Does anyone know more about this sighting? Costa-del-Sol

[G-Unit]

The first mention of Mrs Sisson is on May 3rd when Clarke invites Sisson to contact him. He then sets to work on his story, and seems to have shared it with UK newspapers even before he published it. Beginning on 7th May the story appears in The Sun first, then in four other newspapers on 8th. The details are below.

Karen Sisson at this point is reported to have contacted the Spanish police, the Gibraltarian Police and Crimestoppers in 2007.

She speaks to Rob after another 6 years and reveals new information. Firstly, an email in 2008 to the McCann site wherein she refers to the Nerja sighting. I can find no reports of that sighting until 2012 though. She also says that a Portuguese policeman contacted her after she contacted the BBC in 2007. She now says she reported her sighting to the Portuguese police, Metodo 3 and Sky.

So altogether she says she told the police in Spain, Portugal, and Gibraltar, and spoke to Crimestoppers. She also spoke to the BBC and Metodo 3 and e-mailed the McCanns and Sky. Despite the huge publicity surrounding Madeleine's disappearance, not one of them saw fit to respond (except, allegedly, an unnamed Portuguese police officer).

It seems none of her efforts made it's way to the official investigation because she isn't in the official files. There are reports of sightings from Spain and Gibraltar, so it's anyone's guess why they ignored her reports.

In my opinion Mrs Sisson is either exaggerating her efforts or there was a very serious problem for people trying to report things from day one. Perhaps the publicity generated so much information that it proved impossible to deal with it.

The Sun 7th May 2012 11 pm.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/archives/news/595207/3-new-clues-to-maddie/
The Mail Online published it 8th May 2012 08.39
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2141100/Madeleine-McCann-spotted-Costa-del-Sol-campsite-3-days-went-missing.html#ixzz56TOqfjtl
In the Olive Press on 8th May 2012 at 11.23. She said she;
contacted police in three different countries to investigate.
The contacts were;
British and Spanish police .........again I contacted Crimestoppers and even my local Gibraltarian police.
Operation Grange were also notified in 2012
http://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2012/05/08/did-german-couple-snatch-maddie-mccann
The Evening Standard were quick off the mark on the same day; 8th May 2012 at 13.41
The Star too, on 8th May 2012 but no publishing time;
https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2012/05/08/new_madeleine_mccann_sightings_probed_by_uk_police_reports.html

[Alice Purjorick]

I can understand why some sceptics might wish to ridicule requests for funding by the highly professional body involved in the search for a child missing for nearly eleven years.

As far as I am concerned the salient points are

• it is not a flippant request based on self interest designed to keep the investigation team in work ... they've all got jobs anyway
• they are professionals who, when or if they reach the end of the road ... will tidy up ... call it quits for the time being ... and move on to the next job
• the fact the request has been made for further funding strongly suggests they think it is worthwhile continuing with Madeleine's case
• the fact the request for further funding has been made strongly suggests they have information which will justify the request for the continuation of the search for Madeleine

The proof of the pudding will be in the eating and that will be if the case they present will convince government ministers to accede to the request for more funding.

Do I sniff the ordure of yet another letter writing campaign of objection to any positive glimmer of news or hope concerning Madeleine McCann? The "good work" must be kept going it seems so why not?  Although in my opinion on pondering why the vitriol aimed at any positive moves on behalf of this little girl ... one really does have to question the motives behind it all.

Not from me you don't.
I was merely taking the Mickey Bliss out Brunty retreading a piece from a year ago. When on a good band wagon why jump off? But then I believe you realised that.
If your 20th century history is up to scratch you will understand the reference to Johnson and Westmoreland.
The proof of the pudding btw will be the resolution of the case with the guilty parties whomsoever they may be punished to the full extent the law allows.

[Robittybob1]

G-unit why did you include Metodo 3 in this list?

"She speaks to Rob after another 6 years and reveals new information. Firstly, an email in 2008 to the McCann site wherein she refers to the Nerja sighting. I can find no reports of that sighting until 2012 though. She also says that a Portuguese policeman contacted her after she contacted the BBC in 2007. She now says she reported her sighting to the Portuguese police, Metodo 3 and Sky."

[G-Unit]

G-unit why did you include Metodo 3 in this list?

"She speaks to Rob after another 6 years and reveals new information. Firstly, an email in 2008 to the McCann site wherein she refers to the Nerja sighting. I can find no reports of that sighting until 2012 though. She also says that a Portuguese policeman contacted her after she contacted the BBC in 2007. She now says she reported her sighting to the Portuguese police, Metodo 3 and Sky."

Your post 261

 I reported to the Portuguese police, the Gibraltarian Police, the BBC and Metodo 3

[Robittybob1]

Your post 261

 I reported to the Portuguese police, the Gibraltarian Police, the BBC and Metodo 3

I have asked her again and she has never been contacted or had real contact with Metodo 3 but she had "heard of them".  [I was surprised she had heard of them.]
In the email sent to Kate and Gerry:
"I was one of the viewers of GMTV who heard the very original appeal on the morning of the 4th May. I live in Gibraltar which is a very safe place and the fact that such a thing could happen fairly near to here seemed to make it more real for me. I followed the case on Sky and had Madeleine very much in my mind when that very weekend Sun 6th and Mon 7th May 2007, I went with my family to a campsite near Marbella for the bank holiday weekend, where I saw a little girl who looked very like Madeleine in strange circumstances, which I reported to the Portuguese police, the Gibraltarian Police, the BBC and Metodo 3 and no-one has ever come back to me to assure me that my sighting has been followed up and ruled out. The Portuguese Police did ring me to ask some detail but said that they would look into it and that they had several hundred leads to follow up."  end quote.

That email was written back in 2008, so all those things had happened prior to that.  I now get the impression she might have rung Metodo 3 and left information on a type of phone message thing.  There was a documentary about them and it was stated they never even checked those hotlines.

When she comes back on line I will ask her if that was the case?  It is basically what she is saying now - she left messages at all of those places but no one (bar the PJ) got back to her, and she even felt let down by the response of the PJ officer over the phone. 

[Miss Taken Identity]

I has asked her again and she has never been contacted or had real contact with Metodo 3 but she had heard of them. 
"I was one of the viewers of GMTV who heard the very original appeal on the morning of the 4th May. I live in Gibraltar which is a very safe place and the fact that such a thing could happen fairly near to here seemed to make it more real for me. I followed the case on Sky and had Madeleine very much in my mind when that very weekend Sun 6th and Mon 7th May 2007, I went with my family to a campsite near Marbella for the bank holiday weekend, where I saw a little girl who looked very like Madeleine in strange circumstances, which I reported to the Portuguese police, the Gibraltarian Police, the BBC and Metodo 3 and no-one has ever come back to me to assure me that my sighting has been followed up and ruled out. The Portuguese Police did ring me to ask some detail but said that they would look into it and that they had several hundred leads to follow up.

That email was written back in 2008 so all those things had happened prior to that.  I now get the impression she might have rung Motodo 3 and left information on a type of phone message thing, but there was a documentary about them and they never even checked those hotlines.

When she comes back on line I will ask her if that was the case?  It is basically what she is saying now - she left messages at all of those places but no one (bar the PJ) got back to her, and she even felt let down by the response of the PJ officer over the phone.

So no one took her seriously she claims. I wonder why that is because the PJ were getting a lot of flack I feel it rather strange they wouldn't want to solve this case.  In fact I feel the whole story rather strange. I mean could she not have called out the childs name, and the child allegedly not being in a happy mood and distant and wearing dirty clothes - do children not wear dirty clothes camping?

The picture painted by the parents is: Madeleine would give her 'abductor' her penny's worth meaning a bit of cheek  and challenge them in some way. as she did her parents allegedly.

[Robittybob1]

So no one took her seriously she claims. I wonder why that is because the PJ were getting a lot of flack I feel it rather strange they wouldn't want to solve this case.  In fact I feel the whole story rather strange. I mean could she not have called out the childs name, and the child allegedly not being in a happy mood and distant and wearing dirty clothes - do children not wear dirty clothes camping?

The picture painted by the parents is: Madeleine would give her 'abductor' her penny's worth meaning a bit of cheek  and challenge them in some way. as she did her parents allegedly.

We are not all the same.  Some might have called out her name, and others wouldn't.  We can't undo what was done.  Karen tried the best the way she did trying to get help through the official channels.
And you must admit she did it fast.  I was looking at the incident at Barcelona with the Victoria Beckham lady and those men didn't report it for over two years!

It was so hot kids were basically running around undressed but not this girl.

We don't know what had happened prior to this.  Was she still drugged, had she had an accident?  We don't know.  It looked like Madeleine but she was NOT behaving normal [as in general child behaviour at that camping ground].

And now we know about it, and I'm trying to think is there anything that still can be done to sort it out?

Even Karen expressed concern that they just let someone brush it off by saying it was my daughter. (That was on a Skype conversation and no recording was made.) You have to take my word for that sorry.

[Miss Taken Identity]

We are not all the same.  Some might have called out her name, and others wouldn't.  We can't undo what was done.  Karen tried the best the way she did trying to get help through the official channels.
And you must admit she did it fast.  I was looking at the incident at Barcelona with the Victoria Beckham lady and those men didn't report it for over two years!

It was so hot kids were basically running around undressed but not this girl.

We don't know what had happened prior to this.  Was she still drugged, had she had an accident?  We don't know.  It looked like Madeleine but she was NOT behaving normal.

And now we know about it, and I'm trying to think is there anything that still can be done to sort it out?

Even Karen expressed concern that they just let someone brush it off by saying it was my daughter. (That was on a Skype conversation and no recording was made.) You have to take my word for that sorry.

What response did she get from the parents. She contacted them you said?

[G-Unit]

I have asked her again and she has never been contacted or had real contact with Metodo 3 but she had "heard of them".  [I was surprised she had heard of them.]
In the email sent to Kate and Gerry:
"I was one of the viewers of GMTV who heard the very original appeal on the morning of the 4th May. I live in Gibraltar which is a very safe place and the fact that such a thing could happen fairly near to here seemed to make it more real for me. I followed the case on Sky and had Madeleine very much in my mind when that very weekend Sun 6th and Mon 7th May 2007, I went with my family to a campsite near Marbella for the bank holiday weekend, where I saw a little girl who looked very like Madeleine in strange circumstances, which I reported to the Portuguese police, the Gibraltarian Police, the BBC and Metodo 3 and no-one has ever come back to me to assure me that my sighting has been followed up and ruled out. The Portuguese Police did ring me to ask some detail but said that they would look into it and that they had several hundred leads to follow up."  end quote.

That email was written back in 2008, so all those things had happened prior to that.  I now get the impression she might have rung Metodo 3 and left information on a type of phone message thing.  There was a documentary about them and it was stated they never even checked those hotlines.

When she comes back on line I will ask her if that was the case?  It is basically what she is saying now - she left messages at all of those places but no one (bar the PJ) got back to her, and she even felt let down by the response of the PJ officer over the phone.

The ones who spent money on searching because they didn't trust the authorities seem to have been ignoring leads themselves, as were their PI's. All the publicity was wasted if people were ignored when they got in touch, wasn't it?

[Robittybob1]

What response did she get from the parents. She contacted them you said?

She didn't get a direct personal response but in the newspaper article it stated she did the right thing.

Karen Sisson wrote:
"A spokesman for the girl’s parents Kate and Gerry McCann, of Rothley, Leicestershire, said yesterday: “In this particular case the person did the right thing in going to the authorities at the time. It is now in the process of being re-examined by the Metropolitan Police as part of Operation Grange. It’s entirely proper that the police do that work as thoroughly as they can.”
so looks like Operation Grange did look into this.
you know it is hard for someone like me to come forward as you are made to feel like you are a time waster or accusing an innocent person , having read this statement at least I can see that I did the right thing. I have not read this comment before
though no-one from operation grange has rung me I can say that"  End quote.

This following quote was attributed to "the Sun".  "A source close to Kate and Gerry McCann, Madeleine's parents, told The Sun that the sighting had been passed on to Operation Grange, set up by the Metropolitan Police to review the case.
The couple's spokesman said: "This lady has done exactly the right thing in reporting what she saw to the police."" end quote.

It wasn't Karen who outed Karsten Mayer, in fact it isn't quite clear how that happened as there are different versions. 

[Robittybob1]

The ones who spent money on searching because they didn't trust the authorities seem to have been ignoring leads themselves, as were their PI's. All the publicity was wasted if people were ignored when they got in touch, wasn't it?

Most people might think Karsten was cleared.  It was shocking to hear the messages to Metodo 3 were ignored.  The whole thing was too complex for everyone TBH.

[Robittybob1]

Most people might think Karsten was cleared.  It was shocking to hear the messages to Metodo 3 were ignored.  The whole thing was too complex for everyone TBH.

It was when I questioned Karen about the lady who was with Karsten then things became real interesting as she described a Victoria Beckham lookalike.  I  am awaiting for further responses from Karen regarding this,  but what I noticed for the last 11 years is that no one had mentioned or questioned the woman involved.
I have covered some of the Barcelona incident http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=3138.0

[G-Unit]

It was when I questioned Karen about the lady who was with Karsten then things became real interesting as she described a Victoria Beckham lookalike.  I  am awaiting for further responses from Karen regarding this,  but what I noticed for the last 11 years is that no one had mentioned or questioned the woman involved.
I have covered some of the Barcelona incident http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=3138.0

There's one sighting in the case that just won't go away; the one by the Smiths. All else is dross in my opinion.

[Robittybob1]

There's one sighting in the case that just won't go away; the one by the Smiths. All else is dross in my opinion.

Look the Smith's sighting is at 10:00 PM on the 3rd.  If that was a living girl being carried what happened to her the day after?  And the day after that for the last 11 years?   Time isn't going to stand still.
So it must be just one observation in a chain IMO and fact in reality too.

[Robittybob1]

Look at the line in the OP ""Detectives investigating the disappearance of Madeleine McCann are searching for a German couple spotted with a girl matching her description."

They were looking for a couple but only spoke to a man that claimed to be the girl's father.  OK so what about the mother?  Where is she and what does she have to say?
Did she look like the Victoria Beckham lookalike
According to Karen Sisson she was slim dark and spikey hair