Author Topic: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence  (Read 178836 times)

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Offline barrier

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #675 on: March 11, 2018, 04:05:53 PM »
There might be a reason as to why the police force deemed most suitable to take up the case wasn't one with the least experience...

Which if it fails,then the experience means jack all.
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Offline Carana

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #676 on: March 11, 2018, 04:23:44 PM »
Which if it fails,then the experience means jack all.

Not all cases are solved, sadly, however competent the force may be.

Offline Brietta

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #677 on: March 11, 2018, 04:40:26 PM »
No idea. All we do know for certain is what the various police officers have said over the years and Redwood said abduction may not be the lead OG is following.

In my opinion you've got that entirely wrong.

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Mr Rowley said there was no ‘definitive evidence’ as to whether Madeleine is alive or dead.

He added: ‘That’s why we describe it as a missing person inquiry. We understand why, after this many years, people will be pessimistic, but it’s important we keep an open mind.’ The officer added that however Madeleine left the apartment, she was abducted.

http://metro.co.uk/2017/04/25/madeleine-mccann-police-following-significant-leads-as-10th-anniversary-approaches-6595974/?ito=cbshare
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

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Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #678 on: March 11, 2018, 04:44:46 PM »
Not all cases are solved, sadly, however competent the force may be.

Then the expertise that SY are supposed to bring may not be all its cracked up to be.
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Offline jassi

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #679 on: March 11, 2018, 04:47:38 PM »
Then the expertise that SY are supposed to bring may not be all its cracked up to be.

Look, you can't find an abductor if there isn't one to find, no matter how much expertise is brought to bear.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #680 on: March 11, 2018, 05:04:00 PM »
There might be a reason as to why the police force deemed most suitable to take up the case wasn't one with the least experience...

The police would garner evidence and present it to the CPS who would decide how to proceed.
Did you see the documentary on Chester CPS last year? it was very informative.
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #681 on: March 11, 2018, 05:16:21 PM »
Yeah, but there are things we know we know
And there are things you think we know but are mistaken.
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #682 on: March 11, 2018, 05:43:04 PM »
In my opinion you've got that entirely wrong.

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Mr Rowley said there was no ‘definitive evidence’ as to whether Madeleine is alive or dead.

He added: ‘That’s why we describe it as a missing person inquiry. We understand why, after this many years, people will be pessimistic, but it’s important we keep an open mind.’ The officer added that however Madeleine left the apartment, she was abducted.

http://metro.co.uk/2017/04/25/madeleine-mccann-police-following-significant-leads-as-10th-anniversary-approaches-6595974/?ito=cbshare

I think that would be included in the ‘what every officer has said’

Please stop picking holes Brietta when there are none to pick.
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Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #683 on: March 11, 2018, 05:50:24 PM »
Mark Rowley back in April last year.
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We don't have evidence telling us if Madeleine is alive or dead.
That seems fairly conclusive proof that the Met don't consider the dog alerts to be evidence of anything at all.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #684 on: March 11, 2018, 05:53:30 PM »
I think that would be included in the ‘what every officer has said’

Please stop picking holes Brietta when there are none to pick.
You said "No idea. All we do know for certain is what the various police officers have said over the years and Redwood said abduction may not be the lead OG is following."

Not ‘what every officer has said’.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #685 on: March 11, 2018, 05:55:10 PM »
Why does that matter?
1) Has a crime been committed in this case within the jurisdiction of the MPS?
2) With respect to weighting that would only come into consideration should a case be heard in court in which case the judge and jury would be the arbiters of weighting with the judge directing the jury where appropriate.
It matters only in the context of a discussion between myself and another forum member, this is a discussion forum and I was enjoying an exchange of views, not preparing for court.
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Offline barrier

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #686 on: March 11, 2018, 06:01:50 PM »

That seems fairly conclusive proof that the Met don't consider the dog alerts to be evidence of anything at all.

If she didn't leave alive which they can't or won't confirm,it raises questions.
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Offline misty

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #687 on: March 11, 2018, 06:05:26 PM »
Would the Portuguese judges have accepted the evidence of Grime as an expert witness in any court case during 2007/8?

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #688 on: March 11, 2018, 06:07:26 PM »
It matters only in the context of a discussion between myself and another forum member, this is a discussion forum and I was enjoying an exchange of views, not preparing for court.

So just your idle musings that have no real relevance to the case ?
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #689 on: March 11, 2018, 06:14:29 PM »
Would the Portuguese judges have accepted the evidence of Grime as an expert witness in any court case during 2007/8?
Who knows but I am sure someone with a professed phenomenal knowledge of Portuguese law will be along presently to advise us.
If the judges don't then end of dawg saga[ if only!]
If the judges do then there will be court rules to follow the result of which will be perm any one from about half a dozen as we lie at present.
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey