
She was asked if she was aware she was harming the investigation.

What exactly was being investigated though?  Madeleine or Kate?  Well it sure wasn't Madeleine.

I think it may be time to consider who exactly is being 'persecuted' by whom here.  In my opinion authoring a book making all sorts of ill informed suggestions which are not evidence based as Amaral did, aimed at impugning the parents of a missing child is the gold standard in persecution.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline jassi

Re: Do past events tell their own story?
« Reply #35 on: January 25, 2018, 02:13:58 PM »
Had Portuguese nationals who were key witnesses refused to cooperate in a reconstitution they would have been charged with obstruction and perverting the course of justice.  The fact that the tapas group were not Portuguese nationals should have not made any difference. They were all in contempt imo.

Personally I think they are all beyond contempt.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Do past events tell their own story?
« Reply #36 on: January 25, 2018, 02:15:28 PM »
Asfiac.... The vast majority  don't suspect the mccanns... It's just a small group on the net... Imo
Just as, some still suspect the, US govt we're behind 911 so some will always  suspect the mccanns.  I doubt it bothers, them that much now

Except that, as we found out from Kate, the twins have their internet usage supervised.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Do past events tell their own story?
« Reply #37 on: January 25, 2018, 02:19:21 PM »
Had Portuguese nationals who were key witnesses refused to cooperate in a reconstitution they would have been charged with obstruction and perverting the course of justice.  The fact that the tapas group were not Portuguese nationals should have not made any difference. They were all in contempt imo and exhibited a flagrant disregard for Maddie.

No wonder the McCanns own children are questioning them.
Suspects as arguidos do not have to answer any questions so your statement is wrong..

More opinion as regards their children

Offline Brietta

Re: Do past events tell their own story?
« Reply #38 on: January 25, 2018, 02:25:42 PM »
Had Portuguese nationals who were key witnesses refused to cooperate in a reconstitution they would have been charged with obstruction and perverting the course of justice.  The fact that the tapas group were not Portuguese nationals should have not made any difference. They were all in contempt imo and exhibited a flagrant disregard for Maddie.

No wonder the McCanns own children are questioning them.

FindMadeleine Website -
The proposed reconstruction:
The suggestion of a reconstruction of our movements and other key witnesses at the crime scene and/or surrounding area in the early days following Madeleine's abduction was declined by the PJ as 'not usual' for Portugal.
When the PJ finally requested a reconstruction to take place in 2008, Gerry and I were still arguidos and as such would have attended for a reconstruction.

Some key witnesses (including some of our friends) declined to attend the planned reconstruction as they were not convinced of the aims and usefulness of it.
In particular, as the reconstruction was not to be shown to the media (and hence the general public), they did not feel it would help to find Madeleine.
Had the intention been to show it to the general public, it may have 'jogged' memories and encouraged people to come forward with information.

It should be added that other key witnesses were not invited to attend. (note other key witnesses like the waiters, other guests at the restaurant)
http://madeleinemythsexposed.pbworks.com/w/page/39077838/Rebuttal%20of%20%22Fact%22%2023
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

Re: Do past events tell their own story?
« Reply #39 on: January 25, 2018, 02:31:41 PM »
Except that, as we found out from Kate, the twins have their internet usage supervised.

The children have to be protected from the vile content of many internet sites.  I find that it is necessary that innocent children require that protection against the poisonous attacks on their family an absolute disgrace.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Do past events tell their own story?
« Reply #40 on: January 25, 2018, 02:38:03 PM »
The children have to be protected from the vile content of many internet sites.  I find that it is necessary that innocent children require that protection against the poisonous attacks on their family an absolute disgrace.

Well, there would be no poisonous attacks, if people didn't suspect the McCanns.

But, evidently, some do.

The Police have the power to make it all go away, simply by showing the world this abduction evidence, that they most definitely have, which proves beyond question the McCanns complete non involvement in Madeleines disappearance.

I'm at a loss to understand why the nice people at Scotland Yard don't want to help the McCanns in this way.

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Offline Brietta

Re: Do past events tell their own story?
« Reply #41 on: January 25, 2018, 02:45:36 PM »
Well, there would be no poisonous attacks, if people didn't suspect the McCanns.

But, evidently, some do.

The Police have the power to make it all go away, simply by showing the world this abduction evidence, that they most definitely have, which proves beyond question the McCanns complete non involvement in Madeleines disappearance.

I'm at a loss to understand why the nice people at Scotland Yard don't want to help the McCanns in this way.

Scotland Yard are currently doing their utmost to help Kate and Gerry to find out what happened to Madeleine. 

In what way would it advance Madeleine's very active case by publishing their evidence to satisfy the curiosity of a few malcontents and of course alert any perpetrator who might be interested.
In my opinion your suggestion that they should is superbly devoid of basic common sense.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Do past events tell their own story?
« Reply #42 on: January 25, 2018, 02:50:51 PM »
Scotland Yard are currently doing their utmost to help Kate and Gerry to find out what happened to Madeleine. 

In what way would it advance Madeleine's very active case by publishing their evidence to satisfy the curiosity of a few malcontents and of course alert any perpetrator who might be interested.
In my opinion your suggestion that they should is superbly devoid of basic common sense.

Who said anything about advancing the case?

Not me.

I was talking about ending public suspicion & those vicious troll attacks, you so resent.
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Online Eleanor

Re: Do past events tell their own story?
« Reply #43 on: January 25, 2018, 02:54:40 PM »
Scotland Yard are currently doing their utmost to help Kate and Gerry to find out what happened to Madeleine. 

In what way would it advance Madeleine's very active case by publishing their evidence to satisfy the curiosity of a few malcontents and of course alert any perpetrator who might be interested.
In my opinion your suggestion that they should is superbly devoid of basic common sense.

Several of the comments on this Thread are.

Offline Brietta

Re: Do past events tell their own story?
« Reply #44 on: January 25, 2018, 03:25:58 PM »
Who said anything about advancing the case?

Not me.

I was talking about ending public suspicion & those vicious troll attacks, you so resent.

Please don't try to deflect the thread ... it isn't working.

The level of suspicion directed against Kate and Gerry is in my opinion minimal when taking the real world into consideration.

The reopening of Madeleine's investigation allowed the scales to drop from many eyes both here and in Portugal and most certainly worldwide.
However the investigation into her case works out, in my opinion in future most thinking people will consider the last few years and put anything other than that into the compartment marked 'conspiracy theories'.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....