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Offline Brietta

Distinguishing Fact from Opinion.
« on: January 31, 2018, 07:26:40 PM »
Some members insisted on 'wrapping everything in IMO' ... there was a bit of discussion about it ... and it is now a forum protocol.  Clumsy, but it does have the benefit of differentiating fact from opinion.

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« Last Edit: February 01, 2018, 02:58:09 PM by John »
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: Distinguishing Fact from Opinion.
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2018, 12:46:23 AM »
Some members insisted on 'wrapping everything in IMO' ... there was a bit of discussion about it ... and it is now a forum protocol.  Clumsy, but it does have the benefit of differentiating fact from opinion.
It is factually incorrect that everything has to be wrapped in IMO.

Opinions have to be wrapped in IMO.

Facts do not.

I see a factual accuracy has been airbrushed from this thread.  And that is a fact and not IMO.
What's up, old man?

Offline Brietta

Re: Distinguishing Fact from Opinion.
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2018, 01:19:24 AM »
It is factually incorrect that everything has to be wrapped in IMO.

Opinions have to be wrapped in IMO.

Facts do not.

I see a factual accuracy has been airbrushed from this thread.  And that is a fact and not IMO.

Did you miss the bit in my post which said:  "differentiating fact from opinion" ?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: Distinguishing Fact from Opinion.
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2018, 01:37:44 AM »
Did you miss the bit in my post which said:  "differentiating fact from opinion" ?
Wrapping everything in IMO does absolutely nothing to differentiate fact from opinion.

And it is still not a forum protocol to wrap everything in IMO.

And that is not IMO. That is a fact.
What's up, old man?

Offline Brietta

Re: Distinguishing Fact from Opinion.
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2018, 01:43:51 AM »
Wrapping everything in IMO does absolutely nothing to differentiate fact from opinion.

And it is still not a forum protocol to wrap everything in IMO.

And that is not IMO. That is a fact.

Do have it your own way ... quite frankly in my opinion just an inconsequential argument.  I think everyone else on the forum has grasped the concept whether or not they adhere to it is another matter entirely.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: Distinguishing Fact from Opinion.
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2018, 02:05:50 AM »
Do have it your own way ... quite frankly in my opinion just an inconsequential argument.  I think everyone else on the forum has grasped the concept whether or not they adhere to it is another matter entirely.
Quite frankly, I have no interest in discussing your opinion.

Should you get onto facts, things might be different.
What's up, old man?

Offline Brietta

Re: Distinguishing Fact from Opinion.
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2018, 02:24:07 AM »
Quite frankly, I have no interest in discussing your opinion.

Should you get onto facts, things might be different.

Perhaps you should give some thought as to why your posts always seems to boil down to you and your opinion while never failing to add just a smidgen of deprecation for good measure.
It wouldn't be so bad if you worked it into the concept of the topic of whichever thread you happened to be on at time of delivery but you seldom do.
« Last Edit: February 01, 2018, 09:54:09 AM by Brietta »
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Distinguishing Fact from Opinion.
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2018, 08:48:15 AM »
Wrapping everything in IMO does absolutely nothing to differentiate fact from opinion.

And it is still not a forum protocol to wrap everything in IMO.

And that is not IMO. That is a fact.

whether something is a fact or not is sometimes at the discretion of the moderator....it has become necessarry to add imo to avoid factual posts from being removed...that is also a fact

Offline G-Unit

Re: Distinguishing Fact from Opinion.
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2018, 09:36:25 AM »
whether something is a fact or not is sometimes at the discretion of the moderator....it has become necessarry to add imo to avoid factual posts from being removed...that is also a fact

I think posters don't always realise that what they are posting is an opinion. They are also reluctant to accept that fact in my opinion. I think that's why the interpreters and translators are accused of making mistakes. Posters don't want to accept that the facts don't support their opinions so they try to change/discredit the recorded facts.   
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Offline Brietta

Re: Distinguishing Fact from Opinion.
« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2018, 09:58:49 AM »
I think posters don't always realise that what they are posting is an opinion. They are also reluctant to accept that fact in my opinion. I think that's why the interpreters and translators are accused of making mistakes. Posters don't want to accept that the facts don't support their opinions so they try to change/discredit the recorded facts.

               Maybe worth a thread of its own?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Distinguishing Fact from Opinion.
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2018, 10:01:45 AM »
I think posters don't always realise that what they are posting is an opinion. They are also reluctant to accept that fact in my opinion. I think that's why the interpreters and translators are accused of making mistakes. Posters don't want to accept that the facts don't support their opinions so they try to change/discredit the recorded facts.

You prove my point inas much that one persons fact may be an opinion....you want to accept that the twice translated non verbatim statements are accurate and think that is a fact....I would say it isnt and that my opinion is supported by evidence....

Offline John

Re: Distinguishing Fact from Opinion.
« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2018, 11:26:40 AM »
               Maybe worth a thread of its own?

Done
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Distinguishing Fact from Opinion.
« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2018, 12:56:32 PM »
I seem to recall that the IMOs came about due to the posting of “facts” by supporters.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Erngath

Re: Distinguishing Fact from Opinion.
« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2018, 01:02:18 PM »
I seem to recall that the IMOs came about due to the posting of “facts” by supporters.


Whereas all the "facts" posted by sceptics are indeed "facts"   ?>)()<
« Last Edit: February 01, 2018, 06:02:01 PM by Erngath »
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Distinguishing Fact from Opinion.
« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2018, 01:17:47 PM »
You prove my point inas much that one persons fact may be an opinion....you want to accept that the twice translated non verbatim statements are accurate and think that is a fact....I would say it isnt and that my opinion is supported by evidence....

My opinion is that the statements themselves are facts. I know they are because I can see and read them.

Others, including you, assert that their contents aren't factual, but I have seen no evidence which confirms that.

People's opinions concerning misinterpretations and faulty translations are not, in my opinion, supported by any evidence.
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