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Offline G-Unit

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #555 on: February 12, 2018, 10:27:46 AM »
smith thinks he may have seen gerry.....Gerry is not a suspect which would indicate both police forces do not think it was gerry. What I would like to see is an appeal in portugal for smithman...it appears there has never been one

The Crimewatch programme;

Clips of the programme are available from the Metropolitan Police Service’s Press Bureau and have been shown on Portuguese television this week.
http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/press/78oct13/Portugal_17_10_2013.htm
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Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #556 on: February 12, 2018, 10:33:06 AM »
The Crimewatch programme;

Clips of the programme are available from the Metropolitan Police Service’s Press Bureau and have been shown on Portuguese television this week.
http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/press/78oct13/Portugal_17_10_2013.htm
Clips from the program could be vastly different to broadcasting the whole program.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #557 on: February 12, 2018, 10:35:11 AM »
The Crimewatch programme;

Clips of the programme are available from the Metropolitan Police Service’s Press Bureau and have been shown on Portuguese television this week.
http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/press/78oct13/Portugal_17_10_2013.htm

portugal is the most important country re the appeal...the programme wasnt shown

Offline G-Unit

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #558 on: February 12, 2018, 01:04:39 PM »
I think someone said 'no appeal in Portugal', but if the Met didn't include the e-fits in their releases I would be very surprised.

Two Portuguese TV stations offered to show the programme but the BBC refused;

“The BBC said they are not selling the rights”, Martim Cabral told The Portugal News, “therefore we cannot show it.”

Another Portuguese news channel, TVI, told The Portugal News that it had contacted the British national broadcaster prior to the airing of the show, as it sought to “acquire the programme for Portugal, which was denied.”
http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/press/78oct13/Portugal_17_10_2013.htm
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Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #559 on: February 12, 2018, 01:12:04 PM »
I think someone said 'no appeal in Portugal', but if the Met didn't include the e-fits in their releases I would be very surprised.

Two Portuguese TV stations offered to show the programme but the BBC refused;

“The BBC said they are not selling the rights”, Martim Cabral told The Portugal News, “therefore we cannot show it.”

Another Portuguese news channel, TVI, told The Portugal News that it had contacted the British national broadcaster prior to the airing of the show, as it sought to “acquire the programme for Portugal, which was denied.”
http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/press/78oct13/Portugal_17_10_2013.htm

A very strange decision.

Quite why the BBC would allow other countries except Portugal to show the programme is beyond me.

One for the investigative journalists.
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Offline Carana

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #560 on: February 12, 2018, 01:31:35 PM »
A very strange decision.

Quite why the BBC would allow other countries except Portugal to show the programme is beyond me.

One for the investigative journalists.

Who said that the BBC wouldn't allow Portugal to show it?

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Some countries had an equivalent programme at the time, there may therefore have been a reciprocal arrangement with those.

Clips were made available on the Internet for use by any broadcaster.

"...When questioned as to the reasons for Crimewatch not being shown in Portugal, the Metropolitan Police Service responded that there is no such show in Portugal, while the UK, Ireland, Germany and the Netherlands have regular television programmes appealing for viewers’ assistance in solving crime.

Portuguese police would therefore be unable to force any of the country’s networks to alter scheduling unless they unilaterally decided to do so.

Clips of the programme are available from the Metropolitan Police Service’s Press Bureau and have been shown on Portuguese television this week.

The BBC, in response to questions from The Portugal News over Crimewatch failing to make it on to the television screens of viewers in the country where Madeleine McCann disappeared, explained: “We have provided clips of the Crimewatch programme to international broadcasters to assist them in their coverage of the appeal, and the Crimewatch film is available on the BBC Crimewatch website to international audiences.

“The decision on broadcasting an appeal on an equivalent programme in Portugal is a matter for the Portuguese broadcasters, Portuguese police and The Metropolitan Police”, the statement read.

The Deputy Director of News at Sic Television was meanwhile reported to have exchanged e-mails with the BBC in the days running up to the Crimewatch programme in order to secure the rights to the full programme, but to no avail.

“The BBC said they are not selling the rights”, Martim Cabral told The Portugal News, “therefore we cannot show it.”
Another Portuguese news channel, TVI, told The Portugal News that it had contacted the British national broadcaster prior to the airing of the show, as it sought to “acquire the programme for Portugal, which was denied.”
“Should the BBC change its position and should TVI continue to show an interest, it is certain that we will look at transmitting the programme in question.

“TVI has also requested the BBC clarify this situation with British media to avoid more erroneous interpretations, such as those claiming Portuguese television channels are not interested in transmitting the programme.”


http://www.theportugalnews.com/news/crimewatch-aired-in-uk-ireland-netherlands-germany-but-why-not-portugal/29659
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #561 on: February 12, 2018, 01:40:14 PM »
Who said that the BBC wouldn't allow Portugal to show it?

“The BBC said they are not selling the rights”, Martim Cabral told The Portugal News, “therefore we cannot show it.”

Another Portuguese news channel, TVI, told The Portugal News that it had contacted the British national broadcaster prior to the airing of the show, as it sought to “acquire the programme for Portugal, which was denied.”

The BBC wouldn't sell the rights to Portuguese TV stations, ergo they weren't allowed to show it.

What's confusing for you about that?
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Offline Carana

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #562 on: February 12, 2018, 01:41:24 PM »
“The BBC said they are not selling the rights”, Martim Cabral told The Portugal News, “therefore we cannot show it.”

Another Portuguese news channel, TVI, told The Portugal News that it had contacted the British national broadcaster prior to the airing of the show, as it sought to “acquire the programme for Portugal, which was denied.”

The BBC wouldn't sell the rights to Portuguese TV stations, ergo they weren't allowed to show it.

What's confusing for you about that?

Read above.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #563 on: February 12, 2018, 01:43:48 PM »
Read above.

I read it.

They wouldn't allow Portuguese stations to buy the rights.

Seems pretty clear to me.
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Offline Carana

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #564 on: February 12, 2018, 01:53:04 PM »
I read it.

They wouldn't allow Portuguese stations to buy the rights.

Seems pretty clear to me.

Were the rights open for purchase in the first place?

There may have been a financial arrangement for broadcasters with a similar programme, which doesn't appear to be the case in Portugal, or there may simply have been an existing quid pro quo arrangement for broadcasters with a similar public service programme.

"The BBC, in response to questions from The Portugal News over Crimewatch failing to make it on to the television screens of viewers in the country where Madeleine McCann disappeared, explained: “We have provided clips of the Crimewatch programme to international broadcasters to assist them in their coverage of the appeal, and the Crimewatch film is available on the BBC Crimewatch website to international audiences.

“The decision on broadcasting an appeal on an equivalent programme in Portugal is a matter for the Portuguese broadcasters, Portuguese police and The Metropolitan Police”, the statement read."


Was clearance given by the PJ?





Offline G-Unit

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #565 on: February 12, 2018, 02:02:11 PM »
The Portuguese TV programmes seemed to have no need to consult the PJ about which programmes they chose to buy and show.
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Offline Carana

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« Reply #566 on: February 12, 2018, 02:14:46 PM »
The Portuguese TV programmes seemed to have no need to consult the PJ about which programmes they chose to buy and show.

They had access to the clips for free - and used them (I watched them).

Offline G-Unit

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #567 on: February 12, 2018, 05:48:52 PM »
They had access to the clips for free - and used them (I watched them).

Including the e-fits?
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Offline Carana

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« Reply #568 on: February 12, 2018, 06:18:49 PM »
Including the e-fits?

That would take time to check back on now.

Someone did upload a Crimewatch extract with the e-fits (if you mean the last two) with a voiceover in Portuguese, but that may not be what appeared on PT TV at the time.

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #569 on: February 25, 2018, 03:23:04 PM »
A very strange decision.

Quite why the BBC would allow other countries except Portugal to show the programme is beyond me.

One for the investigative journalists.

Nothing the BBC does surprises me at all. we look at the David Kelly story how that broke, Cliff Richards, treatment, the scandal about 'fixing' voting on a children's show,not to mention the pro brexit campaigns THEY so push. The 'question time' audiences  and panel have been 4 for and 1 brexiteer. hardly neutral broadcasting- and then we have that other little scandal about equal pay- the Jimmy Saville  open secrets. IMHO A vile company should be disbanded or left to fund themselves.
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