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Offline Robittybob1

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Re: The Calpol claim revisited.
« Reply #120 on: July 07, 2018, 07:18:51 PM »
Iíve been to a MW resort with children and they ran about all day doing various activities. I never had trouble waking them if I needed to though.

Of course there will be variation.
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Re: The Calpol claim revisited.
« Reply #121 on: July 07, 2018, 07:23:15 PM »
Of course there will be variation.
I think it's particularly  true of young children... Under 5
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Re: The Calpol claim revisited.
« Reply #122 on: July 07, 2018, 08:25:54 PM »
Enough....
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: The Calpol claim revisited.
« Reply #123 on: July 12, 2018, 12:14:22 PM »
Iíve been to a MW resort with children and they ran about all day doing various activities. I never had trouble waking them if I needed to though.


So you left your children alone with strangers? oh how could you Faith?!!!... 8(0(*

Just a point about that. The McCanns in one of their many excuses about the 'listening service' they provided  as evening childcare, was they didn't like to leave the children alone with strangers.. they had no bother doing that during the day.

This was in response to a question why didn't they hire a nanny who were on offer at MW- to babysit...
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Re: The Calpol claim revisited.
« Reply #124 on: July 12, 2018, 09:58:41 PM »

So you left your children alone with strangers? oh how could you Faith?!!!... 8(0(*

Just a point about that. The McCanns in one of their many excuses about the 'listening service' they provided  as evening childcare, was they didn't like to leave the children alone with strangers.. they had no bother doing that during the day.

This was in response to a question why didn't they hire a nanny who were on offer at MW- to babysit...

They could even possibly have had Cat Baker to babysit, she who knew Madeleine well..

Modified thanks to Sadie.
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Offline sadie

Re: The Calpol claim revisited.
« Reply #125 on: July 12, 2018, 11:29:51 PM »

So you left your children alone with strangers? oh how could you Faith?!!!... 8(0(*

Just a point about that. The McCanns in one of their many excuses about the 'listening service' they provided  as evening childcare, was they didn't like to leave the children alone with strangers.. they had no bother doing that during the day.

This was in response to a question why didn't they hire a nanny who were on offer at MW- to babysit...
Even you Mistaken, must realise that there is a big difference between leaving your child in a daylight club, with open access.   Where staff and  parents 'come and go' randomly, so without even trying, monitoring what goes on there     
~ versus ~     
Having a virtual stranger looking after them, in the solitude of your flat with curtains drawn, door locked and no random visitors unconsciously  monitoring things.


I wouldn't have allowed the second, but yes, I would have allowed the former.
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Offline Faithlilly

Re: The Calpol claim revisited.
« Reply #126 on: July 12, 2018, 11:36:21 PM »
Even you Mistaken, must realise that there is a big difference between leaving your child in a daylight club where parents 'come and go' randomly, so without even trying, monitoring what goes on there     
~ versus ~     
Having a virtual stranger looking after them, in the solitude of your flat with curtains drawn, door locked and no random visitors unconsciously  monitoring things.

Either proposition would be better than leaving your children on their own with the doors unlocked.
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Offline sadie

Re: The Calpol claim revisited.
« Reply #127 on: July 12, 2018, 11:53:33 PM »
They could even possibly have had Cat Baker to babysite, she who knew the children well..
Correction.

Only Madeleine was in her group.  The twins were in another club geographically seperated.

After a few days with Madeleine in her group, she would have known her fairly well


However there was NO reason why Cat Baker would know the twins at all.  They spent their 'club' time, crow flies, about 220 metres away ... and considerably further by foot



Can I have a cite, please
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Offline sadie

Re: The Calpol claim revisited.
« Reply #128 on: July 13, 2018, 12:03:58 AM »
Either proposition would be better than leaving your children on their own with the doors unlocked.
In the understanding of The Mccanns, only ONE door was unlocked and that was the patio door, which the Tapas Group could see from about 50 metres away.   Even Amaral said that no-one would dare go in via that entrance becos it was so overlooked by the parents and friends.
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Re: The Calpol claim revisited.
« Reply #129 on: July 13, 2018, 02:34:19 AM »
Correction.

Only Madeleine was in her group.  The twins were in another club geographically seperated.

After a few days with Madeleine in her group, she would have known her fairly well


However there was NO reason why Cat Baker would know the twins at all.  They spent their 'club' time, crow flies, about 220 metres away ... and considerably further by foot



Can I have a cite, please
I think you have made a valid point.
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Re: The Calpol claim revisited.
« Reply #130 on: July 13, 2018, 07:11:08 AM »
I think you have made a valid point.

And she did Robittybob1 and I had already amended my post accordingly and thanked Sadie for putting me right.
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Re: The Calpol claim revisited.
« Reply #131 on: July 13, 2018, 07:18:00 AM »
In the understanding of The Mccanns, only ONE door was unlocked and that was the patio door, which the Tapas Group could see from about 50 metres away.   Even Amaral said that no-one would dare go in via that entrance becos it was so overlooked by the parents and friends.

Why do you find it necessary to pluralise the patio door into "doors", Faith ?

Putting the boot in?   

Let's have transparent honesty please ... and would you correct your post T.Y.   We dont want more myths flying around the place, do we ?

I agree Sadie we don't want myths flying around so with this in mind pleases could you provide a cite where the group would be able to see the door from the restaurant.   I have had a brief look and see how they could see the actual door only part of the outside of 5a. Otherwise why not amend your post as I did.

By the way thanks again for putting me right regarding Cat.
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Offline barrier

Re: The Calpol claim revisited.
« Reply #132 on: July 13, 2018, 08:48:49 AM »
In the understanding of The Mccanns, only ONE door was unlocked and that was the patio door, which the Tapas Group could see from about 50 metres away.   Even Amaral said that no-one would dare go in via that entrance becos it was so overlooked by the parents and friends.

How right he is imo no one used that entrance nor another to allegedly abduct the girl.
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: The Calpol claim revisited.
« Reply #133 on: July 13, 2018, 08:51:34 AM »
In the understanding of The Mccanns, only ONE door was unlocked and that was the patio door, which the Tapas Group could see from about 50 metres away.   Even Amaral said that no-one would dare go in via that entrance becos it was so overlooked by the parents and friends.

Interesting that you use one of GAís reasons to doubt abduction as an indicator of how safe it was?
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Re: The Calpol claim revisited.
« Reply #134 on: July 13, 2018, 09:36:15 AM »
And she did Robittybob1 and I had already amended my post accordingly and thanked Sadie for putting me right.
Well that is a bonus.
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