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Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #855 on: August 09, 2019, 09:15:57 PM »
Justice for Jimmy Saville

Carl Beech and Jimmy Savile - Part 2 by Rabbitaway

https://rabbitaway.blogspot.com/2019/08/carl-beech-and-jimmy-savile-part-2.html

(Part 1 https://rabbitaway.blogspot.com/2019/07/carl-beech-jimmy-savile-part-1.html)

A Private Eyefull ! by Rabbitaway
Rosie Waterhouse is one of only TWO mainstream journalist's to have shown some genuine interest in Operation Yewtree, and I raise my hat to both of them. But, reading Rosie's and especially those references to Keir Starmer, took me back to a post I published in December 2013 wherein I postulated a possible motivation behind the authorities rush to judgement on Sir Jimmy. Could it be that Jimmy's death - right slap bang -  in the midst of Starmer's - Rochdale mea culpa, was his (and others) chance to make good for their failure to help the Susie's ?
https://rabbitaway.blogspot.com/2019/08/a-private-eyefull_9.html
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Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #856 on: September 01, 2019, 08:35:57 AM »
https://mobile.twitter.com/michaeljnaughto

Account suspended ?

Empowering Wrongful Convictions (EWC)
@wrongfulcons
Must-read book for all fighting a miscarriage of justice by an inspirational, fearless and indefatigable woman who will never cease in her quest for truth and justice for her brother, their family and his alleged victim. #wrongfulconvictions #miscarriagesofjustice #injustice https://twitter.com/Michelle_Diskin/status/1114144289871880192

https://mobile.twitter.com/wrongfulcons/status/1166616420060422144


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@wrongfulcons
New initiative being set up by Dr Michael Naughton: http://michaeljnaughton.com
Joined June 2019

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Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #857 on: September 05, 2019, 03:06:35 PM »
Empowering Wrongful Convictions (EWC)
@wrongfulcons
Must-read book for all fighting a miscarriage of justice by an inspirational, fearless and indefatigable woman who will never cease in her quest for truth and justice for her brother, their family and his alleged victim. #wrongfulconvictions #miscarriagesofjustice #injustice https://twitter.com/Michelle_Diskin/status/1114144289871880192

https://mobile.twitter.com/wrongfulcons/status/1166616420060422144


Empowering Wrongful Convictions (EWC)
@wrongfulcons
New initiative being set up by Dr Michael Naughton: http://michaeljnaughton.com
Joined June 2019


Empowering Wrongful Convictions (EWC)
@wrongfulcons
·
3h
If
@ccrcupdate

 cannot see the wrongfulness of
@EddieGilfoyle

 conviction and refer it then what hope is there for any applicants? There is an urgent need to reform the CCRC or for it to be replaced with a body that can truly assist the innocent. #wrongfulconvictions
@APPGMJ

https://mobile.twitter.com/wrongfulcons/status/1169559820204224513


Empowering Wrongful Convictions (EWC)
@wrongfulcons
Many of us have been raising awareness of the problem of the
@ccrcupdate
 real possibility test and how it acts against justice for innocent victims of #wrongfulconvictions for over 15 years. CCRC needs to be reformed or replaced with a body that can truly assist the innocent.

https://mobile.twitter.com/wrongfulcons/status/1169558155162017792
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Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #858 on: September 18, 2019, 04:11:11 PM »
Empowering Wrongful Convictions (EWC)
@wrongfulcons
·
3h

If @ccrcupdate

 cannot see the wrongfulness of
@EddieGilfoyle

 conviction and refer it then what hope is there for any applicants?
There is an urgent need to reform the CCRC or for it to be replaced with a body that can truly assist the innocent. #wrongfulconvictions
@APPGMJ

https://mobile.twitter.com/wrongfulcons/status/1169559820204224513


During this interview he slips up when he refers to Paula’s diaries saying; “she tried to commit suicide herself.”

Approx 2.12

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-16447836

She tried to commit suicide herself

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=7310.msg550858#msg550858
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Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #859 on: September 18, 2019, 04:44:17 PM »
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Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #860 on: September 18, 2019, 05:03:47 PM »
Empowering Wrongful Convictions (EWC)
@wrongfulcons
Must-read book for all fighting a miscarriage of justice by an inspirational, fearless and indefatigable woman who will never cease in her quest for truth and justice for her brother, their family and his alleged victim. #wrongfulconvictions #miscarriagesofjustice #injustice https://twitter.com/Michelle_Diskin/status/1114144289871880192

https://mobile.twitter.com/wrongfulcons/status/1166616420060422144


Empowering Wrongful Convictions (EWC)
@wrongfulcons
New initiative being set up by Dr Michael Naughton: http://michaeljnaughton.com
Joined June 2019


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@Emp_Innocence
·
Sep 4
No - I’m with you and all other innocent victims of wrongful convictions and their families and supporters so that we can together get a system that is committed to the prevention and overturn of wrongful convictions. #whatweallowwillcontinue #wrongfulconvictions

Empowering Innocence
@Emp_Innocence
Thank you. The cause of #wrongfulconvictions needs more people committed to change as you are. Please watch this space for information about a meeting planned for November to formally launch EWC. It would be great if you & ALL those against wrong convictions could get involved.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Emp_Innocence
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #861 on: September 18, 2019, 05:08:05 PM »
Empowering Innocence
@Emp_Innocence
·
Sep 4
No - I’m with you and all other innocent victims of wrongful convictions and their families and supporters so that we can together get a system that is committed to the prevention and overturn of wrongful convictions. #whatweallowwillcontinue #wrongfulconvictions

Empowering Innocence
@Emp_Innocence
Thank you. The cause of #wrongfulconvictions needs more people committed to change as you are. Please watch this space for information about a meeting planned for November to formally launch EWC. It would be great if you & ALL those against wrong convictions could get involved.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Emp_Innocence


CCRC
@ccrcupdate
Some recent tweets attacking the ethics and integrity of
@ccrcupdate
 and its staff are offensive and wrong. Anyone who has spent time at the CCRC will testify to the fact that we are hardworking and committed to resolving miscarriages of justice …1/4

The recently published independent research by
@carolynhoyle1
 is the result of years of work
@ccrcupdate
 offices interacting with us. It describes an organisation that, while far from perfect, has integrity and is fundamentally decent, honest and dedicated to its work...2/4

Some of those impugning our motives and morals probably won’t want to read impartial and evidence-based opinion about the culture and standards at
@ccrcupdate
 because the truth runs counter to the things they want to believe...3/4

@ccrcupdate
 never claimed to be perfect; we know we're not and we are always trying to improve. It's legitimate to scrutinise our work and question our performance, but claims that we're uncaring, in it for the money and making decisions in bad faith are wrong and unhelpful. 4/4
https://mobile.twitter.com/ccrcupdate/with_replies


Empowering Innocence
@Emp_Innocence
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2h
Great that
@ccrcupdate
 is finally engaging with its critics but it "doth protest too much". If anyone is in any doubts about the failings of the CCRC in assisting innocent victims of #wrongfulconvictions see: http://michaeljnaughton.com/?page_id=876 & other books and articles on my website.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Emp_Innocence/status/1174309685261938690
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #862 on: September 19, 2019, 09:27:21 AM »
Michelle Diskin Bates writes about herself and Paddy Hill:
As he watched, his heart was touched by the sight of a lone women walking in and out of court every day, assailed by news crews. He had heard enough of the evidence to believe a miscarriage of justice was about to take place but he could only help after conviction, not before, and then only if the defendant asked for help. However something struck Paddy about this case and that sad lonely figure on the screen and he came down to London.

Here she’s referring to herself as “that sad lonely figure”


Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀
@Michelle_Diskin
A really encouraging MJSS client conference in Friends House, London, The Miscarriages of Justice Support Service - RCJ Advice. I have been asked to write out my  recommendations, as discussed today, and as suggested in my book,previously.
10:31 PM · Sep 17, 2019·Twitter for iPad

https://mobile.twitter.com/Michelle_Diskin/status/1174073472051482628

Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀
@Michelle_Diskin
I’m hopeful that the MJSS may attend the
@UaInjustice
 conference in October. Their presence may be of assistance to struggling families of moj victims.
10:36 PM · Sep 17, 2019·Twitter for iPad
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #863 on: September 19, 2019, 09:30:45 AM »
Empowering Innocence
@Emp_Innocence
·
Sep 4
No - I’m with you and all other innocent victims of wrongful convictions and their families and supporters so that we can together get a system that is committed to the prevention and overturn of wrongful convictions. #whatweallowwillcontinue #wrongfulconvictions

Empowering Innocence
@Emp_Innocence
Thank you. The cause of #wrongfulconvictions needs more people committed to change as you are. Please watch this space for information about a meeting planned for November to formally launch EWC. It would be great if you & ALL those against wrong convictions could get involved.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Emp_Innocence

Empowering Innocence
@Empow_Innocence
·
Sep 13
Hope is crucial for innocent victims of #wrongfulconvictions which includes families and friends. It’s what keeps you going. But, the
@ccrcupdate
 increasingly offer little or almost no hope with over 99% of applicants being refused a referral back to the appeal courts.

Mick Geen
@J4BenGeen
·
Sep 13
Increasing referred to in Miscarriage of Justice circles as the Bastion of  no Hope-Giving evidence to the HoC Commission the CCRC said they were happy with their own  performance and felt comfort in the knowledge that the CoA also said that the CCRC were performing very well. 🙆‍♂️

Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀
@Michelle_Diskin
Replying to
@J4BenGeen
 
@wrongfulcons
 and
@ccrcupdate
😱 They have become part of ‘The System’. But they were set up to be apart from it. A tiger with no teeth or claws is a pussycat.
8:34 AM · Sep 17, 2019·Twitter for iPhone

https://mobile.twitter.com/Michelle_Diskin/status/1173862821244952576
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #864 on: September 19, 2019, 09:43:40 AM »
Here she’s referring to herself as “that sad lonely figure”


Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀
@Michelle_Diskin
A really encouraging MJSS client conference in Friends House, London, The Miscarriages of Justice Support Service - RCJ Advice. I have been asked to write out my  recommendations, as discussed today, and as suggested in my book,previously.
10:31 PM · Sep 17, 2019·Twitter for iPad

https://mobile.twitter.com/Michelle_Diskin/status/1174073472051482628

Quote
Michelle Diskin Bates writes about herself and Paddy Hill:
“As he watched, his heart was touched by the sight of a lone women walking in and out of court every day, assailed by news crews. He had heard enough of the evidence to believe a miscarriage of justice was about to take place but he could only help after conviction, not before, and then only if the defendant asked for help. However something struck Paddy about this case and that sad lonely figure on the screen and he came down to London.

“A lone women?”

But Michelle Diskin (As she was known then) wasn’t on her own. Her Uncle Mike Burke, her mother and others were also in attendance.

Excerpts from Mike Bourke’s book:
“Mansfield was one of the top six defence lawyers in England, if not the best. The Daily Mail referred to him as a Champagne Socialist and he appeared to be hated by the Mail, some judges and lawyers. Jealously is said to be the reason for that. He represented the Price sisters who bombed the Old Bailey in 1973 destroying Mansfield’s car in the process. 27 QCs became unavailable but he took on the case. The Guildford 4 and Birmingham Six appeals were amongst many other of his high profile cases. Fortunately Barry got Mansfield but he was adamant that he would keep solicitor Marilyn Etienne. I was horrified as I strongly felt that he needed a highly experienced lawyer such as Peirce, and I didn’t know of Marilyn’s track record. Michelle visited Barry along with Margaret to try and persuade him to change but it was not to be.

I did notice over time a tendency in him to be a bit of a hypochondriac. Unfortunately he had a side to him which I had not been very aware of. I always thought of him as a more or less harmless character who was a bit of a fantasist but that was not quite the case. In early ’83 his mother told me that he was in prison on remand. At his trial in the Old Bailey he pleaded guilty to a serious offence in February 1982 and got thirty months in prison. As Barry is once again trying to get on with his life I have decided not to go into the details which have received much press coverage but I do recall reading in a newspaper at the time that he initially denied it but that the detective tripped him up by asking him if he spoke any German. Barry replied ‘Ich Verstain’, (I understand). It appears that he used the same expression to the unfortunate victim who was a student studying German. So it would seem that a clever detective had no trouble in tripping him up and getting to the truth. He served his time in Wormwood Scrubbs, Brixton and Grendon Underwood prisons. I visited him a couple of times along with his mother and Eddie. He was free again by Christmas 1984 and he seemed to settle down after that. He never spoke to me about the crime and I never asked but I read her own account in 2001 following his conviction for Jill Dando’s murder, and again in 2008 when she wrote that she doubted if Barry was a killer. Barry had a 125cc motorbike in the summer of 1986 which I thought was surprising given his epilepsy. It was a nice ‘bike and I had a spin on it. But one day a woman motorist pulled out in front of him and the ‘bike was wrecked. A taxi driver witnessed the accident and he wrote in a witness statement that ‘she didn’t give the poor fellow a chance’. I don’t think that he was seriously injured in the accident, just cuts and bruises and possibly a leg injury. After that he wisely decided to give up motorbikes and bought a mountain-bike.
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Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #865 on: September 19, 2019, 09:52:54 AM »
“A lone women?”

But Michelle Diskin (As she was known then) wasn’t on her own. Her Uncle Mike Burke, her mother and others were also in attendance.

Excerpts from Mike Bourke’s book:
“Mansfield was one of the top six defence lawyers in England, if not the best. The Daily Mail referred to him as a Champagne Socialist and he appeared to be hated by the Mail, some judges and lawyers. Jealously is said to be the reason for that. He represented the Price sisters who bombed the Old Bailey in 1973 destroying Mansfield’s car in the process. 27 QCs became unavailable but he took on the case. The Guildford 4 and Birmingham Six appeals were amongst many other of his high profile cases. Fortunately Barry got Mansfield but he was adamant that he would keep solicitor Marilyn Etienne. I was horrified as I strongly felt that he needed a highly experienced lawyer such as Peirce, and I didn’t know of Marilyn’s track record. Michelle visited Barry along with Margaret to try and persuade him to change but it was not to be.

I did notice over time a tendency in him to be a bit of a hypochondriac. Unfortunately he had a side to him which I had not been very aware of. I always thought of him as a more or less harmless character who was a bit of a fantasist but that was not quite the case. In early ’83 his mother told me that he was in prison on remand. At his trial in the Old Bailey he pleaded guilty to a serious offence in February 1982 and got thirty months in prison. As Barry is once again trying to get on with his life I have decided not to go into the details which have received much press coverage but I do recall reading in a newspaper at the time that he initially denied it but that the detective tripped him up by asking him if he spoke any German. Barry replied ‘Ich Verstain’, (I understand). It appears that he used the same expression to the unfortunate victim who was a student studying German. So it would seem that a clever detective had no trouble in tripping him up and getting to the truth. He served his time in Wormwood Scrubbs, Brixton and Grendon Underwood prisons. I visited him a couple of times along with his mother and Eddie. He was free again by Christmas 1984 and he seemed to settle down after that. He never spoke to me about the crime and I never asked but I read her own account in 2001 following his conviction for Jill Dando’s murder, and again in 2008 when she wrote that she doubted if Barry was a killer. Barry had a 125cc motorbike in the summer of 1986 which I thought was surprising given his epilepsy. It was a nice ‘bike and I had a spin on it. But one day a woman motorist pulled out in front of him and the ‘bike was wrecked. A taxi driver witnessed the accident and he wrote in a witness statement that ‘she didn’t give the poor fellow a chance’. I don’t think that he was seriously injured in the accident, just cuts and bruises and possibly a leg injury. After that he wisely decided to give up motorbikes and bought a mountain-bike.


“Barry, too, suffers from epilepsy, and the condition - which was not properly diagnosed until shortly before the trial - may have contributed to the mental problems he seems to have developed.[/i]
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2001/jul/03/jilldando.media5

“It is now accepted that George does suffer from a mild form of epilepsy, though the experts are divided about its effects. Some believe George deliberately exaggerates the condition, others claim it has caused "severe brain dysfunction"
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,8126.msg384497.html#msg384497

Barry George and epilepsy:

Wasn’t properly diagnosed until just before his trial yet his Uncle Mike seems to suggest otherwise?

So who diagnosed Barry George’s epilepsy and when exactly? What do his medical records state?

In the Eddie Gilfoyle case, “The Commission said that Professor Kopelman was content to accept that the claimant had been deprived of his medication during the trial, as the claimant alleged, and appeared to have based his conclusions largely on the claimant’s self-reporting.

Quote
Kopelman was also involved in the Barry George
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=7310.msg550859#msg550859


“Staff at Heathermount, set in 14 idyllic acres in Sunningdale, Berkshire, remembered him as a "mummy's boy" who followed one of the matrons "like a lost lamb". The less academic pupils, like George, were encouraged to concentrate on woodwork, metalwork, weaving and gardening, and to perform in ambitious theatre productions, such as La Boheme and The Mikado.
It was here that George's obsession with celebrity began to emerge, insisting to friends and teachers that they should call him Paul Gadd, Gary Glitter's real name.
"He didn't just have posters on his walls like the other kids," said one former member of staff. "He knew every movement, song and dance."
At Heathermount, George may also have had his first contact with guns. In the spring of 1972 the school built a small-bore rifle range, much against the wishes of some parents and governors. Although it closed a year later, George would have known about and probably used the facility.
George often had "funny turns", but staff were not sure whether these episodes were real or feigned. Doctors examined him on two occasions between 1974 and 1976 and concluded there was nothing wrong.
It is now accepted that George does suffer from a mild form of epilepsy, though the experts are divided about its effects. Some believe George deliberately exaggerates the condition, others claim it has caused "severe brain dysfunction"
. https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2001/jul/03/jilldando.media5

“a mild form of epilepsy though the experts are divided about its effects
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Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #866 on: September 19, 2019, 10:10:27 AM »
“A lone women?”

But Michelle Diskin (As she was known then) wasn’t on her own. Her Uncle Mike Burke, her mother and others were also in attendance.

Excerpts from Mike Bourke’s book:
“Mansfield was one of the top six defence lawyers in England, if not the best. The Daily Mail referred to him as a Champagne Socialist and he appeared to be hated by the Mail, some judges and lawyers. Jealously is said to be the reason for that. He represented the Price sisters who bombed the Old Bailey in 1973 destroying Mansfield’s car in the process. 27 QCs became unavailable but he took on the case. The Guildford 4 and Birmingham Six appeals were amongst many other of his high profile cases. Fortunately Barry got Mansfield but he was adamant that he would keep solicitor Marilyn Etienne. I was horrified as I strongly felt that he needed a highly experienced lawyer such as Peirce, and I didn’t know of Marilyn’s track record. Michelle visited Barry along with Margaret to try and persuade him to change but it was not to be.

I did notice over time a tendency in him to be a bit of a hypochondriac. Unfortunately he had a side to him which I had not been very aware of. I always thought of him as a more or less harmless character who was a bit of a fantasist but that was not quite the case. In early ’83 his mother told me that he was in prison on remand. At his trial in the Old Bailey he pleaded guilty to a serious offence in February 1982 and got thirty months in prison. As Barry is once again trying to get on with his life I have decided not to go into the details which have received much press coverage but I do recall reading in a newspaper at the time that he initially denied it but that the detective tripped him up by asking him if he spoke any German. Barry replied ‘Ich Verstain’, (I understand). It appears that he used the same expression to the unfortunate victim who was a student studying German. So it would seem that a clever detective had no trouble in tripping him up and getting to the truth. He served his time in Wormwood Scrubbs, Brixton and Grendon Underwood prisons. I visited him a couple of times along with his mother and Eddie. He was free again by Christmas 1984 and he seemed to settle down after that. He never spoke to me about the crime and I never asked but I read her own account in 2001 following his conviction for Jill Dando’s murder, and again in 2008 when she wrote that she doubted if Barry was a killer. Barry had a 125cc motorbike in the summer of 1986 which I thought was surprising given his epilepsy. It was a nice ‘bike and I had a spin on it. But one day a woman motorist pulled out in front of him and the ‘bike was wrecked. A taxi driver witnessed the accident and he wrote in a witness statement that ‘she didn’t give the poor fellow a chance’. I don’t think that he was seriously injured in the accident, just cuts and bruises and possibly a leg injury. After that he wisely decided to give up motorbikes and bought a mountain-bike.


“I returned to London on November 22 for the preliminary hearing at the Old Bailey on the 24th. Margaret was home from hospital now. I entered court via the Newgate entrance, following a few American visitors to the public gallery. I overheard one say ‘Gee, all those cameras, there must be some celebrity here today’. There appeared to be some confusion as the hearing started. Barry was late arriving and when he did nothing much seemed to be happening. Then Mansfield approached the dock and spoke quietly with Barry. Mansfield then nodded to the judge and the proceedings began. It was a short hearing and a provisional date for the trial was set, February 26. Later Michelle told me that Mansfield had thought that Barry was going to sack him hence the confusion in court. That was something that we would all have to come to terms with in the years which followed.

I met Margaret Renn later in the fish and chip shop in East Acton. She said that Barry would need all the family support he could get. She asked me if I would give her an interview, and I said probably not as I was unpopular enough with some of my family. The following day I went with Barry’s mother to Belmarsh prison. It was her first visit since the early summer when she was taken ill. She discovered that he was being punished due to being taken ill after the court case and giving a prison officer a back answer. He got two weeks solitary as a result, and the visit was cut to less than an hour.


Would be interesting to see if Barry George’s custody records match with:

She discovered that he was being punished due to being taken ill after the court case and giving a prison officer a back answer. He got two weeks solitary as a result, and the visit was cut to less than an hour
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Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #867 on: September 19, 2019, 10:23:00 AM »
Quote
Michelle Diskin Bates writes about herself and Paddy Hill:
“As he watched, his heart was touched by the sight of a lone women walking in and out of court every day, assailed by news crews. He had heard enough of the evidence to believe a miscarriage of justice was about to take place but he could only help after conviction, not before, and then only if the defendant asked for help. However something struck Paddy about this case and that sad lonely figure on the screen and he came down to London.

Here she’s referring to herself as “that sad lonely figure”

Excerpt from Mike Bourke’s book:
The trial initially commenced on Monday February 26th 2001. Michelle and I entered The Old Bailey unnoticed. We were allowed into the main body of Court Number One rather than the public gallery which is the usual. We were allocated a bench which nobody else was allowed to occupy. I was amazed to see all the boxes of files relating to the case, about two hundred I estimated.

So did Michelle Diskin Bates and her uncle Michael Bourke enter the Old Bailey “unnoticed” or did Paddy Hill see “that sad lonely figure on the screen”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iJGmjFqFdE

A really good docu imo.

Anyone who watched the above documentary will know Michelle Diskin Bates was filmed getting in and out of the taxi with her mother and came across as anything but “a sad lonely figure” as described by herself in her book.
« Last Edit: September 19, 2019, 10:52:12 AM by Nicholas »
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #868 on: September 19, 2019, 10:28:19 AM »
Here she’s referring to herself as “that sad lonely figure”


Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀
@Michelle_Diskin
A really encouraging MJSS client conference in Friends House, London, The Miscarriages of Justice Support Service - RCJ Advice. I have been asked to write out my  recommendations, as discussed today, and as suggested in my book,previously.
10:31 PM · Sep 17, 2019·Twitter for iPad

https://mobile.twitter.com/Michelle_Diskin/status/1174073472051482628

Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀
@Michelle_Diskin
I’m hopeful that the MJSS may attend the
@UaInjustice
 conference in October. Their presence may be of assistance to struggling families of moj victims.
10:36 PM · Sep 17, 2019·Twitter for iPad


Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀
@Michelle_Diskin
The improvement of client services is close to my heart for obvious reasons. Aftercare services to the wrongly convicted are, at best, abysmal. We need to pull together to make the necessary improvements.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Michelle_Diskin/status/1174073648640122881

There may be a handful of people taken in by the above claims but I’m not.

Another interesting factor - it appears to be the same handful of people who like and retweet her on twitter. ie: The “bamberettes” and William Beck.

William Beck
@WullieBeck
Jul 17
Replying to
@Michelle_Diskin
Name and shame them.
Some people are never happy.

William Beck
@WullieBeck
Jul 17
Replying to
@Michelle_Diskin
I know exactly who you are talking about.
Bit of a fruit cake who attacked everyone till a certain person was left without supporters.
A currant short of a fruit bun if you ask me.
Best just to ignore.


“A certain person” who turned out to be a dangerous murderer - who conned many people for over a decade. But let’s not let the facts get in the way.

I suggest his comments “bit of a fruit cake” and “a current short of a fruit bun” are his projections given the truth came to light in 2013 and he’ still appears unable to have joined the dots.  *&^^&
« Last Edit: September 19, 2019, 10:43:55 AM by Nicholas »
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #869 on: September 19, 2019, 10:45:47 AM »

CCRC
@ccrcupdate
Some recent tweets attacking the ethics and integrity of
@ccrcupdate
 and its staff are offensive and wrong. Anyone who has spent time at the CCRC will testify to the fact that we are hardworking and committed to resolving miscarriages of justice …1/4

The recently published independent research by
@carolynhoyle1
 is the result of years of work
@ccrcupdate
 offices interacting with us. It describes an organisation that, while far from perfect, has integrity and is fundamentally decent, honest and dedicated to its work...2/4

Some of those impugning our motives and morals probably won’t want to read impartial and evidence-based opinion about the culture and standards at
@ccrcupdate
 because the truth runs counter to the things they want to believe...3/4

@ccrcupdate
 never claimed to be perfect; we know we're not and we are always trying to improve. It's legitimate to scrutinise our work and question our performance, but claims that we're uncaring, in it for the money and making decisions in bad faith are wrong and unhelpful. 4/4
https://mobile.twitter.com/ccrcupdate/with_replies


Empowering Innocence
@Emp_Innocence
·
2h
Great that
@ccrcupdate
 is finally engaging with its critics but it "doth protest too much". If anyone is in any doubts about the failings of the CCRC in assisting innocent victims of #wrongfulconvictions see: http://michaeljnaughton.com/?page_id=876 & other books and articles on my website.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Emp_Innocence/status/1174309685261938690

Appears InsideJustice will be “working together” with the CCRC in the future. Seems they feel differently about the CCRC than Michael Naughton etc?

CCRC
@ccrcupdate
@ccrcupdate
 Chairman Helen Pitcher was very pleased to be involved in the
@insidejusticeUK
 Advisory Panel meeting yesterday. We look forward to working together.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ccrcupdate/status/1174619028238864384
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