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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #1185 on: March 23, 2018, 06:49:23 AM »
So the cadaver odour is not proven... As, the court says... And is not undisputed... As, the court says... So is the court wrong on both  counts
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #1186 on: March 23, 2018, 08:04:33 AM »
Quote from: Robittybob1 on March 22, 2018, 08:56:16 PM
It says "considered proven"  doesn't mean proven, just not disputed by the parties.

Do you now accept you are wrong rob
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #1187 on: March 23, 2018, 08:14:22 AM »
Quote from: Robittybob1 on March 22, 2018, 08:56:16 PM
It says "considered proven"  doesn't mean proven, just not disputed by the parties.

As it is not disputed it is accepted by the parties.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #1188 on: March 23, 2018, 08:17:11 AM »
Quote from: slartibartfast on March 23, 2018, 08:14:22 AM
As it is not disputed it is accepted by the parties.

It clearly isn't.... So the court must therefore be wrong.... It clearly isn't proven... So once, again the court must be wrong... My opinion and your post needs a similar caveat...
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #1189 on: March 23, 2018, 08:25:39 AM »
Quote from: Davel on March 23, 2018, 08:17:11 AM
It clearly isn't.... So the court must therefore be wrong.... It clearly isn't proven... So once, again the court must be wrong... My opinion and your post needs a similar caveat...

Where is the court case disputing it?
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #1190 on: March 23, 2018, 08:36:52 AM »
Quote from: slartibartfast on March 23, 2018, 08:25:39 AM
Where is the court case disputing it?
I thought the McCanns were taking the case to the ECHR?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #1191 on: March 23, 2018, 08:41:13 AM »
Quote from: slartibartfast on March 23, 2018, 08:25:39 AM
Where is the court case disputing it?

Where is the court case proving the alerts
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Offline jassi

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #1192 on: March 23, 2018, 08:48:14 AM »
Quote from: Vertigo Swirl on March 23, 2018, 08:36:52 AM
I thought the McCanns were taking the case to the ECHR?

Allegedly but no one knows for certain, nor what grounds they would make the appeal.
It's one of these wait and see things.
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Offline barrier

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #1193 on: March 23, 2018, 08:54:05 AM »
Quote from: Faithlilly on March 22, 2018, 10:50:29 PM
How is that going ?


It might take some time a recent judgement at the echr started way back in 1978,Ireland v The United Kingdom for reference.

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Offline barrier

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #1194 on: March 23, 2018, 08:54:54 AM »
Quote from: Vertigo Swirl on March 23, 2018, 08:36:52 AM
I thought the McCanns were taking the case to the ECHR?

A case v Portugal its not known just what they are contesting.
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Offline barrier

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #1195 on: March 23, 2018, 08:58:07 AM »
Quote from: Davel on March 23, 2018, 08:17:11 AM
It clearly isn't.... So the court must therefore be wrong.... It clearly isn't proven... So once, again the court must be wrong... My opinion and your post needs a similar caveat...

Do you accept therefore that the judgement against Amaral was wrong then?
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #1196 on: March 23, 2018, 09:04:13 AM »
Quote from: barrier on March 23, 2018, 08:54:54 AM
A case v Portugal its not known just what they are contesting.
the verdict of the Portuguese court I would have thought, but perhaps that's too obvious.
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Offline jassi

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #1197 on: March 23, 2018, 09:07:49 AM »
Quote from: Vertigo Swirl on March 23, 2018, 09:04:13 AM
the verdict of the Portuguese court I would have thought, but perhaps that's too obvious.

Not agreeing with Portuguese Court verdict is unlikely to a suitable ground for bringing a case.
There will need to be something specific that breaches human rights.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #1198 on: March 23, 2018, 09:11:06 AM »
Quote from: jassi on March 23, 2018, 09:07:49 AM
Not agreeing with Portuguese Court verdict is unlikely to a suitable ground for bringing a case.
There will need to be something specific that breaches human rights.

Defamation
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #1199 on: March 23, 2018, 09:12:14 AM »
Quote from: Davel on March 23, 2018, 09:11:06 AM
Defamation

Of which the truth is a defends.
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