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Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #690 on: March 03, 2018, 08:25:09 PM »
Nice recovery Carana "Anyway... to get back on topic, I find this link from Alice particularly interesting:
https://www.surrey.police.uk/policies-and-procedures/e-fit-procedure/"

Well can you comment on the link?
I cannot find Alice's original post on this, which is a shame, because the document has lots of food for thought with regard to the Smithman e-fits.

I need to read it 2 or 3 times more, but it appears to illustrate the Smithman and Tannerman sightings perfectly.

A gem of a source.  Many thanks, Alice.
What's up, old man?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #691 on: March 03, 2018, 08:30:13 PM »
I cannot find Alice's original post on this, which is a shame, because the document has lots of food for thought with regard to the Smithman e-fits.

I need to read it 2 or 3 times more, but it appears to illustrate the Smithman and Tannerman sightings perfectly.

A gem of a source.  Many thanks, Alice.

There is no food for thought... Smith claimed the person he daw based on how the child was carried.. Not on his face... End of

Offline Robittybob1

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #692 on: March 03, 2018, 09:44:36 PM »
There is no food for thought... Smith claimed the person he daw based on how the child was carried.. Not on his face... End of
That is not evidenced in the file.  You have made that mistake because there is not statement taken or at least available at the time of doing the E-fit, so we don't know what it is he is drawing/composing.
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Offline Brietta

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #693 on: March 03, 2018, 09:54:54 PM »
That is not evidenced in the file.  You have made that mistake because there is not statement taken or at least available at the time of doing the E-fit, so we don't know what it is he is drawing/composing.

The private detectives would in my opinion have taken notes if not recordings at the time the efits were constructed; that information would have been passed to Operation Grange when the efits were.
So although we may know nothing, the folk who matter do.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #694 on: March 03, 2018, 09:56:00 PM »
There is no food for thought... Smith claimed the person he daw based on how the child was carried.. Not on his face... End of
I would rank this post as priceless i.e. without price. 
What's up, old man?

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #695 on: March 03, 2018, 09:59:24 PM »
I cannot find Alice's original post on this, which is a shame, because the document has lots of food for thought with regard to the Smithman e-fits.

I need to read it 2 or 3 times more, but it appears to illustrate the Smithman and Tannerman sightings perfectly.

A gem of a source.  Many thanks, Alice.

Here you go then:

A bit of L.B.T.R for one and all:
Read thoroughly inwardly digest and then form an opinion.

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/253831/pace-code-d-2011.pdf
http://library.college.police.uk/docs/acpo/facial-identification-guidance-2009.pdf
https://www.surrey.police.uk/policies-and-procedures/e-fit-procedure/

Note

There are over 100 pages all together. I'd read a bit more than the cover sheets before saddling up [were I you  ?{)(**]
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Offline Brietta

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #696 on: March 03, 2018, 10:03:37 PM »
I would rank this post as priceless i.e. without price.

Priceless?  Martin Smith's identification was based on posture as far as I recall.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #697 on: March 03, 2018, 10:05:47 PM »
Here you go then:

A bit of L.B.T.R for one and all:
Read thoroughly inwardly digest and then form an opinion.

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/253831/pace-code-d-2011.pdf
http://library.college.police.uk/docs/acpo/facial-identification-guidance-2009.pdf
https://www.surrey.police.uk/policies-and-procedures/e-fit-procedure/

Note

There are over 100 pages all together. I'd read a bit more than the cover sheets before saddling up [were I you  ?{)(**]

Alice ... was your original post deleted?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #698 on: March 03, 2018, 10:09:03 PM »
Priceless?  Martin Smith's identification was based on posture as far as I recall.
That would mean you are the second person who has either not read the document or simply not understood its importance.

Alice has set me some homework.  I'll get back to you when I can.   &^&*%
What's up, old man?

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #699 on: March 03, 2018, 10:14:08 PM »
Alice ... was your original post deleted?

No!
SiL said she couldn't find it so I just reposted it being a helpful chappie 'n' all that, in full cognizance it trangresses forum rules. But having always tested high in insubordination and maverick tendencies I can't say I care much...... ?{)(**


 
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Offline Brietta

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #700 on: March 03, 2018, 10:28:51 PM »
No!
SiL said she couldn't find it so I just reposted it being a helpful chappie 'n' all that, in full cognizance it trangresses forum rules. But having always tested high in insubordination and maverick tendencies I can't say I care much...... ?{)(**

That's fine, thank you.
As you are obviously aware if you feel a post has been unfairly removed it is against forum rules for you to reinstate it, John or one of the senior mods will make that decision.
Just makes for the smooth operation of the forum, which is why I was checking with you.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #701 on: March 03, 2018, 10:32:49 PM »
That's fine, thank you.
As you are obviously aware if you feel a post has been unfairly removed it is against forum rules for you to reinstate it, John or one of the senior mods will make that decision.
Just makes for the smooth operation of the forum, which is why I was checking with you.

No problem.
I am not precious about having my posts whooshed anyway. Some of them are fit for little else.... ?>)()<
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Offline misty

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #702 on: March 03, 2018, 10:47:46 PM »
No problem.
I am not precious about having my posts whooshed anyway. Some of them are fit for little else.... ?>)()<

The original post was on another thread & has not been whooshed.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=9195.msg448626#msg448626

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #703 on: March 03, 2018, 11:29:31 PM »
The original post was on another thread & has not been whooshed.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=9195.msg448626#msg448626

I thought I already said it had not been deleted?
I know I am bleedin' clever but even I can't cut and paste from a post that isn't there....... ?{)(**
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Offline misty

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #704 on: March 03, 2018, 11:40:20 PM »
I thought I already said it had not been deleted?
I know I am bleedin' clever but even I can't cut and paste from a post that isn't there....... ?{)(**

What - you mean you don't type all your posts on Word first, take a screenshot as back-up then keep copies on a memory stick?  8)--))