The Smithman e-fits

[Robittybob1]

In red bold... sooooo this means? SMith man has come forward OR they know or suspect they know who Smithman is... hmmmm Oooh I say...

Wouldn't it mean they are looking at some line of inquiry which doesn't involve the Smithman e-fits?

[Miss Taken Identity]

Wouldn't it mean they are looking at some line of inquiry which doesn't involve the Smithman e-fits?

It could also mean that Rob.  as well  as the other ones I mentioned.

[G-Unit]

Time travellers?
So Oakley were axed in August 2008 then handed over their files tout de suite to the MPS, who at that stage were steering well clear of the case, rather than hand it to the Portuguese on whose soil the crime if any was committed ?.
One wonders what Oakley found that prompted them to contact the MPS ?

Curiouser and curiouser

If that's true the information was given to the MPS immediately it was produced. According to the Fund/McCanns it wasn't given to the PJ and LP until 2009, and to OG in 2011.

As yet, however, I have been unable to find this request and reply on any official MPS websites.

[G-Unit]

Taken from a post today on YouKnowWhere

From the Metropolitan Police
 
Dear Mr Bxxxxx
 
Freedom of Information Request Reference No: 2018030000241
 
I write in connection with your request for information which was received
by the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) on 03/03/2018.

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QUESTION
4 Two efits of a person suspected of being Madeleine's abductor were  shown on a TV programme, Crimewatch, on 14 October 2013:
A  On what date did Operation Grange first receive these efits?
B  From whom?
C  Is Operation Grange still seeking the public's help in identifying
this man?
 
ANSWER: These efits were received by the Operation Grange team in September 2008 as part of a dossier of material handed to the MPS by private  investigators that had been working on the case.  The MPS will not comment on whether identifications have or have not been made however the efits do  not form part of any current appeal.
 
Should you have any further enquiries concerning this matter, please contact me on 0207 161 3583 or via email at [email address],
quoting the reference number above.
 
Yours sincerely
 
David Edwards
Information Rights Unit

I notice some daring posters are disagreeing with the official line about the Smiths. It must be allowed after all.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I notice some daring posters are disagreeing with the official line about the Smiths. It must be allowed after all.

???

[Vertigo Swirl]

Time travellers?
So Oakley were axed in August 2008 then handed over their files tout de suite to the MPS, who at that stage were steering well clear of the case, rather than hand it to the Portuguese on whose soil the crime if any was committed ?.
One wonders what Oakley found that prompted them to contact the MPS ?

Curiouser and curiouser

I trust that the person who wrote the FOI request in the first place will be on the phone to David Edwards first thing Tuesday morning to clear up this vitally important issue.

[barrier]

If that's true the information was given to the MPS immediately it was produced. According to the Fund/McCanns it wasn't given to the PJ and LP until 2009, and to OG in 2011.

As yet, however, I have been unable to find this request and reply on any official MPS websites.

This one G?

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/madeleine_mccann_case_operation#incoming-1135160

I wonder if the recipient is notified before its published on the met site.

[barrier]

When did Operation Grange commence?  Is that the question?

The MPS were involved from the get go,it didn't need a name just under the umbrella of Operation Task.

[G-Unit]

This one G?

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/madeleine_mccann_case_operation#incoming-1135160

I wonder if the recipient is notified before its published on the met site.

Thanks, Barrier. The plot thickens. So some unnamed private investigators gave the Met some information about a case they weren't investigating?

[Mr Gray]

Thanks, Barrier. The plot thickens. So some unnamed private investigators gave the Met some information about a case they weren't investigating?

It isn't the plot that is thickening it's, the confusion amongst armchair sleuths

[jassi]

Thanks, Barrier. The plot thickens. So some unnamed private investigators gave the Met some information about a case they weren't investigating?

Was CEOP part of the Met at that time ? What else was in the dossier?

[G-Unit]

Was CEOP part of the Met at that time ? What else was in the dossier?

It seems to have been an independent body until it was absorbed into the NPA in 2013.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_Exploitation_and_Online_Protection_Command

[G-Unit]

It isn't the plot that is thickening it's, the confusion amongst armchair sleuths

It's the first time that anyone has suggested that the information was handed to anyone except the directors of Madeleine's Fund/the McCanns before 2009.

[Vertigo Swirl]

It's the first time that anyone has suggested that the information was handed to anyone except the directors of Madeleine's Fund/the McCanns before 2009.

Does that mean people can stop accusing the McCanns of witholding so-called vital evidence, as has been done in the past?

[Carana]

The MPS were involved from the get go,it didn't need a name just under the umbrella of Operation Task.

I was just thinking that.

The Op Task debrief was published some time in 2009. I find it unlikely that the operation shut down overnight when the case was archived. Unless that's the case, the efits would presumably have been fed into the database.

Grange inherited the work already done by Task, so I don't see the issue, beyond referring to the later op name as opposed to the earlier one.

Nitpicking re the name is less important, IMO, than the accusation that the McCanns had sat on them until years later, with insinuations of having deliberately done so for some nefarious reason.