The Smithman e-fits

[Robittybob1]

Do you not realise I was simply stating opinion

I was hoping it was more than that.

[John]

Even G has agreed sil is posting opinion as, fact
I thought you were, an expert on the, case... And sil thinks, she's, a, world expert... All in your inflated opinions.. Imo

Let's keep comments aimiable and above all constructive please.

[Alice Purjorick]

Are you seriously suggesting that I am privy to the same information the investigating authorities hold?  Oh dear!

NB: Do not attempt to put words into my mouth ... that will not be tolerated ... which is why your incorrect implication is removed.  Do not do that again either to me or any other member.

One does wonder just where you believe yourself to be and why you feel your being bombastic will have
any effect ?

It is good for a laugh if nothing else.

[Mr Gray]

Let's keep comments aimiable and above all constructive please.

It's difficult john when some posters, are , allowed to post opinion as fact

[Mr Gray]

I was hoping it was more than that.

It cant be.. Opinion is opinion... Fact is fact

[Robittybob1]

Even G has agreed sil is posting opinion as, fact
I thought you were, an expert on the, case... And sil thinks, she's, a, world expert... All in your inflated opinions.. Imo

Well I certainly hope that all my effort is going to good use.  Getting bogged down in these sorts of arguments is honing my debating but not much else.

It cant be.. Opinion is opinion... Fact is fact

So you say but I gave examples where opinion is claimed to be fact and then covered by IMO at the end.  To me that is not clearly defined opinion.

[John]

That's not how the forum works and you should know that

So if I say maddie was, abducted.. It's a fact... Others have to prove me wrong

Actually no.  Only an abductor, if one exists, could claim this to be a fact.  Everyone else is simply speculating.

In my opinion, she wasn't abducted as there is no evidence to support it.

[Mr Gray]

Actually no.  Only an abductor, if one exists, could claim this to be a fact.  Everyone else is simply speculating.

I agree John.. I'm just trying to explain to Rob that on this forum we do not claim opinion as fact

I accept abduction is not s fact... Highly likely IMO. But not a fact

[Mr Gray]

Well I certainly hope that all my effort is going to good use.  Getting bogged down in these sorts of arguments is honing my debating but not much else.
 So you say but I gave examples where opinion is claimed to be fact and then covered by IMO at the end.  To me that is not clearly defined opinion.

Sil has said her claim re, redwood is fact... Not opinion... It is not

If you want to ignore forum rules it's up to you

[slartibartfast]

Well I certainly hope that all my effort is going to good use.  Getting bogged down in these sorts of arguments is honing my debating but not much else.
 So you say but I gave examples where opinion is claimed to be fact and then covered by IMO at the end.  To me that is not clearly defined opinion.

I think it is a trap some posters fall into.

[Brietta]

We know what HOLMES will do provided the data is entered correctly in the first place. If the info has not been entered up it cannot be retrieved or utilised...simples . When instructed the system will spew out options based on the info that is in the data base, those options then require analysis and interrogation by an expert.

http://www.opkenova.co.uk/intelligence-and-analysis

Uh huh ... so Scotland Yard has a huge very expensive state of the art thingy ... no one capable of entering data ?? ... no one capable of retrieving and collating the data when it spews out ?? that no one had the skill to enter in the first instance ... and no one expert enough to work out what the machine is on about when it does.
Hmmm ... know what, Alice, that all seems highly unlikely to me.

[Brietta]

One does wonder just where you believe yourself to be and why you feel your being bombastic will have
any effect ?

It is good for a laugh if nothing else.

Your comment is off topic said she bombastically.

[sadie]

If the phrase "the hash of the Smith sighting" aligned with your own opinion would you be still wanting a cite?
The question as you rightly pointed out is that opinion or not, is it a fact or not.  Is there such a thing as an opinion that gains so much support it becomes a fact like an unanimous jury decision.  Each jury member has his opinion but the verdict is treated as a fact.

So when has it gained so much support ?  It is most certainly NOT like an unanimous Jury decision, IMO. 

'In my opinions' are needed in this instance, IMO

[misty]

I would be interested to know why people think SY made a hash of presenting Smithman's efit on Crimewatch. DCI Redwood expressed the same interest in this sighting as in the two people seen near the apartment on the day Madeleine went missing and 2 charity collectors. All efits were shown.

ETA link to DCI Redwood on Crimewatch https://youtu.be/OZ8jmdWlB8Y?t=1740

[sadie]

I would be interested to know why people think SY made a hash of presenting Smithman's efit on Crimewatch. DCI Redwood expressed the same interest in this sighting as in the two people seen near the apartment on the day Madeleine went missing and 2 charity collectors. All efits were shown.

Nail on the head, as usual, misty