Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence

[Mr Gray]

Where is the evidence of corpses in the apartment and frozen cadaver in the car, out of interest?

Figments of someones imagination

[Mr Gray]

I never said he was certain - unless you have a cite?

You posted that in his opinion the alerts were triggered by cadaver... That is not true

[G-Unit]

You posted that in his opinion the alerts were triggered by cadaver... That is not true

I would be very surprised if Grime thought Eddie might be alerting to something else. He seemed to have every faith in his training methods and his dog's reliability.

Pavlov's theory is used in the case of the E.V.R.D. system of alert. He has been 'conditioned' to give a verbal alert when coming into contact with 'dead body scent'.

'False' positives are always a possibility; to date Eddie has not so indicated operationally or in training.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES.htm

[Mr Gray]

I would be very surprised if Grime thought Eddie might be alerting to something else. He seemed to have every faith in his training methods and his dog's reliability.

Pavlov's theory is used in the case of the E.V.R.D. system of alert. He has been 'conditioned' to give a verbal alert when coming into contact with 'dead body scent'.

'False' positives are always a possibility; to date Eddie has not so indicated operationally or in training.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES.htm

I think you need to read the files again...... The quote re false alerts relates to food as I understand.... Grime has no way of knowing if unconfirmed  alerts are false, or not


I would be very surprised if the alert to CC... Which grime confirms... Was, a, positive alert to cadaver... But grime felt it was suggestive and worth testing

[G-Unit]

I think you need to read the files again...... The quote re false alerts relates to food as I understand.... Grime has no way of knowing if unconfirmed  alerts are false, or not


I would be very surprised if the alert to CC... Which grime confirms... Was, a, positive alert to cadaver... But grime felt it was suggestive and worth testing

Eddie was conditioned to alert to cadaver scent. He had done so many times. There's no reason for Grime to think he was alerting to anything else.

[Mr Gray]

Eddie was conditioned to alert to cadaver scent. He had done so many times. There's no reason for Grime to think he was alerting to anything else.

Is that your opinion?...

[G-Unit]

Is that your opinion?...

It's my opinion that Grime's opinion was that Eddie alerted to cadaver scent. If he thought something else was possible he would have said so.

[Mr Gray]

It's my opinion that Grime's opinion was that Eddie alerted to cadaver scent. If he thought something else was possible he would have said so.

That might be your opinion... But you stated it as fact....
He certainly didn't say that.... I prefer to stick to the evidence

[Mr Gray]

It's my opinion that Grime's opinion was that Eddie alerted to cadaver scent. If he thought something else was possible he would have said so.

Grime said it was his opinion that the alert was possibly to ...or suggestive...of cadaver odour....Thats the evidence from grime...you believe something different...so you dont understand the evidence

[Robittybob1]

Grime said it was his opinion that the alert was possibly to ...or suggestive...of cadaver odour....Thats the evidence from grime...you believe something different...so you dont understand the evidence

Was that ever translated into Portuguese?  The version in the file did that need to be re-translated?

[Mr Gray]

Was that ever translated into Portuguese?  The version in the file did that need to be re-translated?

why do you say that

[Robittybob1]

why do you say that

I asked the question in the search to see if the wording could be introduced by a translation error.  Like the rogatory interviews were never translated into Portuguese so did they miss the clues that were in them?  Did they totally miss what Crime said in his statement since it was possibly never translated into Portuguese?

[Mr Gray]

I asked the question in the search to see if the wording could be introduced by a translation error.  Like the rogatory interviews were never translated into Portuguese so did they miss the clues that were in them?  Did they totally miss what Crime said in his statement since it was possibly never translated into Portuguese?

grime made the statement in his witness statement and in his rogatory.....Harrison made a similar statement in his witness and rog statements...are you seriously suggesting what is probably 4 different translators made the exact same mistake

[Robittybob1]

grime made the statement in his witness statement and in his rogatory.....Harrison made a similar statement in his witness and rog statements...are you seriously suggesting what is probably 4 different translators made the exact same mistake

I'm asking for a clarification.  Are you suggesting, by referring to "probably 4 different translators", that it was translated and re-translated?

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