Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence

[Robittybob1]

OK so the DCICPT is a branch of the PJ dealing with analysis.  We might have called it internal audit, or Standards.

So do we end up with one part of the PJ disputing what another part has found?  What I found out in my profession was that the "Standards Group's" decisions over ruled the verifiers on the ground.

Or did in this case Goncalo Amaral just ignore what the DCICPT found?

[Mr Gray]

OK so the DCICPT is a branch of the PJ dealing with analysis.  We might have called it internal audit, or Standards.

So do we end up with one part of the PJ disputing what another part has found?  What I found out in my profession was that the "Standards Group's" decisions over ruled the verifiers on the ground.

Or did in this case Goncalo Amaral just ignore what the DCICPT found?

Amaral ignored, Grime and Harrison... Which is, more important

[Robittybob1]

Amaral ignored, Grime and Harrison... Which is, more important

You can do what you like to the UK cops but you must not cross the DCICPT!  You have to show obedience.  IMO.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PHONE_TEXTS.htm

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/ANALYSIS-11-VOLUMES.htm

Feasibility Study on the creation of a database on investigations and prosecutions"  http://193.62.18.232/postgrad/JAI_AGIS/Volume%202/National%20Reports/Portugal.doc 

[Mr Gray]

You can do what you like to the UK cops but you must not cross the DCICPT!  You have to show obedience.  IMO.

Amaral ignored the, experts.. Grime and, Harrison

[misty]

OK so the DCICPT is a branch of the PJ dealing with analysis.  We might have called it internal audit, or Standards.

So do we end up with one part of the PJ disputing what another part has found?  What I found out in my profession was that the "Standards Group's" decisions over ruled the verifiers on the ground.

Or did in this case Goncalo Amaral just ignore what the DCICPT found?

Amaral had been removed by Feb 2008, when that report was written.

[Robittybob1]

Amaral had been removed by Feb 2008, when that report was written.

Did he take no notice of it when he came to writing his book? 

[misty]

Did he take no notice of it when he came to writing his book?

No. He shouldn't have had access to it anyway.

[Robittybob1]

No. He shouldn't have had access to it anyway.

I read the other day that GA was kept in the loop on the case even though he had resigned.  I have no idea where the cite is now sorry.

[G-Unit]

Amaral ignored the, experts.. Grime and, Harrison

He's not the only one.

[Robittybob1]

He's not the only one.

One of Davel's guessing games again?

[Mr Gray]

He's not the only one.

No he isn't... You have too
You claimed that according  to grime the alerts, we're triggered by cadaver, of our... Which is, of course not true
Grime said initially it was possible the, alerts, were to cadaver and later changed that to suggestive



Given that Grime's opinion was that these alerts were triggered by cadaver scent[/font......from your post

[Brietta]

No he isn't... You have too
You claimed that according  to grime the alerts, we're triggered by cadaver, of our... Which is, of course not true
Grime said initially it was possible the, alerts, were to cadaver and later changed that to suggestive



Given that Grime's opinion was that these alerts were triggered by cadaver scent[/font......from your post

 ... and therein lies the puzzle of precisely what is classed as "cadaver odour" which can be a varied soup made up of many constituents.

In my opinion amateur interpretation of any points of interest shown by Eddie in Luz are very much a case of running before learning to walk. 

[slartibartfast]

... and therein lies the puzzle of precisely what is classed as "cadaver odour" which can be a varied soup made up of many constituents.

In my opinion amateur interpretation of any points of interest shown by Eddie in Luz are very much a case of running before learning to walk.

... or lack of interest.

[G-Unit]

... or lack of interest.

Or imaginings about tired, hot or thirsty dogs, pork crackling, bacon sarnies, fertilizer, kebabs etc. etc....

[Mr Gray]

... and therein lies the puzzle of precisely what is classed as "cadaver odour" which can be a varied soup made up of many constituents.

In my opinion amateur interpretation of any points of interest shown by Eddie in Luz are very much a case of running before learning to walk.

That's why I have never really speculated, about what the alerts, are too... That us, Grimes job and he cannot tell us for certain
We have the claim to an alert to CC which does not look very convvincing
We have the pj raising questions, about the quality of most if the other alerts
But Grime tells us none if them have any evidential reliability so it doesn't really matter