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Offline jassi

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #45 on: February 03, 2018, 07:30:24 PM »
And the retraction is absolutely irrelevant as MS stated in his original deposition to the PJ  that he would be unable to recognise the man he saw again. If an innocent father was to come forward, the Smith family would be unable to confirm that he was definitely the man they saw.

You have no way of knowing that.
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I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #46 on: February 03, 2018, 07:34:45 PM »
In answer to the OP... No we have not been lied to by the BBC

Offline misty

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #47 on: February 03, 2018, 07:36:42 PM »
You have no way of knowing that.


They would need a few photos showing the man's appearance nearly 11 years ago - plus pictures of the child. too.

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #48 on: February 03, 2018, 07:38:29 PM »
In answer to the OP... No we have not been lied to by the BBC

Mislead, then again, they may have been too.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #49 on: February 03, 2018, 07:41:40 PM »
Group collaboration does not seem to be an issue in certain quarters when it comes to the evidence of the Smith family IMO. Certainly the description of Smithman's clothing was a collective effort.
And how do you feel about it?  I feel very uncomfortable about it myself, having being raised by a very dictatorial father myself.
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Offline jassi

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #50 on: February 03, 2018, 07:43:34 PM »
And how do you feel about it?  I feel very uncomfortable about it myself, having being raised by a very dictatorial father myself.

Are you suggesting that Mr Smith is a dictatorial father?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

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Offline faithlilly

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #51 on: February 03, 2018, 07:46:15 PM »
And the retraction is absolutely irrelevant as MS stated in his original deposition to the PJ  that he would be unable to recognise the man he saw again. If an innocent father was to come forward, the Smith family would be unable to confirm that he was definitely the man they saw.

MS said because of the way Gerry carried Sean from the plane he was 60 to 80% sure the man he saw was Gerry. We were told he had retracted that identification. That has now shown to be untrue.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #52 on: February 03, 2018, 07:50:06 PM »
MS said because of the way Gerry carried Sean from the plane he was 60 to 80% sure the man he saw was Gerry. We were told he had retracted that identification. That has now shown to be untrue.

May be untrue but also unimportant... Imo

Offline misty

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #53 on: February 03, 2018, 07:50:49 PM »
MS said because of the way Gerry carried Sean from the plane he was 60 to 80% sure the man he saw was Gerry. We were told he had retracted that identification. That has now shown to be untrue.

Really? The Sunday Express had seen Oakley International report. Gemma O'Doherty hasn't. Where did the BBC obtain their original information from when making Panorama?

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #54 on: February 03, 2018, 07:51:01 PM »
Are you suggesting that Mr Smith is a dictatorial father?
No I'm asking whether anyone else sees it like that.  They all gave statements but what Mr Smith thinks dominates the headlines.  Why doesn't Emma go and interview the rest of them?
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #55 on: February 03, 2018, 07:52:33 PM »
Really? The Sunday Express had seen Oakley International report. Gemma O'Doherty hasn't. Where did the BBC obtain their original information from when making Panorama?

It’s a good question. Someone fed them duff info.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Eleanor

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #56 on: February 03, 2018, 07:53:22 PM »
No I'm asking whether anyone else sees it like that.  They all gave statements but what Mr Smith thinks dominates the headlines.  Why doesn't Emma go and interview the rest of them?

Because she won't get the answers she wants?

Offline jassi

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #57 on: February 03, 2018, 07:53:55 PM »
No I'm asking whether anyone else sees it like that.  They all gave statements but what Mr Smith thinks dominates the headlines.  Why doesn't Emma go and interview the rest of them?

Perhaps because she was chasing the claim that Mr Smith had retracted his statement when said  he hadn't.
She wasn't attempting to prove that they all thought alike, or otherwise.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline misty

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #58 on: February 03, 2018, 07:55:13 PM »
It’s a good question. Someone fed them duff info.

Or someone fed Gemma duff info......and she acted upon it.

Offline faithlilly

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #59 on: February 03, 2018, 07:58:30 PM »
Really? The Sunday Express had seen Oakley International report. Gemma O'Doherty hasn't. Where did the BBC obtain their original information from when making Panorama?

Now there is a question.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?