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Offline barrier

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #1215 on: March 23, 2018, 10:06:40 AM »
Did the book surge to the top of the bestsellers list when the court found in favour of Amaral?  Did it get published here as was suggested in some quarters?  By now IMO it's not a question of how far and wide it is read, what is important for the McCanns IMO is that it is legally acknowledged to be defamatory and based on nothing more than half-truths and fictions.   Then people can read it forearmed with that knowledge.   And also, that the author of this defamatory tale never profits from it, would be a strong motivating factor IMO.

Bolded bit,by who please, certainly not in Portugal.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #1216 on: March 23, 2018, 10:06:48 AM »
IMO I think the McCanns are fully aware that their case will not get much further than their application  but what else could they do?

On what do you base your opinion.... Have you looked at any libel cases dealt with by the ECHR

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #1217 on: March 23, 2018, 10:08:15 AM »
Bolded bit,by who please, certainly not in Portugal.

It us deemed libel per se by definition...

Offline faithlilly

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #1218 on: March 23, 2018, 10:08:44 AM »
On what do you base your opinion.... Have you looked at any libel cases dealt with by the ECHR

Have you and what was the outcome ?
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #1219 on: March 23, 2018, 10:11:00 AM »
I doubt they would care if their children read the book...... The twins would recognise it for the rubbish it is... Imo
There will be many people associated with the McCanns, friends, family, work colleagues etc, who will be only too well aware of the book, the allegations within it, and who may even have read it, who still are completely supportive of the couple.   If their children haven't already read it, if and when they do it's unlikely to turn them against their parents, but it may well make them angry and upset about the nonsense perpetrated by its author.  IMO.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #1220 on: March 23, 2018, 10:12:23 AM »
Bolded bit,by who please, certainly not in Portugal.
I don't understand your question, sorry.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #1221 on: March 23, 2018, 10:13:08 AM »
There will be many people associated with the McCanns, friends, family, work colleagues etc, who will be only too well aware of the book, the allegations within it, and who may even have read it, who still are completely supportive of the couple.   If their children haven't already read it, if and when they do it's unlikely to turn them against their parents, but it may well make them angry and upset about the nonsense perpetrated by its author.  IMO.

You seem to be arguing it has had no impact?
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Offline barrier

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #1222 on: March 23, 2018, 10:15:24 AM »
It us deemed libel per se by definition...

English definition? not Portuguese.
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Offline jassi

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #1223 on: March 23, 2018, 10:16:01 AM »
Did the book surge to the top of the bestsellers list when the court found in favour of Amaral?  Did it get published here as was suggested in some quarters?  By now IMO it's not a question of how far and wide it is read, what is important for the McCanns IMO is that it is legally acknowledged to be defamatory and based on nothing more than half-truths and fictions.   Then people can read it forearmed with that knowledge.   And also, that the author of this defamatory tale never profits from it, would be a strong motivating factor IMO.

Very much a niche market, I think, particularly as not published in English.
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Offline jassi

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #1224 on: March 23, 2018, 10:18:13 AM »
There will be many people associated with the McCanns, friends, family, work colleagues etc, who will be only too well aware of the book, the allegations within it, and who may even have read it, who still are completely supportive of the couple.   If their children haven't already read it, if and when they do it's unlikely to turn them against their parents, but it may well make them angry and upset about the nonsense perpetrated by its author.  IMO.

As you say, all in your opinion.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #1225 on: March 23, 2018, 10:19:37 AM »
English definition? not Portuguese.

It won't matter how it is considered in Portugal it's the opinion of ECHR law, that matters... And from previous cases I've seen.... Have you looked, at any... It is clearly libellous

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #1226 on: March 23, 2018, 10:20:54 AM »
You seem to be arguing it has had no impact?
I don't believe it has changed the opinion of those nearest and dearest to the McCanns, there is no evidence that it has, however it has undoubtedly caused them distress, and hurt IMO. 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #1227 on: March 23, 2018, 10:22:02 AM »
As you say, all in your opinion.
Yes, that's why I used copious IMOs throughout my post - any reason why this was was especially noteworthy and needed repeating by yourself?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #1228 on: March 23, 2018, 10:22:51 AM »
Very much a niche market, I think, particularly as not published in English.
Where would you say  (geographically speaking) there is the most interest in this case? 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline jassi

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #1229 on: March 23, 2018, 10:23:17 AM »
Yes, that's why I used copious IMOs throughout my post - any reason why this was was especially noteworthy and needed repeating by yourself?

I thought you might like the publicity  8(>((
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future