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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #345 on: February 05, 2018, 07:56:28 PM »
Reading your post it made me think...how much had smith had to drink that night..any ideas

Why don't you read his statement, they went out for a meal...
 the receipt gives the PJ a time stamp, and all is itemised on the bill. 
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #346 on: February 05, 2018, 07:57:51 PM »
Why don't you read his statement, they went out for a meal...
 the receipt gives the PJ a time stamp, and all is itemised on the bill.



Doesn't tell us who drunk what

They had a meal and then more to drink in Kelly's bar... So how much did he have to drink
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #347 on: February 05, 2018, 08:05:11 PM »
Martin Smith said they left the Dolphin at9...aoefie days 9.30..
Who is telling the truth... And who isn't.. And why the discrepancy

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #348 on: February 05, 2018, 08:15:15 PM »
Aoife was correct with the times and she did not drink alcohol.

Regarding the 3rd of May, 2007, she went, with all her family, to eat at the Dolphin restaurant, which is close to Kelly's Bar. When they left the restaurant, around 21H30, they headed toward Kelly's Bar. They stayed there for about 30 minutes.

— Around 22H00, they left Kelly's Bar. The group headed, on foot, for their apartment.

— Questioned, she responds that she knows the time that they left because her father and her brother decided to leave early that night. There were two reasons for this: one was the fact that her sister-in-law was not feeling very well and the other was because her brother, sister-in-law, nephew and son of her sister-in-law finished their holiday the next day and had to catch the morning flight returning to Ireland.

— Upon leaving the bar, they turned right and headed along the road for 40/50 metres. At this point, they again turned to the right and ascended a small street with stairs that give access to Rua 25 de Abril. As they were a large group (four adults and five children) they travelled apart from each other along the street with some more to the front and the others more behind. She does not remember how they were divided [who was where].

— The deponent remembers that upon reaching the top of the stairs, she looked to her left and saw a man (1) with a female child (2) in his arms, walking along the pavement of Rua 25 de Abril. He was walking in her direction at a distance of, give or take, two metres. AS
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Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #349 on: February 05, 2018, 08:18:39 PM »
Aoife saw Smithman's face at the time so she could be a crucial witness in this case. He passed her underneath the light at the top of the stairs.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #350 on: February 05, 2018, 08:19:33 PM »
Aoife saw Smithman's face at the time so she could be a crucial witness in this case.

And she said she could not remember it.... Another great witness

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #351 on: February 05, 2018, 08:21:08 PM »
Maybe something triggered her memory. I believe there's a good possibility.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #352 on: February 05, 2018, 08:23:10 PM »
Maybe something triggered her memory. I believe there's a good possibility.

Maybe.... Another great witness

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #353 on: February 05, 2018, 08:28:45 PM »
Martin Smith said they left the Dolphin at9...aoefie days 9.30..
Who is telling the truth... And who isn't.. And why the discrepancy
They are two individuals.
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Offline Lace

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #354 on: February 05, 2018, 08:30:43 PM »
You have nothing to worry about then.

Erm, my food had arrived, well my food had arrived I think by this point. And, and then Kate, erm, erm, returned, erm, obviously Jane wasn’t there but the rest of us were still there, and she came through and, you know, into the portal, I didn’t see her arrive, but the first thing really we recall then is, erm, is, is Kate shouting across from the, from the reception area and perhaps she didn’t come particularly close.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/RUSSELL-OBRIEN_ROGATORY.htm


Russell O'Brian -


 Reply    “’Kate left the table, there was nothing significant about her leaving, but I think it was a similar time to my meal arriving’.  Oh yeah, yeah, I suppose that’s a point, erm.  There it might say ‘The Tapas staff kindly re-cooked my main course’, because I got back at twenty-one forty-five, but the food was probably, you know, the best part of ten minutes later before I got it”.


Ten minutes later before he got his food,  so that would make it five to ten before he got his meal,  he eats half of it and Kate gives the alert so that would probably been about 10o'clock which is what time they said Kate made the alert.

The Smith sighting was 10 o'clock,   so again,  sorry Gerry wasn't Smithman.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #355 on: February 05, 2018, 08:31:27 PM »
They are two individuals.

They are relating to the, same event... So who is, telling the, truth and who isn't.... Simple question

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #356 on: February 05, 2018, 08:33:46 PM »
Aoife saw Smithman's face at the time so she could be a crucial witness in this case. He passed her underneath the light at the top of the stairs.
But she was not one of the Smiths who made the E-fits.  Very strange.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #357 on: February 05, 2018, 08:37:00 PM »
Maybe something triggered her memory. I believe there's a good possibility.
As happened To Dianne Webster after talking to the others.  Either collaboration  or  generation of false memories could play a big factor here with Aoife.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #358 on: February 05, 2018, 08:44:43 PM »
They are relating to the, same event... So who is, telling the, truth and who isn't.... Simple question
Aoife could have stayed a little longer.
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Offline misty

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #359 on: February 05, 2018, 08:50:11 PM »
Aoife could have stayed a little longer.

None of the group admit in their statements to being in separate locations for a half-hour period.