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Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #1050 on: February 16, 2020, 11:35:28 AM »
The above article includes a photo of Michelle Diskin Bates with Surjit Singh Clair

Judge Robert Orme said Cotter (29) and co-conspirators Surjit Singh Clair (31) and Craig Wynn (29) had played the "race card" in an attempt to make the bogus attack convincing. Jailing Wynn for two years and Clair for three years at Birmingham Crown Court, the judge added that the men had committed a grave offence.”
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/jail-for-fake-race-hate-attack-1.312219


Sell your story to the newspapers. Surjit Singh Claire gets you the best deal. Max Clifford miscarrage of justice.
http://www.effectivemedialtd.com/

March 2003
“Three men jailed over a "fake" race attack on the boyfriend of Ashia Hansen - who jumped to victory in the World Indoor Championships this weekend - have pledged to fight on to clear their names.
“Cotter, Surjit Singh Clair and Craig Wynn challenged their convictions at the High Court last year but failed.
They are now awaiting a hearing at the House of Lords, to challenge the convictions on a point of law.
“Clair also wants to challenge his conviction for attempting to obtain property by deception from the Express newspaper.
He said he had spoken to Ian Gallagher, a reporter for the Express - with whom he had worked on stories - prior to the attack on Cotter, but the call was related to a story about the Russian mafia and nothing to do with Ashia Hansen.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2854999.stm

June 2001
“Passing sentence, Judge Robert Orme told them: "The three of you not only entered into that conspiracy ... but you played the race card.
"In other words you falsely introduced a bogus, racist motive to attack Mr Cotter and try and make the attack look more convincing because it was, in my view, something which would be likely to make it the more credible and more believable at a time of great public sensitivity and awareness of such issues.
“It is the worse in your case, Mr Clair, you had the motivation to sell the story to the press and make a significant personal profit."
“He also denied knowing Clair had leaked the attack story to the press until all three were on remand in Birmingham's Winson Green prison.
The court was told the trio had orchestrated the sending of racist hate mail to Ms Hansen, four other prominent black British athletes, including Olympic heptathlon gold medallist Denise Lewis, and a backbench Labour MP.
The letters were a sham designed to give more credence to the attack.
Handwriting experts found the letters' likely author was Clair.
There was also no record of the racist group WANO, said to have been responsible, either before or after the attack or sending of the letters, said the prosecution.[/b]
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1370846.stm


Would be interested to learn when Surjit Singh Clair became involved with MOJO Scotland and how much work he carried out on their behalf


Forensic Science - ‘The role played by handwriting comparisons in the Chris Cotter case’
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=rdLJw9Pgt70C&pg=PA234&lpg=PA234&dq=Surjit+Singh+Clair&source=bl&ots=blHVDXC6hy&sig=ACfU3U2vSH0iib5k8EmiNOnT1QgtDxn6Lg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjp58ev_tXnAhUGTBUIHYmyDqo4ChDoATADegQICRAB#v=onepage&q=Surjit%20Singh%20Clair&f=false


The story of extreme racial prejudice appalled the country. But it was not true.

Cotter had set up the assault himself in a bizarre plan to revive the couple's relationship. The plot backfired when a jury at Birmingham crown court found him and his co-defendants, Craig Wynn and Surjit Singh Clair, guilty of conspiring to pervert the course of justice.

Not only did he waste weeks of police time, but he made the woman he hoped to marry fear for her life.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2001/jun/09/race.world1


What kind of person does this and why was Michelle Diskin Bates involved with a man like this?
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Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #1051 on: February 16, 2020, 01:55:02 PM »
The man cleared of murdering TV presenter Jill Dando after spending seven years in jail has won undisclosed libel damages from a newspaper group.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8682512.stm

“Following Wednesday's brief hearing, Mr George said: "I am pleased that the matter between myself and News Group Newspapers has been amicably settled following a successful mediation without the need for litigation."
He was at London's High Court with his sister, Michelle Diskin, who led the campaign to prove his innocence.
His counsel, Gordon Bishop, told the court he had brought the action over a number of articles in The Sun and the News of the World between August and November 2008.
He said News Group had withdrawn the "false allegations" and apologised for making them.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8415772.stm

Sell your story to the newspapers. Surjit Singh Claire gets you the best deal. Max Clifford miscarrage of justice.
http://www.effectivemedialtd.com/

Surjit Singh Clair advertises the News of the Worlds front page article -

”My Story by Barry George’ - I didn’t Kill Jill Dando I was Stalking Someone Else At The Time.”on his website above, alongside a few others - all of which he appears to have had a hand in

Mike Bourke states in Mike’s Story the battle to clear Barry George...

The headlines hit me like a slap in the face. The News of the World article was prefaced with the warnings, OUR LAWYERS ARE WATCHING’. They described Barry as a ‘BUG-EYED ODD-BALL.’ They claimed he confessed: ‘’ I didn’t kill Jill Dando-because I was stalking ANOTHER woman.’’ He was shown posing with the horrible prison issue plastic bag which I had concealed when entering the hotel. In their ‘World Exclusive’ he was quoted as saying ‘After leaving HAFAD I bumped into a woman who was later a prosecution witness and said I was stalking her… That was at 12.33pm…’ That was obviously a reference to Julia Moorhouse who he had always denied meeting.

“During the interview he gave (or rather sold for £80,000) to a down-market tabloid after his release, George insisted he was never fixated with the 37-year-old star, as the prosecution had alleged.
Yet if George wasn't obsessed with Jill at the time she was murdered, he certainly is now.
He spends hour upon hour poring over books and websites about her  -  and, now, with a breathtaking lack of insight into the likely furore, he aims to travel 150miles from London to the West Country.

Mr Singh Clair is a Midlands-based freelance journalist who was enlisted by the Miscarriages of Justice Organisation (MOJO) to promote George's cause four years ago, when he was battling to overturn his murder conviction.
He brokered the £80,000 interview deal after George's acquittal, and he is now among the trusted inner circle who proffer assistance to George


In an angry email to me this week, Michelle Diskin claimed her brother was the victim of a media-driven plot designed to smear and intimidate him. George's uncle on his mother's side, Michael Bourke fears that the police, having ultimately failed to nail him for murder, might be trying to frame him. It could be like O. J. Simpson  -  you get him second time around,' he said. His mother said much the same when I spoke to her at her West London home. 'I'm very worried for Barry,' she said. 'How can he be happy when they're all out to get him?'

The George family, incidentally, have been torn apart by in-fighting since their 'Free Barry' crusade ended.
Limerick bus-driver Mr Bourke, 53, is estranged from the main George camp for suggesting that the Miscarriages of Justice outfit might be self-serving.

He also questioned the wisdom of parading his nephew (who, in the words of one friend 'can't tell the difference between fame and infamy') before the TV cameras just hours after he was freed.

Of course, all this turmoil is just what a volatile character like George does not need, as he struggles to adjust to the real world after eight years inside.

In the grim appraisal of Ian Horrocks, the retired Scotland Yard detective who was number two on the original Dando murder inquiry, George is still a 'danger to women' and in need of constant supervision.

What causes personality disorders?
“Research suggests that genetics, abuse and other factors contribute to the development of obsessive-compulsive, narcissistic or other personality disorders.
In the past, some believed that people with personality disorders were just lazy or even evil. But new research has begun to explore such potential causes as genetics, parenting and peer influences:https://www.apa.org/topics/personality/disorders-causes

What is narcissistic personality disorder?
The word narcissism gets tossed around a lot in our selfie-obsessed, celebrity-driven culture, often to describe someone who seems excessively vain or full of themselves. But in psychological terms, narcissism doesn’t mean self-love—at least not of a genuine sort. It’s more accurate to say that people with narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) are in love with an idealized, grandiose image of themselves. And they’re in love with this inflated self-image precisely because it allows them to avoid deep feelings of insecurity. But propping up their delusions of grandeur takes a lot of work—and that’s where the dysfunctional attitudes and behaviors come in.

Narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) involves a pattern of self-centered, arrogant thinking and behavior, a lack of empathy and consideration for other people, and an excessive need for admiration. Others often describe people with NPD as cocky, manipulative, selfish, patronizing, and demanding. This way of thinking and behaving surfaces in every area of the narcissist’s life: from work and friendships to family and love relationships.

People with narcissistic personality disorder are extremely resistant to changing their behavior, even when it’s causing them problems. Their tendency is to turn the blame on to others. What’s more, they are extremely sensitive and react badly to even the slightest criticisms, disagreements, or perceived slights, which they view as personal attacks. For the people in the narcissist’s life, it’s often easier just to go along with their demands to avoid the coldness and rages.

Signs and symptoms of narcissistic personality disorder

Grandiose sense of self-importance
Grandiosity is the defining characteristic of narcissism. More than just arrogance or vanity, grandiosity is an unrealistic sense of superiority. Narcissists believe they are unique or “special” and can only be understood by other special people. What’s more, they are too good for anything average or ordinary. They only want to associate and be associated with other high-status people, places, and things.

Narcissists also believe that they’re better than everyone else and expect recognition as such—even when they’ve done nothing to earn it. They will often exaggerate or outright lie about their achievements and talents. And when they talk about work or relationships, all you’ll hear is how much they contribute, how great they are, and how lucky the people in their lives are to have them. They are the undisputed star and everyone else is at best a bit player.

Lives in a fantasy world that supports their delusions of grandeur
Since reality doesn’t support their grandiose view of themselves, narcissists live in a fantasy world propped up by distortion, self-deception, and magical thinking. They spin self-glorifying fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, attractiveness, and ideal love that make them feel special and in control. These fantasies protect them from feelings of inner emptiness and shame, so facts and opinions that contradict them are ignored or rationalized away. Anything that threatens to burst the fantasy bubble is met with extreme defensiveness and even rage, so those around the narcissist learn to tread carefully around their denial of reality.

Needs constant praise and admiration
A narcissist’s sense of superiority is like a balloon that gradually loses air without a steady stream of applause and recognition to keep it inflated. The occasional compliment is not enough. Narcissists need constant food for their ego, so they surround themselves with people who are willing to cater to their obsessive craving for affirmation. These relationships are very one-sided. It’s all about what the admirer can do for the narcissist, never the other way around. And if there is ever an interruption or diminishment in the admirer’s attention and praise, the narcissist treats it as a betrayal.

Sense of entitlement
Because they consider themselves special, narcissists expect favorable treatment as their due. They truly believe that whatever they want, they should get. They also expect the people around them to automatically comply with their every wish and whim. That is their only value. If you don’t anticipate and meet their every need, then you’re useless. And if you have the nerve to defy their will or “selfishly” ask for something in return, prepare yourself for aggression, outrage, or the cold shoulder.

Exploits others without guilt or shame
Narcissists never develop the ability to identify with the feelings of others—to put themselves in other people’s shoes. In other words, they lack empathy. In many ways, they view the people in their lives as objects—there to serve their needs. As a consequence, they don’t think twice about taking advantage of others to achieve their own ends. Sometimes this interpersonal exploitation is malicious, but often it is simply oblivious. Narcissists simply don’t think about how their behavior affects others. And if you point it out, they still won’t truly get it. The only thing they understand is their own needs.

Frequently demeans, intimidates, bullies, or belittles others
Narcissists feel threatened whenever they encounter someone who appears to have something they lack—especially those who are confident and popular. They’re also threatened by people who don’t kowtow to them or who challenge them in any way. Their defense mechanism is contempt. The only way to neutralize the threat and prop up their own sagging ego is to put those people down. They may do it in a patronizing or dismissive way as if to demonstrate how little the other person means to them. Or they may go on the attack with insults, name-calling, bullying, and threats to force the other person back into line.
https://www.helpguide.org/articles/mental-disorders/narcissistic-personality-disorder.htm/

6 Common Traits of Narcissists and Gaslighters

1. Frequent Lies and Exaggerations

2. Rarely Admit Flaws and Are Highly Aggressive When Criticized

3. False Image Projection

4. Rule Breaking and Boundary Violation

5. Emotional Invalidation and Coercion

6. Manipulation: The Use or Control of Others as an Extension of Oneself
https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/communication-success/201707/6-common-traits-narcissists-and-gaslighters
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Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #1052 on: February 16, 2020, 04:42:38 PM »
It was made clear during the BBC documentary last year the police aren’t looking for anyone else in relation to Jill Dando’s murder.
 
Paul Blackburn
Stephen Downing
Barry George

Three cases where the police aren’t looking for other suspects.

Beaten and buried, the brutal double murder of schoolboys and the suspect police can't question - Feb 2020

By Luke Traynor Chief. Reporter & Joe Thomas

“Detectives probing the unsolved murders of two 11-year-old boys want to quiz their original suspect from 40 years ago for a second time - but they are legally not allowed.

The killings of childhood friends John Greenwood and Gary Miller shocked the nation on August 16, 1980 after they were found severely beaten and dumped on a rubbish tip in Whiston.

The murderer remains at large four decades later, but in a dramatic new twist, police are desperate to re-question John Cheeseman.

Then 20, he was put on trial in 1981 for both tragedies, but was acquitted after serious criticisms were levelled at Merseyside Police over how they obtained his confession.

Nobody else has ever been charged over the boys' murders, which saw their badly injured bodies hidden under a mattress on the disused colliery site.

Now, armed with new evidence, police are keen to arrest Mr Cheeseman again and ask him about the killings
.

But due to the current double jeopardy law, officers are prohibited from doing so after that move was barred by the Director of Public Prosecutions (DPP).

Detectives went to the top London lawyer last March, but it was deemed their newly-compiled evidence was not "compelling" enough.

That has frustrated senior figures within Merseyside Police, who today, in a rare move, announced they were urging for a change in the double jeopardy law.

That campaign was begun by John and Gary's grieving families who described the current legislation as "ridiculous and outdated".

Mr Cheeseman, from Prescot, had learning difficulties, and was said to have the mental age of a 10-year-old after an accident as a young child left him with brain damage.

But there was no appropriate lawyer or guardian during his interviews, and the questioning was said to be arduously long, without a suitable amount of breaks.

Both failings were glaringly exposed at court and, subsequently, the jury took just 45 minutes to acquit him of both murders.

Merseyside Police recently apologised for those blunders, and they are hopeful of another chance to quiz Mr Cheeseman about his suspected involvement in John and Gary's brutal deaths.

He is believed to still be on Merseyside.

Debbie Greenwood, John's brother, is leading a social media campaign and has launched an emotive online petition asking for support.

She wrote: "Double jeopardy laws were introduced in England over 800 years ago.

"Just think how much has changed in 800 years?

"We even had the death penalty back then...isn't it time we made another change?

"Isn't it time to scrap this ridiculous, outdated law once and for all and allow officers to requisition an acquitted person when their investigation leads to it...

"My brother John and his friend Gary, both aged 11, were brutally attacked and left to die, bleeding and hidden under rubbish in 1980...

"...our families have suffered many, many years of pain and frustration."

"...the double jeopardy law is still preventing us from getting the justice that we so desperately need."

The boys were found on the rubbish tip by a dog walker who spotted a man with swept back dark hair and wearing a brown jacket acting suspiciously at the site, now covered by Stadt Moers Park.

They were taken to Whiston Hospital but both died as a result of head injuries.

After leaving John’s home on Raleigh Avenue, the boys had walked across the car park of what was then the Horseshoe pub, crossed Windy Arbour Road and went behind Whiston Labour Club.

Witnesses saw them heading towards the entrance of the rubbish tip through a hole in the fence.

This was the last time they were seen alive.

In 2017, Merseyside Police's cold case review team investigated the murders once more after a national newspaper journalist helped to uncover new evidence.

Detectives issued four separate appeal points which the ECHO understands remain active today.

Firstly, two boys are thought to have been attacked a month before the killings. A witness had claimed they had seen those boys, then aged between 10 and 15, being attacked by an older man outside Whiston Health Centre.

Secondly, another boy is believed to have run up a garden path in nearby Halsnead Avenue calling for help about two weeks before the murders.

Next, a man was seen with three young boys, aged between 12 and 14 years, near to the church hall on Dragon Lane, Whiston, between 6.45pm and 7.20pm on Saturday, August 16.

Two of the boys who were seen with the man were stood on the wall of the church hall and one was in the grounds of the church hall.

Police want to talk with anyone who was at Halstead Junior School with the boys in 1980, or members of the 28th St Helens (1st Whiston) Scout Group.

Finally, officers wish to speak to a boy called “Duffy” or “Cuffy” - thought to have been with the boys shortly before the murder, who owned a yellow chopper push bike.

He has never been traced.

It is believed the boys in each alleged sighting could refer to both John and Gary.

And police, who issued a public apology last May to John and Gary's families, suspect the man mentioned in the separate scenarios may be the same person.

Chief Constable Andy Cooke described the force's past probe as "inadequate" and "not as thorough as it could have been".

Assistant Chief Constable Ian Critchley spoke with the ECHO on Friday, and he again issued an appeal for those with information to come forward and help.

He said: "We have reviewed the case and undertaken further investigation.

Clearly, it's so important, to lose two 11 year-olds is tragic and traumatic, and it remains with those families and shapes their lives forever, but to not have somebody brought to justice makes it such an important case.

"We appeal to anyone who has new evidence that can help with our investigation to bring justice to John and Gary's family to come forward.

"We support the family's calls for a change in the double jeopardy law.

"We've met with the DPP and I respect their role and him meeting with us and the family to explain the legislation and how it is applied and interpreted.

And in hearing that we believe the only way to progress is that is for an amendment to the current act."

“The dialogue is ongoing and the families are working with us and a member of Parliament in relation to seeking to petition for legislative change."

Anyone with information is asked to contact investigators on 0151 777 3100, or the independent Crimestoppers hotline on 0800 555 111
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/beaten-buried-brutal-double-murder-17755169
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Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #1053 on: February 16, 2020, 06:18:04 PM »
Mike Bourke states in Mike’s Story the battle to clear Barry George...

“The headlines hit me like a slap in the face. The News of the World article was prefaced with the warnings, OUR LAWYERS ARE WATCHING’. They described Barry as a ‘BUG-EYED ODD-BALL.’ They claimed he confessed: ‘’ I didn’t kill Jill Dando-because I was stalking ANOTHER woman.’’ He was shown posing with the horrible prison issue plastic bag which I had concealed when entering the hotel. In their ‘World Exclusive’ he was quoted as saying ‘After leaving HAFAD I bumped into a woman who was later a prosecution witness and said I was stalking her… That was at 12.33pm…’ That was obviously a reference to Julia Moorhouse who he had always denied meeting.

Mike Bourke:
“Next day Margaret Michelle and I visited Belmarsh. I decided to ask Barry about Julia Moorhouse but he replied ‘no comment’. I assumed the role of interrogator. ‘Now you are making me suspicious, did you see helicopters while speaking to the woman?’ He replied ‘everybody in Fulham would have seen them’. ‘Did you see them’ I persisted. ‘I just told you that I did’. ‘Yes or no, answer the question’. ‘Yes’ he finally said. ‘That is all I need’, I ended. That confirmed to me that he had met Julia in the street near HAFAD at about 12.30, she recalled the man speaking about the circling helicopters. But it was unclear if he was on his way to HAFAD, or had he already been there.

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=ltgorwROQfwC&pg=PA191&lpg=PA191&dq=julia+moorhoise+barry+george&source=bl&ots=Osy93KB1cB&sig=ACfU3U0FTXfq_4eMlR8wsXOK6kqzD1zjZQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiNlMqAqObhAhXbURUIHaD5DjkQ6AEwA3oECAkQAQ#v=onepage&q=julia%20moorhoise%20barry%20george&f=false

Note: The ONLY Julia Michelle Diskin Bates refers to is Julia Roberts!

So why did Michelle Diskin Bates choose to omit Julia Moorhouse from her book, ‘Stand Against Injustice’ ?

Michael Bourke
“Outside the courtroom I spoke with Mr Clegg and Samuels. We discussed Julia Moorhouse, the women who described being spoken to by a man who could have been Barry approx an hour after Jill Dando’s murder. I felt her description of the man was too like Barry to be coincidence, and as she reported the meeting to the police straight away on that day it sounded genuine.
We agreed the man she met probably was Barry but disagreed as to whether they met before of after he had visited HAFAD. The Crown claimed before, which would support their case.


https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=ltgorwROQfwC&pg=PA191&lpg=PA191&dq=julia+moorhoise+barry+george&source=bl&ots=Osy93KB1cB&sig=ACfU3U0FTXfq_4eMlR8wsXOK6kqzD1zjZQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiNlMqAqObhAhXbURUIHaD5DjkQ6AEwA3oECAkQAQ#v=onepage&q=julia%20moorhoise%20barry%20george&f=false
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Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #1054 on: February 16, 2020, 07:33:49 PM »
Referring to the book, ‘The Criminal Cases Review Commission: Hope for the Innocent? by Dr Michael Naughton’

Empowering the Innocent (ETI)
@EmpowerInnocent
This book shows the failings of the CCRC in dealing with innocent victims of wrongful conviction and/or imprisonment and the urgent need for the repeal of s.13 of the Criminal Appeal Act 1995 - the "real possibility test": http://michaeljnaughton.com/?page_id=876 #injustice
@APPGMJ https://mobile.twitter.com/EmpowerInnocent/status/1163817666999570436

🎀 Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀
@Michelle_Diskin
Aug 26, 2019
Replying to
@EmpowerInnocent
 and
@APPGMJ
Definitely the wrong saviour 😇

Hanksoff03
@hanksoff03
Feb 9
This book is a must for anyone hungry4knowledge about the relationship between the CCRC and wrongful convictions - Can`t recommend highly enough- `Knowledge is power`+we`re only ever going2force change by `knowing` as much a possible.Put the energy wasted on anger into learning x

Hanksoff03
@hanksoff03
I`m going2use the vital info within this book to highlight the enormous issues2my MP
@JulianSturdy
+Minister
@morton_wendy
 who are`nt specialists on miscarriages so won`t know~We need2make it our business2get the knowledge+share it with other `powers that be`, who can then help us

Empowering the Innocent (ETI)
@EmpowerInnocent
Feb 11
This is precisely what it should be used for. It’s why some of us undertake critical research to highlight the limitations and/or outright failings of the @ccrcupdate in assisting innocent victims of wrongful convictions; to give victims and families ammunition for their voices.

https://mobile.twitter.com/EmpowerInnocent/status/1227163477338357761

So what were the ‘limitations/outright failings of the’ Criminal Cases Review Commission in cases like Simon Hall, Stephen Downing, Barry George etc and what did Dr Michael Naughtons ‘critical research’ uncover?

And how does the ‘Post Office IT scandal’ impact on the Robin Garbutt case and the murder of Diane Garbutt?

“Garbutt, who had already served 60 customers before dialling 999 at 8.37am, had in fact battered Diana to death with an iron bar as she lay in bed up to six hours earlier.
He also told police that the robbers had stolen £10,000 from the shop in the village of  Melsonby, North Yorkshire.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1378499/Postmaster-Robin-Garbutt-blamed-robbers-murder-wife-Diana.html

Hanksoff03
@hanksoff03
Feb 15
I`m devouring this book! Took one for Robin when we visited on Thursday - I don`t doubt this book + the work of
@EmpowerInnocent
+team will have a massively positive impact in the freedom fight for http://RobinGarbuttOfficial.com

https://mobile.twitter.com/hanksoff03/status/1228739894631108613
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Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #1055 on: February 16, 2020, 07:55:59 PM »
So why did Michelle Diskin Bates choose to omit Julia Moorhouse from her book, ‘Stand Against Injustice’ ?

Michael Bourke
“Outside the courtroom I spoke with Mr Clegg and Samuels. We discussed Julia Moorhouse, the women who described being spoken to by a man who could have been Barry approx an hour after Jill Dando’s murder. I felt her description of the man was too like Barry to be coincidence, and as she reported the meeting to the police straight away on that day it sounded genuine.
We agreed the man she met probably was Barry but disagreed as to whether they met before of after he had visited HAFAD. The Crown claimed before, which would support their case.


https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=ltgorwROQfwC&pg=PA191&lpg=PA191&dq=julia+moorhoise+barry+george&source=bl&ots=Osy93KB1cB&sig=ACfU3U0FTXfq_4eMlR8wsXOK6kqzD1zjZQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiNlMqAqObhAhXbURUIHaD5DjkQ6AEwA3oECAkQAQ#v=onepage&q=julia%20moorhoise%20barry%20george&f=false

The Battle to Clear Barry George of TV star Jill Dando's Murder
by Mike Bourke,  Don Hale (Editor)

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/21279469-the-battle-to-clear-barry-george-of-tv-star-jill-dando-s-murder



“Investigative journalist Don Hale, who has visited George in prison, believes there are parallels with the case of Stephen Downing, who spent more than 30 years in prison for the murder of a woman in Bakewell, Derbyshire. The conviction was eventually overturned after years of campaigning by Mr Hale and others.

"Barry is not the sort of guy you'd want home for tea but did he commit this brutal murder? No. This is a massive miscarriage of justice," says Mr Hale, who has passed on new details about the case to the CCRC.

"When you talk to Barry, it's clear he has a lot of mental health issues and doesn't really realise what was going on. He was an easy target who lived in the area and was a bit of a fantasist.".
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/special-report-disturbing-new-evidence-may-reveal-a-miscarriage-of-justice-in-dando-case-413556.html



Was Jill killed by accident by an assassin trying to kill Angela Peppiatt, Jeffrey Archer's former diary secretary. Peppiatt lived nearby, looked similar to Jill and even drove the same model of BMW. A witness saw a woman matching Peppiatt's description driving nearby within hours of Jill's murder. This theory was examined by the Criminal Cases Review Commission after a request from George's uncle Michael Bourke. Peppiatt gave crucial evidence at Lord Archer's 2001 perjury trial, which saw him jailed for three years
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/if-barry-george-didnt-kill-jill-323172
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Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #1056 on: February 17, 2020, 03:08:38 PM »
🎀 Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀
@Michelle_Diskin
Here is a review of the recent conference I was invited (and honoured) to speak at. It is by a student barrister,Tanya Beck, and she has agreed I can post her words up on this page. She has covered the conference with great clarity and I send my thanks.

On Women: Miscarriages of Justice and Criminal Deportations (the Association of Women Barristers...
I joined the Association of women barristers less than a week ago and immediately applied to attend this conference titled “women: miscarriages of justice and criminal deportations.“ Being the nerd...
linkedin.com https://mobile.twitter.com/Michelle_Diskin/status/1226881534055022597

Student barrister Tanya Beck blog is worth a read https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/association-women-barristers-event-miscarriages-justice-tanya-beck

On Michelle Diskin Bates she states,

“The evening started with our keynote speaker, Michelle Diskin “I’m an enemy of the State” Bates, sister of Barry George who was wrongly convicted of the murder of journalist Jill Dando. Michelle spent years fighting the criminal justice system to try and achieve justice for her brother, when the evidence against him was weak at best: “The police choose their man and after that they wear blinkers.” When it comes to access to justice, she says that  “Truth and justice have no place in the justice system: only points of law.”

I presume Michelle Diskin Bates has referred to herself as ‘an enemy of state’?

Might be worth her while understanding what is meant by using this turn of phrase.

An enemy of the state is a person accused of certain crimes against the state, such as treason. Describing individuals in this way is sometimes a manifestation of political repression. For example, an authoritarian regime may purport to maintain national security by describing social or political dissidents as "enemies of the state." In other cases, the individual in question may have in fact endangered the country and its population
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enemy_of_the_state

I”d describe Michelle Diskin Bates as beguiling, deluding and fallacious.

Maybe there’s more to why she chooses to see herself this way, presuming this is what she said?

The police didn’t choose ‘their man’ in this case. It was almost a year after Jill Dando’s murder before Barry George was finally apprehended. One of the reasons he wasn’t caught sooner was the fact he had used so many aliases over the years and was calling himself Bulsara at the time of the murder - therefore it’s unlikely his previous convictions and intelligence on him were flagging up.

There’s also no evidence to suggest the police were blinkered in arresting and charging her brother with murder, no matter how many times she repeats it. Barry George brought it on himself. His own actions gave him away.

Michelle Diskin Bates apparently says ’truth and justice have no place in the justice system.’

Yet another telling statement from her, again presuming this is what she said.

truth
/truːθ/
noun
1. the quality or state of being true."he had to accept the truth of her accusation"

justice
/ˈdʒʌstɪs/
noun
1. 1. 
just behaviour or treatment."a concern for justice, peace, and genuine respect for people"


From Michelle Diskin Bates point of view, I agree it’s unlikely she’ll ever know truth or justice because of the path she’s chosen.

I’ve no doubt the student barrister who met her, will one day recognise in her what many others before her have finally recognised.

And maybe one day so will Dr Michael Naughton?

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Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #1057 on: February 17, 2020, 03:44:22 PM »
Sept 2009
“A murder which took place in 1979 and saw an innocent man jailed for 27 years was finally solved yesterday when police announced that the real killer was a 17-year-old boy who confessed to the crime in the 1980s, but committed suicide after officers refused to believe him.

Teresa De Simone, 22, was raped and strangled in the back of her own car in Southampton on 5 December 1979. In 1982 Sean Hodgson, a pathological liar who erroneously confessed to the killing, was wrongly jailed for her murder. The 27 years and one month he spent in prison, before being freed in March this year, represents one of the Britain's biggest miscarriages of justice.

He was freed after DNA evidence, not available at the time of the murder, proved he was not at the scene. Hampshire Police reopened the case and yesterday revealed that David Andrew Lace murdered Ms De Simone.

Lace, a petty criminal, had confessed to the murder after being arrested for other matters in 1983 – about 18 months after Hodgson was convicted – saying he could no longer live with the guilt. But with several other men also claiming to be the killer, and with who they thought to be the real culprit already behind bars, the police dismissed his confession.

On 9 December 1988 – four days after the ninth anniversary of the murder – Lace committed suicide. Last month his body was exhumed – only the second time an exhumation has taken place in an historic murder inquiry – and DNA tests proved a match for those found at the scene of Miss De Simone's death.

Yesterday Miss De Simone's mother, Mary Sedotti, 77, said that the naming of Lace brought closure for her and her partner Michael. She said: "It's a relief to get it all done, hopefully now we can start to move on. We are just relieved that all this has come to a close. I didn't ever think they would find anybody after all this time, I'm just so grateful."

But the Crown Prosecution Service pointed out that, as no trial is able to take place, it will never be proven beyond doubt that Lace was the murderer. Alastair Nisbet, senior Crown prosecutor, said: "The CPS has advised Hampshire Constabulary that the evidence would have been sufficient to prosecute David Lace, if he were alive, with the offences of the rape and murder of Teresa De Simone.

"But this is in no sense a declaration that he was guilty of the offences. Had Mr Lace lived, our decision would merely have authorised the police to begin the legal process by charging him. Only after trial does a jury decide whether a person is guilty or not, on a higher standard of proof – beyond reasonable doubt."

Lace was 17 at the time of the murder and was living in his home city of Portsmouth. Detective Chief Inspector Philip McTavish said that Lace confessed to the crime when he was being questioned about a series of burglaries. The confession came to light when detectives re-examined the murder case this year. He stated that he could no longer live with what he had done and that he was better off in prison," the detective said.

Lace told police he stole a rucksack and cash from a meter at his lodgings in Portsmouth on the day before Miss De Simone was killed. He then walked to Southampton and arrived in the early hours of December 5 at the rear of the Tom Tackle pub, where he saw Miss De Simone dropped back to her car by a friend.

"He approached the car and tapped on the window, asking Teresa the time," explained Mr McTavish. He then forced his way into the driver's seat beside her and locked the doors to prevent her escape. She struggled, he sexually assaulted her and strangled her using the passenger belt in the car."

Mr McTavish said officers at the time looked into the confession and decided it revealed "numerous and significant inconsistencies" including incorrect descriptions of the car and Miss De Simone's clothing. Sean Hodgson, on the other hand, provided police with details that the prosecution claimed only the killer could possibly know and was convicted after a trial at Winchester Crown Court.

Yet he could have been freed in 1998, but for a mistake by the Forensic Science Service (FSS). In 1998, Mr Hodgson's legal team asked the FSS for permission to re-examine 20 items found in Ms De Simone's car using DNA analysis. But the FSS had replied that the relevant exhibits no longer existed when, in fact, they did.

That error delayed Mr Hodgson's release by ten years, but yesterday his solicitor, Julian Young, claimed that Mr Hodgson, who is now 57, could have been freed even earlier had the police decided to pursue Lace's confession.

He said: "The police appear to have had David Lace in custody, admittedly for other matters. He made certain admissions. It appears the police, for reasons obviously I don't know decided they were not going to treat him as a suspect. He was not charged but for some reason that information was never passed on to Sean Hodgson or the legal team who were then representing him." But Mrs Sedotti says she still harbours anger towards Mr Hodgson, who is almost certain to receive a multi-million pound compensation package, despite his innocence. She said: "If it was not for him telling all those lies in the first place then the police may have carried on speaking to others."

A statement from the family of Lace released by police said: "We have been left shocked and saddened at the latest news that David has been shown to have been responsible for such a terrible crime. We very much wish to extend our sympathies and condolences to Teresa De Simone's family at what must be a very difficult time for them."

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/killer-finally-unmasked-after-30-years-1789422.html

May 2011
“A County Durham man who wrongly spent 27 years in jail for murder and rape has been given a three-year community order for sexual assault.
Sean Hodgson was convicted in 1982 of the rape and murder of Teresa De Simone in Hampshire, but this was quashed in 2009 when new evidence came to light.
But less that 18 months after his release the 60-year-old, of Willington, sexually assaulted a 22-year-old woman.
He was given the community order with supervision at Durham Crown Court.
Miss De Simone's body was found in her car at the rear of a pub in Southampton in 1979.
Hodgson was convicted of her rape and murder, but a forensic review discovered that DNA found at the scene was not his.
The Court of Appeal quashed his conviction and he was released in 2009.
Hodgson, of Park Street, Willington, near Crook, admitted sexually assaulting a vulnerable woman on 12 August last year.
Judge Christopher Prince said: "The fact this defendant has spent 27 years in custody for a crime he did not commit is not a relevant sentencing factor.
"He is not entitled to a reduction from sentence solely because he has served that time in custody.
"He clearly bears a great resentment against a criminal justice system that has deprived him of 27 years' liberty.
"The key is to protect the public as much as is possible from any possible future offending by Hodgson."
In 2009 Hampshire Police exhumed the body of David Lace, who committed suicide in 1988 at the age of 26, and DNA evidence revealed he was Miss De Simone's killer.
Hodgson, who suffers from depression and schizophrenia, maintained his innocence throughout his imprisonment for the murder, which prevented him from being paroled.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-13391943

Was Sean Hodgson monitored following the overturning of his murder conviction by the CoA and was his case included in Carolyn Hoyle & Mai Sato’s research and the ‘ 437’ peoples lives changed’

Last year Professor Carolyn Hoyle stated, re the Criminal Cases Review Commission,

437 peoples lives that have been changed around by the commission, many people who would otherwise be in prison and are out and those people are left to rebuild their lives that is not easy as research by one of my doctoral students has shown but none the less they have the opportunity to do so”
https://ox.cloud.panopto.eu/Panopto/Pages/Embed.aspx?id=69d464e5-e28a-4400-b964-a9dd01201ea0

2008
Gabe Tan: Why join an Innocence Project?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3lMN-eK7ByY

Gabe Tan saying how “ordinary people can do extraordinary things”
[/quote]

Oct 2012
"Justice should not depend on luck" by Gabe Tan
Gabe Tan argues that fresh evidence should not be needed in miscarriages of justice

”The Court of Appeal (Criminal Division) is often described as the safety net of the criminal justice system. One of its key functions is to ensure that the wrongly convicted can have their convictions quashed. In 1995, following a series of high profile miscarriages of justice including the Guildford Four and the Birmingham Six, the Criminal Cases Review Commission was established as an added safeguard to the Court of Appeal. Its role is to review alleged miscarriages of justice and refer convictions and sentences deemed to have a ‘real possibility’ of being quashed back to the Court of Appeal.

Yet, just how effective are these safeguards in protecting the innocent and ensuring their prompt acquittal?

On the 18th March 2009, Sean Hodgson walked out of the Royal Courts of Justice frazzled and overwhelmed by the crowding press. After 27 years of incarceration, it did not take the Court of Appeal much deliberation to declare Hodgson a free man. Hodgson’s conviction for the murder and rape of Teresa de Simone was overturned when DNA testing on biological swabs taken from the victim proved him to be factually innocent.

The Forensic Science Service very soon became the target of the media’s fingerpointing exercise for wrongly reporting that the swabs were destroyed 11 years earlier when the request for DNA testing was first made. Hampshire Police was also subjected to criticism for ruling out another suspect, David Lace, who confessed to the murder in 1983 and took his own life shortly after.

However, the focus on blaming individual parts of the criminal justice jigsaw lost sight of the systemic dysfunctions with the criminal appeal system that, for over two decades, failed to overturn Hodgson’s conviction.

The jury’s conviction of Hodgson back in 1982 was hardly surprising. At trial, the jury heard how Hodgson made a series of voluntary confessions – first to a priest, then to a prison officer, to the police and to his own solicitor. He made oral and written admissions to the murder, each time giving a detailed account of how he killed Teresa de Simone – details which, the prosecution claimed, could only have been known by the killer. Supporting his confessions, his blood group was a match to that of the killer, and he was undoubtedly present in the locality at the time of the murder.

The unreliability of Hodgson’s confession was put forward at trial and, certainly, when he applied for leave to appeal in 1983. Hodgson was a notorious compulsive liar with a known severe personality disorder. He had made repeated false claims to the police for other criminal offences, including confessions for two other murders that he could not have committed as they did not happen. Many of the details that the prosecution claimed could only have been known by the killer were widely reported in newspapers and television reports.

The then Court of Criminal Appeal dismissed Hodgson’s leave to appeal almost as quickly as the Court of Appeal would allow it 26 years later. The initial appeal was dismissed on the basis that these arguments, as forceful as they may be, were either already heard by the jury or could have been made at the time of his trial. Instead, presumably because counsel had thought that Hodgson was unlikely to be able to withstand the prosecution’s crossexamination, a tactical decision was made for Hodgson to give an unsworn statement from the dock which barely gave details of why and how he had made up the false confessions. The safety net of the appeal court offered little protection to this vulnerable man. Rather, a severely mentally ill defendant was somehow to be individually blamed for not being able to stand in the dock and convincingly articulate to the jury the complex psychological processes that made him repeatedly confess to the most heinous of crimes.

The advent in knowledge on the phenomenon of false confessions appeared to be of no help at all to Hodgson either. Since the early 1990s, dozens of others who voluntarily confessed to crimes that they had not committed have had their convictions quashed due to fresh psychiatric evidence not heard at trial that rendered their convictions unsafe. Key examples include Judith Ward, Andrew Evans, Ashley King, Darren Hall and Patrick Kane who all suffered from forms of psychiatric or personality disorders that made them vulnerable to false confessions. As far back as 1989, the Lloyd-Bostock report cited false confessions as the second biggest cause of wrongful convictions in Britain after eyewitness misidentification. The pioneering work of internationally renowned forensic psychologist Professor Gisli Gudjonsson further enhanced our understanding of how even ordinary people with normal intelligence can be susceptible to making false confessions either voluntarily or under the pressures of police interrogation. It appeared that because Hodgson’s history of making false confessions was already known to the jury who nevertheless decided to convict him, the doctrine of finality precluded the (un)reliability of his confession from being re-examined.

As with all other appeals against conviction, the primary way to defy this long-standing doctrine is to find fresh evidence that renders a conviction unsafe – a requirement under section 23 of the Criminal Appeal Act 1968 and section 2 of the Criminal Appeal Act 1995 respectively. Hodgson’s fate was therefore sealed, at least until luck befell him with the discovery of the exonerating DNA evidence – the fresh evidence that held the key to his eventual acquittal by the Court of Appeal.

Hodgson is one of the ‘lucky’ few – perhaps an odd term to describe someone who served almost three decades of wrongful incarceration. However, the discovery of fresh evidence is not something that can be guaranteed for every innocent victim of wrongful conviction. Indeed, the Criminal Cases Review Commission, which similarly applies the fresh evidence criteria in deciding whether to refer an application back to the appeal courts, has referred fewer than four per cent of over 13,000 applications it has received since its establishment.

The Innocence Network UK, established at the University of Bristol in September 2004 to facilitate investigations into alleged wrongful conviction has, to date, deemed around 200 prisoners (out of over 1,000 requests for assistance) to have a plausible claim of innocence. Many are convicted on evidence that is dubious to say the least – alleged cell confessions; inconsistent witness testimonies; questionable forensic evidence; and forms of highly circumstantial evidence. Almost all these 200 prisoners have failed in their first appeal – the principal reason being that arguments relating to the unreliability of the evidence that convicted them have already been heard by the jury and, unless fresh evidence is produced, the Court of Appeal is not entitled to go behind the jury’s verdict. Around half of these cases have been refused at least once by the Criminal Cases Review Commission. Despite the questionable circumstances of their convictions, the Criminal Cases Review Commission, whose role is generally confined to a review of fresh evidence, can do little, if anything, to assist them.

However, returning to the case of Hodgson, it should not have required fresh evidence in the form of a DNA exoneration to quash his conviction 27 years later. He was convicted mainly on his own confession, which we knew then and certainly more so in the last two decades, to be an inherently unreliable form of evidence. Hodgson’s conviction should arguably have been overturned much earlier on the basis of his questionable confession alone. Yet, without the miraculous discovery of the DNA evidence, Hodgson would most certainly still be trapped within the prison system.

If there is anything that Hodgson’s wrongful conviction has taught us it is that justice should not be dependent on the luck of finding fresh evidence. If the overriding concern of the Court of Appeal and the Criminal Cases Review Commission is truly about safeguarding the innocent, then the requirement for fresh evidence should not be a barrier for revisiting the convictions of those who might be.

Gabe Tan is Executive Director of the Innocence Network UK (INUK)

http://www.haldane.org/news/2012/10/1/justice-should-not-depend-on-luck-by-gabe-tan.html

What were Professor Gisli Gudjonsson and other ‘experts’ findings in relation to David Laces confession to murder?

”He approached the car and tapped on the window, asking Teresa the time," explained Mr McTavish. He then forced his way into the driver's seat beside her and locked the doors to prevent her escape. She struggled, he sexually assaulted her and strangled her using the passenger belt in the car."

Mr McTavish said officers at the time looked into the confession and decided it revealed "numerous and significant inconsistencies" including incorrect descriptions of the car and Miss De Simone's clothing. Sean Hodgson, on the other hand, provided police with details that the prosecution claimed only the killer could possibly know and was convicted after a trial at Winchester Crown Court”
.

Gabe Tan doesn’t mention Sean Hodgsons 2011 conviction for sexual assault. He apparently suffered ’from depression and schizophrenia’ around this time

”Hodgson, of Park Street, Willington, near Crook, admitted sexually assaulting a vulnerable woman on 12 August last year.”

And what were Professor Gisli Gudjonsson and other ‘experts’ findings in relation to Sean Hodgsons confession to sexual assault of a ‘vulnerable women’ ?
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Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #1058 on: February 17, 2020, 05:32:40 PM »
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Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #1059 on: February 18, 2020, 12:16:01 PM »
Surjit Singh Clair
June 2001
It is the worse in your case, Mr Clair, you had the motivation to sell the story to the press and make a significant personal profit."
“He also denied knowing Clair had leaked the attack story to the press until all three were on remand in Birmingham's Winson Green prison.

The court was told the trio had orchestrated the sending of racist hate mail to Ms Hansen, four other prominent black British athletes, including Olympic heptathlon gold medallist Denise Lewis, and a backbench Labour MP.
The letters were a sham designed to give more credence to the attack.[/b]
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1370846.stm

Would be interested to learn when Surjit Singh Clair became involved with MOJO Scotland and how much work he carried out on their behalf

What kind of person does this and why was Michelle Diskin Bates involved with a man like this?


April 2006
“Surjit Singh Clair, spokesman for the Miscarriages of Justice Organisation (MOJO), described the plans as "awful" and predicted a flood of appeals to Europe by victims of miscarriages of justice.
He said victims of miscarriages of justice were already having large parts of their compensation deducted to pay for the "privilege" of board and living expenses in prison.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2006/apr/19/ukcrime.immigrationpolicy

2008
“Barry George, the man acquitted last week of killing presenter Jill Dando, is being represented by freelance publicist Surjit Singh Clair. Singh Clair has also represented the Miscarriages of Justice Organisation.
https://www.prweek.com/article/837937/the-week

Police seek ways to monitor Barry George as he gains his freedom
Surjit Singh Clair said Mr George, 48, acquitted last week of murdering TV presenterJill Dando, now realised his past stalking and pestering of women was wrong.
He said: “It was inappropriate. He was lonely at the time and that was the only way he knew to communicate. But he said he has learnt from that and he won’t be doing that kind of thing again.
“It’s a case of self-policing for Barry. He now realises it is wrong.”
Mr Clair was speaking after it emerged officials want to keep a close eye on Mr George amid fears over his former lifestyle.
(Source: The Herald Aug 2008)

“George's agent Surjit Singh Clair said: "We have been approached by Devon Films. I can't confirm Barry's cut but it will easily run into six figures."
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/lights--camera--cash-in-1656288

Dec 2009
Barry George, the man acquitted at a retrial of killing Jill Dando, has won substantial damages and an apology from the publisher of the Sun and News of the World over a series of articles suggesting that he was responsible for the killing and was a stalker.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2009/dec/16/barry-george-news-of-world

What hand, if any, did Surjit Singh Clair have in regards to the stories in ‘the Sun & News of the World” - which lead to Barry Georges libel claim?

So why in 2011 did he write and publish this and how did Gordon Bishop manage this;

Mr George had brought claims against articles in both The Sun and the News of the World. Allegations included that there were grounds to suspect him of the murder despite his acquittal,
https://www.5rb.com/news/barry-george-wins-apology/

which was clearly smoke and mirrors

The Defendant now recognises that those articles would have been understood to mean that there were grounds to suspect Mr George of the murder despite his acquittal. The Defendant accepts that the verdict of the second jury in acquitting Mr George was correct and it apologises to Mr George for any suggestion otherwise.
On Sunday the 3rd August 2008 the News of the World carried a report of the interviews

https://www.5rb.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/George-v-News-Group-SIOC-16-Dec-2009.pdf

Dec 2009 - Excerpt
A number of other articles about Mr George were published in both The Sun and the News of the World in October 2008. Various allegations were made including that he had become obsessed with Kay Burley, that he had pestered a woman whose advert about a dog he had answered and that he had become obsessed with Pam Wright, the fiancée of Steve Wright, the Suffolk Strangler. The Defendant now accepts that, although on one occasion Mr George did cycle to Sky TV studios to try to collect a tape of his interview with Kay Burley, Mr George did not pose a threat and was not obsessed with her nor did he pester any woman who had a dog for sale nor did he become obsessed with Pam Wright.
https://www.5rb.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/George-v-News-Group-SIOC-16-Dec-2009.pdf

Surjit Singh Clair advertises the News of the Worlds front page article -

”My Story by Barry George’ - I didn’t Kill Jill Dando I was Stalking Someone Else At The Time.”on his website above, alongside a few others - all of which he appears to have had a hand in

Sell your story to the newspapers. Surjit Singh Claire gets you the best deal. Max Clifford miscarrage of justice.
http://www.effectivemedialtd.com/

There are two videos posted on the above website, one with Surjit Singh Clair & Michelle Diskin Bates and one with Surjit Singh Clair & Pam Wright (Referred to as Pam Goodman in the video)

Steve Wrights murder trial began in Jan 2008
https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/world/man-to-face-trial-over-ipswich-prostitution-murders-344270.html?utm_source=link&utm_medium=click&utm_campaign=nextandprev

Surjit Singh Clair can be seen escorting Pam Wright/Goodman into an interview with Kay Burley
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pVNdWT3ul-E and here attending Steve Wrights murder trial https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/video/steve-wright-trial-wright-gives-evidence-suffolk-ipswich-news-footage/669077886

Just as he did with Barry George and Michelle Diskin Bates (As be seen in the video above)

Noel O’Gara on ‘Reasons why Steve Wright should appeal his conviction as the Ipswich murderer‘
https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/uk.legal/f7Rt1HhiFxI

Noel O’Gara makes claim in his book, ‘The real Yorkshire ripper’ - ‘They knew That Jill Dando's killer was at large while Barry George was locked away.’
https://books.google.co.uk/books/about/The_Real_Yorkshire_Ripper.html?id=bYVWHQAACAAJ&redir_esc=y

Obsessed with visiting Jill Dando's grave and acting more erratically than ever, Barry George is a man on the edge by David Jones 10th October 2008

“During the interview he gave (or rather sold for £80,000) to a down-market tabloid after his release, George insisted he was never fixated with the 37-year-old star, as the prosecution had alleged.
Yet if George wasn't obsessed with Jill at the time she was murdered, he certainly is now.
He spends hour upon hour poring over books and websites about her  -  and, now, with a breathtaking lack of insight into the likely furore, he aims to travel 150miles from London to the West Country.

“Mr Singh Clair is a Midlands-based freelance journalist who was enlisted by the Miscarriages of Justice Organisation (MOJO) to promote George's cause four years ago, when he was battling to overturn his murder conviction.
He brokered the £80,000 interview deal after George's acquittal, and he is now among the trusted inner circle who proffer assistance to George.


In an angry email to me this week, Michelle Diskin claimed her brother was the victim of a media-driven plot designed to smear and intimidate him. (David Jones 10th October 2008)
Noel O’Gara is still claiming serial killer Steve Wright was ‘stitched up’  https://m.facebook.com/comment/replies/?ctoken=2493869674222952_2493937207549532&count=23&curr&pc=1&ft_ent_identifier=2493869674222952&gfid=AQD58gVLJwh71vDK&notif_t=feed_comment
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Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #1060 on: February 19, 2020, 12:42:21 PM »
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In the interests of truth and justice, please sign this petition for Essex Police to release ALL documents withheld from Jeremy Bamber’s Legal Defence · http://Change.org

https://mobile.twitter.com/EmpowerInnocent/status/1229355280238075904

Maybe someone from the Innocence Network - Gabe Tan? , Bamber or someone from his campaign team would clarify if the Innocence Network ever worked on the Bamber case.

Was always under the impression they believed Bamber was guilty as charged.

Or if they did ever work on the Bamber case maybe they’d discuss why they chose to stop working on it.

Seems Dr Michael Naughton has now widened the goal posts

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1/2 Thank you Wullie, but I suspect you are dealing with an ignorant troll. We never said that Simon Hall WAS innocent. Rather, we investigated his claim of innocence, which is a fundamentally different things, and showed the so called “evidence” to be totally discredited.

https://mobile.twitter.com/EmpowerInnocent/status/1186526810068193281


Dr Michael Naughton, Reader in Sociology and Law with joint appointments in the Department of Sociology and the School of Law, has given a number of interviews to national and local BBC radio stations on Simon Hall's admission to the murder of Joan Albert after a decade of maintaining innocence.
They include:

BBC Radio 4 PM, interviewed by Eddie Mair, 8th August

BBC Radio 5 Live, Drive, interviewed by Anna Foster, 8th August

BBC Radio Bristol, Drive, interviewed by Geoff Twentyman, 8th August

BBC Radio Suffolk, interviewed by Mark Matthews, 9th August

Listen again will be available for a week following the broadcasts.

Simon Hall was convicted in 2003 for the murder of 79-year-old Joan Albert in what the prosecution claimed was an interrupted burglary of her home.  Before his recent confession to the murder, he had maintained his innocence for over a decade and had been assisted by the University of Bristol Innocence Project in submissions to the Criminal Cases Review Commission who referred his conviction back to the Court of Appeal (Criminal Division) in December 2010.

https://www.bristol.ac.uk/spais/news/2013/304.html
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Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #1061 on: February 19, 2020, 12:55:42 PM »

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Empowering the Innocent (ETI)
@EmpowerInnocent
1/2 Thank you Wullie, but I suspect you are dealing with an ignorant troll. We never said that Simon Hall WAS innocent. Rather, we investigated his claim of innocence, which is a fundamentally different things, and showed the so called “evidence” to be totally discredited.

https://mobile.twitter.com/EmpowerInnocent/status/1186526810068193281

4 people liked the above tweet, including -

Hanksoff03
Michelle Diskin Bates &
William Beck

Empowering the Innocent (ETI)
@EmpowerInnocent
2/2 We were informed by his wife that he had confessed & wrote to him for confirmation & to let us know HOW he did it. He did not reply. We have never seen a signed confession. But, even if he did confess, like many innocent victims do, HOW did he do it & where is the evidence?
https://mobile.twitter.com/EmpowerInnocent/status/1186527971970048001

5 people liked the above tweet, including Hanksoff03 & William Beck but Michelle Diskin Bates chose not to

Found it telling when I learned Michael Naughton had blocked me on twitter; not long after I’d joined

Hanksoff03 Retweeted

Hanksoff03
@hanksoff03
@SandraLean5 has written "One of the biggest difficulties for the wrongly convicted in the early days is that they know what they r fighting FOR but not necessarily what they r fighting AGAINST,as their perception of the CJS is so far removed from the realities of that system."
4:43 PM · Feb 17, 2020·Twitter Web App

https://mobile.twitter.com/hanksoff03/status/1229446194621034503

Thought Sandra Lean made claim she’d contacted her publishers to have her book ‘No Smoke’ withdrawn?

🎀 Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀
@Michelle_Diskin
Replying to
@hanksoff03
@EmpowerInnocent
 and 3 others
I think Stephanie is back...thoughts?
12:55 PM · Nov 23, 2019·Twitter for iPad

Hanksoff03
@hanksoff03
Nov 23, 2019
Replying to
@Michelle_Diskin
@EmpowerInnocent
 and 3 others
Who is Stephanie...?

https://mobile.twitter.com/michelle_diskin/status/1198223505600462849

Hanksoff03
@hanksoff03
Dec 21, 2019
You are a troll ***** and I have been warned about you.



Why would people like Dr Michael Naughton and Michelle Diskin Bates et al seemingly refer to me as a ‘troll’ and why would they ‘warn’ Hanksoff03 about me?

And what are they warning her about exactly?

Excerpt by Dr Michael Naughtons foreword from Michelle Diskin Bates book, ‘Stand Against Injustice’
This may well explain another feature of the book which sets it apart from others of the same genre. Written with great integrity and without even a hint of self pity or hatred towards, or vengeance against those responsible for causing her brothers wrongful conviction or who played a part in preventing its overturn or are currently refusing him compensation. Michelle has a clear focus to simply tell the truth, warts and all.’

Quote
From my viewpoint, her ‘moral conscience’ appears off-kilter, her ‘good conscience’ is highly questionable and her ‘moral obligation’ seems self serving as indeed does Michael Naughton’s.

Incidentally the ‘biblical definition’ of a hypocrite is ’a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, especially a person whose actions belie stated beliefs.

Empowering the Innocent (ETI)
@EmpowerInnocent
Nov 23, 2019
We need to be very careful not have wolves in sheep's clothing amongst us who claim that they are innocent when they are not and which discredits the innocence movement and the chances of the genuinely innocent overturning their wrongful convictions:
http://innocencenetwork.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Michael_Naughton_Factual_Innocence_Legal_Guilt_PSJ_May_2008.pdf
https://mobile.twitter.com/SofaAssoc/status/1198343477744095237

(The above tweet was ‘liked’ by Mark Alexander http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?board=98.0 )

Who is Dr Michael Naughton referring to when he makes claim,

“We need to be very careful not have wolves in sheep's clothing amongst us who claim that they are innocent when they are not and which discredits the innocence movement and the chances of the genuinely innocent overturning their wrongful convictions
(sic)
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #1062 on: February 19, 2020, 08:50:00 PM »
🎀 Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀
@Michelle_Diskin
Jan 21
Replying to
@reece_dinsdale
 and
@UKChange
Thanks to this corrupt fiasco a man had it used in evidence in a murder trial, to take his good reputation. He was found guilty but is innocent. #freerobingarbut
https://mobile.twitter.com/mariaspears/status/1219880204727996416

🎀 Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀
@Michelle_Diskin
Replying to
@hanksoff03
People who are not guilty often try to have there wrongful convictions overturned. Funny that...you’d think they’d just lie down and take it...wouldn’t you?
#robingarbutt is not guilty! ! !
2:52 PM · Feb 8, 2020·Twitter for iPad

https://mobile.twitter.com/Michelle_Diskin/status/1226156869024174082
Hanksoff03 Retweeted
Hanksoff03
@hanksoff03
@SandraLean5 has written "One of the biggest difficulties for the wrongly convicted in the early days is that they know what they r fighting FOR but not necessarily what they r fighting AGAINST,as their perception of the CJS is so far removed from the realities of that system."
4:43 PM · Feb 17, 2020·Twitter Web App

https://mobile.twitter.com/hanksoff03/status/1229446194621034503
Hanksoff03
@hanksoff03
Feb 18
It gives me hope to read this
@KarlTurnerMP
 - we are fighting for freedom and justice for our Robin Garbutt, locked away 4almost TEN years- had PO/Horizon been efficient his trial would have not come about-Huge plank of [ censored word ] case was theft which never happened :.(

https://mobile.twitter.com/hanksoff03/status/1229821145840594949

Robin Garbutts 999 call to the police https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BJFgCQNRsQE

Robin Garbutt police interview https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1FOJmgKyrxw

Robin Garbutt states,

“do you know what, I knew straight away we I was going to be robbed, I just knew it cos.. obviously.. you know.. and I wasn’t even worried.. do you know.. I know it sounds stupid but .. the first time I was absolutely shitting a brick and this time.. but.. the first thing he said to me.. straight away was.. he said er don’t do anything stupid we’ve got your wife and er he said turn the lights off and er lock the door.. so I er um I er went back to     Blah blah

“he handed me a um a black hold-all and er he said put the money in the bag I think or put the money from the safe.. I can’t rem.. put the money in the bag I think he said.. erm..so I just walked into the post office.. he followed behind me   Blah blah

“I put the money in the hold-all, there was something else in there already.. blah blah. I noticed when I put the money in blah blah.. I emptied.. put my till money in.. nothing in there just peanuts.. you know., a hundred quid..

Hanksoff03
@hanksoff03
Great documentary, shocking+heartbreaking in equal measure. I am fighting4my friend http://RobinGarbuttOfficial.com who`s life was destroyed on 23/03/2010 when his wife was murdered in their PO+worse was2come when Rob was wrongly accused of theft-Can I introduce the PO/Horizon scandal...

https://mobile.twitter.com/hanksoff03/status/1230233571664826370
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #1063 on: February 19, 2020, 10:24:40 PM »
Surjit Singh Clair

Hansen driver 'wanted £6,000 for story'
“A man who allegedly helped to stage a bogus racist attack on the former boyfriend of triple-jumper Ashia Hansen contacted a journalist within hours of the incident, a court has heard.
Surjit Singh Clair called Daily Express reporter Ian Gallagher as Chris Cotter received hospital treatment for stab wounds to his head and back, Birmingham Crown Court was told.

Mr Cotter, 29, of Plymouth, is charged with planning the attack on himself to win back Ms Hansen's affections and pay off massive debts by selling his story.

The financial adviser spent 36 hours in hospital following the alleged attack on 21 March last year, which he claimed was carried out by a gang who objected to him going out with a black woman.

Mr Cotter, Mr Clair, 31, of Reedswood, Walsall, and Craig Wynn, 29, of Kingstanding, Birmingham, all deny conspiring to pervert the course of justice by alleging there was a racially-motivated conspiracy to commit violent acts on black athletes and their immediate associates.

They also deny attempting to obtain property by deception, by trying to sell the story to the newspaper.

Mr Clair acted as a driver for Ms Hansen and Mr Cotter following the alleged incident.

The court heard that the Express journalist received a call on his mobile phone, shortly before midnight on the night of the attack.

The call was from a source known to Mr Gallagher as Tom Carter, later identified in the dock as Mr Clair.

Mr Gallagher said he did not remember the call, but checked his voice mail the next morning and eventually spoke to Mr Clair.

The pair were in regular contact over the next day, the court heard, with 53 calls made or attempted between the journalist, Mr Clair and a phone at the hospital where Mr Cotter was being treated.

A story appeared in the Express three days after the attack took place.

Mr Gallagher told the court that the article was based on what he had learned from Mr Clair, although he said the racist element was later confirmed by a freelance journalist.

Mr Clair arranged an interview between Mr Gallagher and Mr Cotter at a Birmingham hotel, the court heard, with a view to another story appearing in the paper.

Mr Gallagher added that a payment fee had been discussed.

He said: "A figure of £6,000 was mentioned. Nothing had really been decided. There may have been more money if he [Mr Clair] could have arranged for an interview with Ashia Hansen."

The jury was told that Mr Clair had provided other stories for Mr Gallagher in the past, and had been paid £4,000 for information in 1998.

Earlier, the court heard that Ms Hansen had asked Mr Clair if he would be able to provide her with a bodyguard after the alleged attack.

The trial was adjourned until Thursday. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1309351.stm
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #1064 on: February 19, 2020, 11:23:31 PM »
Investigative journalist Don Hale, who has visited George in prison, believes there are parallels with the case of Stephen Downing, who spent more than 30 years in prison for the murder of a woman in Bakewell, Derbyshire. The conviction was eventually overturned after years of campaigning by Mr Hale and others.

Downing guilty of impersonating policeman - Oct 2008
“A man who had his conviction for murder overturned after spending 27 years in jail was found guilty today of wearing police clothing in public. Stephen Downing was charged after trying to buy four cans of shandy in Buxton in February dressed in an ex-police issue jacket, dark trousers and black boots, Buxton Magistrates’ Court, in Derbyshire, was told. He was fined £437 and ordered to pay £625 costs. The court also ordered that the jacket be destroyed. Downing, of Bakewell, Derbyshire, had been mistaken as a police officer while wearing the jacket before, the court heard. The 52-year-old served 27 years in prison before being released on bail in 2001. In 2002 his conviction for bludgeoning typist Wendy Sewell to death with a pickaxe handle was quashed.
https://metro.co.uk/2008/10/13/downing-guilty-of-impersonating-policeman-25764/

Barry George
“In the early 1980s, he was convicted of impersonating a police officer
https://simple.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_George
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