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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #1125 on: April 19, 2020, 03:34:19 PM »
Empowering the Innocent (ETI)
@EmpowerInnocent
Lancashire police officers caught on camera saying that he will “make something up”!ETI is well aware of such behaviour and advises that any and all interactions with the police should be filmed to protect against being convicted for something that you didn’t do or didn’t say.
https://mobile.twitter.com/EmpowerInnocent/status/1251759106614013953

David Allen Green
@davidallengreen
"I will make something up...who are they going to believe, me or you?"
A thread about the
@LancsPolice
 incident
6:59 pm · 18 Apr 2020·TweetDeck

https://mobile.twitter.com/davidallengreen/status/1251571059494719490

Hanksoff03 Retweeted
Empowering the Innocent (ETI)
@EmpowerInnocent
Lancashire police officers caught on camera saying that he will “make something up”!ETI is well aware of such behaviour and advises that any and all interactions with the police should be filmed to protect against being convicted for something that you didn’t do or didn’t say.


Empowering the Innocent (ETI) Retweeted
Michelle Diskin Bates
@Michelle_Diskin
Replying to
@EmpowerInnocent
And yet the public balk at us saying there are people in prison, wrongfully convicted...sometimes for crimes that never even happened!
11:34 am · 19 Apr 2020·Twitter for iPad

https://mobile.twitter.com/i/status/1251759106614013953
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #1126 on: April 21, 2020, 07:10:45 PM »
Today

Dr Hannah Quirk
@HannahQuirk1
With great power comes great responsibility...

https://mobile.twitter.com/HannahQuirk1/status/1251847441818714118

Quoting from Spider-Man (or Voltaire)

Dr Hannah Quirk appointed Inner Temple Academic Fellow
Dr Quirk, Reader in Criminal Law at The Dickson Poon School of Law, has been selected to take up this prestigious three-year role.
The Inner Temple is one of the four membership associations for barristers, providing legal training, resources and regulation to support them in their careers.   
Their Academic Fellows Scheme aims to recognise the outstanding contribution of legal teaching and research of early to mid-career academics. It also aims to support their research and build a stronger relationship between the Bar, judiciary and legal academia.
Speaking on her appointment, Dr Quirk said: “It’s a huge honour to be appointed Academic Fellow at the Inner Temple. I plan to use the Fellowship to further strengthen the links between King’s and legal practice, finding out, and working closely with, criminal barristers on some of the pressing issues of the day.
“I will also be using the excellent Inner Temple library to update my research on silence and disclosure as well as complete my book on miscarriages of justice. I am really looking forward to it.”
https://www.kcl.ac.uk/news/dr-hannah-quirk-appointed-inner-temple-academic-fellow

She’s also a trustee on the sentencing council https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/

CCRC
@ccrcupdate
We are now looking for @ccrcupdate Commissioners. This is a fantastic, intellectually challenging and rewarding public appointment playing a vital part in the justice system. The role is home-based with occasional travel to Birmingham. Full details here: http://ccrc.gov.uk/about-us/jobs/
1:53 PM · Apr 21, 2020·Twitter Web App

Dr Hannah Quirk
@HannahQuirk1
This should be a brilliant job as a CCRC Commissioner. Very disappointing it is advertised as only 52 days/yr & mostly home-based. This is a significant downgrading from previous appointments. Look forward to reading forthcoming report from
@APPGMJ
 on this.
 #WrongfulConvictions

The Justice Gap
@JusticeGap
Yes, agreed. The role of commissioner has been significantly undermined: https://thejusticegap.com/its-vital-that-ccrc-has-money-and-freedom-to-investigate-miscarriages-of-justice-properly/

https://www.thejusticegap.com/its-vital-that-ccrc-has-money-and-freedom-to-investigate-miscarriages-of-justice-properly/

Mick Geen
@J4BenGeen
Replying to
@HannahQuirk1
and
@APPGMJ
Says up to 5 vacancies and I’m wondering if these are additional commissioners or replacements for ones that have left/about to leave? I was informed in Feb that the already delayed @APPGMJ report was due out by the end of Mar-
Further delayed now-Perhaps @APPGMJ could clarify.


Hannah Quirks tweets got a ‘like’ from Trudi Benjamin & Hannah Quirk ‘liked’ Mick Geen’s tweet - his son is a convicted serial killer nurse found with a worn syringe of anaesthetic in his pocket when searched

Would like to know what cases Hannah Quirk work on at the CCRC and who’s cases she was involved in referring to the ?Court of Appeal
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #1127 on: April 23, 2020, 05:22:53 PM »
Which I find strange given he wrote and published the following:


Guilt, non-guilt and innocence: what will Strasbourg decide? - Jon Robins
“In May 2011, the supreme court rejected the government's contention that only those who could prove their innocence could be entitled to compensation in R (Adams) v Secretary of State for Justice. It was in that ruling that Hale (and others) grappled with the meaning of "miscarriage of justice". The majority (five to four) held that a miscarriage of justice had occurred when "a new or newly-discovered fact" showed conclusively that the "evidence against a defendant has been so undermined that no conviction could possibly be based upon it". Allen argues that such a test is contrary to her right under article 6(2) of the European Convention to be presumed innocent.

The Adams ruling has subdivided miscarriages into three, possibly four, categories: first, where the applicant can effectively prove innocence; second, where there is evidence that undermines the safety of the conviction; third where the fresh evidence might be sufficient for the court to quash the conviction but there may be other evidence upon which a jury could still convict; and fourth, a purely technical quashing of a conviction.

Last month there was a three-day hearing in the high court considering compensation in a number of cases including Barry George, who spent eight years in prison after being wrongly convicted of the murder of TV presenter Jill Dando. "The public might think, as they watch someone being released from the court of appeal, that they would be compensated by the state for being wrongfully convicted and for all the time they have served in prison," comments Mark Newby, who specialises in miscarriage cases. The solicitor is representing Ian Lawless, one of the lead cases alongside George. "That expectation is invariably not met. Under the current Ministry of Justice scheme only one award has been made post-Adams."

Newby has another case stayed pending the ruling by the Strasbourg court on the Allen case. If the European court decides in favour of Allen, the lawyer believes this will help the other compensation cases, with the possible exception of category four cases.

I wrote about the campaign to reinstate the ex gratia scheme last year. Frankly, persuading people to support a campaign for adequate compensation for the wrongfully convicted is never going to be a hugely popular crusade — and trying to persuade ministers to prioritise miscarriages over other voter-friendly and cash-starved causes nigh on impossible. Nonetheless the campaign is both right and one of fundamental importance — the state should be properly held to account for its errors.

The shocking attitude of the last government towards miscarriages of justice can best be summed up by Tony Blair's notorious sound bite: "It is perhaps the biggest miscarriage of justice in today's system when the guilty walks away unpunished."

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2012/nov/21/guilt-innocence-strasbourg-lorraine-allen


His selective reporting is a classic example of publication bias, which leads to a distorted representation and is suggestive of tunnel vision.

”Miscarriage compensation test case succeeds as other claimants fail”
25 January 2013

The Administrative Court has this afternoon handed down its judgment in R (on the application of Ali & Ors,) v Secretary of State for Justice [2013] EWHC 72 (Admin) (25 January 2013), which will affect the future of Miscarriage of Justice Compensation for future claimants. Of the five claimants only Ian Lawless succeeded. Mr Lawless was represented by Garden Court North Chambers’ Matthew Stanbury, instructed by Mark Newby of QualitySolicitors Jordans. In the original criminal appeal he was represented by Chambers’ Mark Barlow.

Mr Lawless successfully appealed his conviction for murder in 2009 based on the fact that the only evidence against him was his own false confessions given due to mental health problems he had at the time.

The Secretary of State refused to pay him compensation and as a result he was compelled to bring a challenge against the decision . This was always a strong case in which there was simply no other evidence upon which a jury could have convicted him . The Secretary of State sought to advance a wholly unrealistic argument to suggest this could be the case which was dismissed by the Court who paid tribute to Matthew Stanbury’s “admirably succinct submissions” [179].

The Court of Appeal ruled that the Secretary of State’s decision to refuse compensation in the case of Ian Lawless be quashed and Mr Lawless’s entitlement to compensation must be reconsidered by the Secretary of State in light of this judgment [187].

In an article published today on The Justice Gap “Not Innocent Enough to be Compensated?”, Mark Newby and Matthew Stanbury write:

Current and future claimants will likely find that their prospects of success are not improved in any substantial way by this decision; however they will at least now be able to have some confidence that the secretary of state will be required to respect judicial rulings on the state of the evidence, and to have proper regard to the rules of evidence that applied in the original and any subsequent trial. They should at the very least know that if the Secretary of State does seek to go behind such rulings, he must give reasons for doing so, that may be amenable to judicial review, and that he should only make such a departure in exceptional circumstances.”



“Overall, they remain faced with a system in which the successive secretaries of state have demonstrated themselves only too willing to find ways to avoid paying out compensation no matter how hard the search for reasons to do so.”

https://gcnchambers.co.uk/miscarriage-compensation-test-case-succeeds-as-other-claimants-fail/

Lawless was convicted of murder after making various "confessions" to third parties, including regulars in a pub and a taxi driver,
His conviction was later ruled unsafe after fresh medical evidence revealed he had a "pathological need for attention".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-21204099

Ian Lawless was represented by Mark Newby. More on Ian Lawless here https://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/news/grimsby-news/grimsby-town-fan-who-cleared-1187985

Last May Mark Newby wrote an article which was published in the justice gap, ironically, given the Barry George case as one example, he stated:

”No one wants to see a conviction overturned on technical grounds compensated”

 *&^^&

”The Court of Appeal needs to acknowledge miscarriages of justice – and ensure that they don’t occur in the future”
(2018)
https://www.thejusticegap.com/the-court-of-appeal-needs-to-acknowledge-miscarriages-of-justice-and-ensure-that-they-dont-occur-in-the-future/
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #1128 on: April 23, 2020, 06:27:36 PM »

CCRC
@ccrcupdate
We are now looking for @ccrcupdate Commissioners. This is a fantastic, intellectually challenging and rewarding public appointment playing a vital part in the justice system. The role is home-based with occasional travel to Birmingham. Full details here: http://ccrc.gov.uk/about-us/jobs/
1:53 PM · Apr 21, 2020·Twitter Web App

Dr Hannah Quirk
@HannahQuirk1
This should be a brilliant job as a CCRC Commissioner. Very disappointing it is advertised as only 52 days/yr & mostly home-based. This is a significant downgrading from previous appointments. Look forward to reading forthcoming report from
@APPGMJ
 on this.
 #WrongfulConvictions

The Justice Gap
@JusticeGap
Yes, agreed. The role of commissioner has been significantly undermined: https://thejusticegap.com/its-vital-that-ccrc-has-money-and-freedom-to-investigate-miscarriages-of-justice-properly/

https://www.thejusticegap.com/its-vital-that-ccrc-has-money-and-freedom-to-investigate-miscarriages-of-justice-properly/

Mick Geen
@J4BenGeen
Replying to
@HannahQuirk1
and
@APPGMJ
Says up to 5 vacancies and I’m wondering if these are additional commissioners or replacements for ones that have left/about to leave? I was informed in Feb that the already delayed @APPGMJ report was due out by the end of Mar-
Further delayed now-Perhaps @APPGMJ could clarify.


Hannah Quirks tweets got a ‘like’ from Trudi Benjamin & Hannah Quirk ‘liked’ Mick Geen’s tweet - his son is a convicted serial killer nurse found with a worn syringe of anaesthetic in his pocket when searched

Would like to know what cases Hannah Quirk work on at the CCRC and who’s cases she was involved in referring to the ?Court of Appeal

Dr Hannah Quirk
@HannahQuirk1
Nov 12, 2019
I'm delighted to be an Academic Fellow
@TheInnerTemple
 for the next 3 yrs, part of its work building a stronger relationship between the Bar, judiciary and legal academia. Along with
@aoifedalylaw
 
@DavorJancic
 &
@RussellBuchan


https://mobile.twitter.com/JackmerrittJack/status/1194324205862576128

Jack Merritt commented on the above tweet 12th Nov 2019 & was sadly ‘stabbed to death by Usman Khan’ 11 days later
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #1129 on: April 24, 2020, 01:56:50 PM »

Who around the same time commented on a tweet made by Susan Young “How this woman stood by Barry George and helped him survive” https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2008/aug/03/jilldando.mentalhealth

Professor Susan Young
@DrSusanYoung1
I went to bed last night upset. Id read a tweet/comments criticising clin psychologists 4 posting tips to help ppl in #lockdown. We’re all doing what what we can. We are/were also part of NHS. A colleagues been deployed to debrief frontline staff. How fast ppl forget to #BeKind
9:25 AM · Apr 2, 2020·Twitter for iPhone

Michelle Diskin Bates Ribbon
@Michelle_Diskin
Replying to
@DrSusanYoung1
Really? What ignorance! We need all the help we can get...wisdom, discernment, the experiences of others. Personally, I can choose which advice I follow, but if it’s not there...there’s NO CHOICE. Well done
@DrSusanYoung1

Professor Susan Young
@DrSusanYoung1
Replying to
@Michelle_Diskin
Thank you. You are so right. People a quick to criticise and slow to praise.

Michelle Diskin Bates
@Michelle_DDiskin
I have to keep reminding myself hurting-people, HURT people

Professor Susan Young
@DrSusanYoung1
Thank you Louise. It really did distress me. I didn’t sleep well. They implied that we were responsible for making people feel anxious. I just thought to myself ‘I may as well hang up my boots’. Silly really and not like me to feel like giving up

Professor Susan Young
@DrSusanYoung1
So true Melanie. Everyone is doing what they can. I wonder what that person is doing? I didn’t respond as I don’t think it’s an appropriate time to take it on. People are dying. I hope though he sees what I wrote and thinks about it

Professor Susan Young
@DrSusanYoung1
Perhaps he is lucky and hasn’t been affected yet. I know two young people with COVID, both early 20’s and v unwell. One is a good friend of my daughter (who is now in self isolation). Elderly people are really suffering in self-I. We must all be constructive and positive


Did Michelle Diskin Bates actually ask a friend like she suggests in her tweet or has she embellished on the actual facts?

Michelle Diskin Bates
@Michelle_Diskin
For anyone who has been released from prison...I asked a friend, Consultant Clinical Psychologist, Dr Susan Young, if she could offer any help on how to cope.

Q. Dr Suzy, any specific advice for those who may be feeling like they are back in prison because of lockdown?
11:24 AM · Apr 24, 2020·Twitter for iPad

Michelle Diskin Bates
@Michelle_Diskin
Replying to
@Michelle_Diskin
A. They should use the C.O.P.E system (below) to help them get through. But... it’s important to remind themselves they are not in prison. They can open the door, breathe in the air, walk around the block.

Michelle Diskin Bates
@Michelle_Diskin
They should do that every day and when out, think of the best things about being out of prison. Remind themselves this is not prison, it’s hard but it’s different.

Michelle Diskin Bates
@Michelle_Diskin
They are not ‘outsiders’ but collaborating with the rest of society to save lives. It’s not a sanction. It’s constructive.

COPE with lockdown
Many people are struggling to COPE with life at home, especially when in 'lockdown'. We know we need routine and structure but it's hard to get motivated whe...

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https://mobile.twitter.com/Michelle_Diskin/status/1253630863998402560

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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #1130 on: April 27, 2020, 10:48:09 AM »
Michelle Diskin Bates
@Michelle_Diskin
Stand Against Injustice by Michelle Diskin Bates. The true story of the flawed investigation into the murder of Jill Dando, and the subsequent wrongful conviction of disabled man, Barry George.
Jill Dando. Today, 26th April 2020...It’s been 21 years since Jill’s murder and we are still no nearer to the truth (crying emoji) Nothing from the media, but WE REMEMBER!’

https://mobile.twitter.com/Michelle_Diskin/status/1254508829129224193

Empowering the Innocent (ETI)
@EmpowerInnocent
The gross failures of the police investigation into the murder of Jill Dando and the wrongful conviction of Barry George must never be forgotten. Will the true murderer of Jill Dando ever be brought to justice? Will Barry George ever be compensated for his wrongful imprisonment?
https://mobile.twitter.com/EmpowerInnocent/status/1254674414957932544
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #1131 on: May 01, 2020, 09:38:41 PM »
“Barry George has revealed how he is still looking over his shoulder 20 years after being acquitted of the murder of BBC star Jill Dando.

Just weeks after his acquittal he had a gun pressed to the back of his head and was told to 'watch your back'.

Speaking of how he still fears he will be attacked, George said he believes the threat came from someone connected to the Crimewatch presenter.

Speaking to the Mirror, Barry, 58, said that despite his conviction being overturned 10 years ago he does 'not feel free' and is 'looking over my shoulder'.

After being found guilty in 2001, Barry was cleared at a retrial in 2008.

He had moved to Hackney, east London, and it was there that the threat was made a year after he was freed.

Barry says: 'When I was in emergency accommodation in Hackney, I was stood in a long hallway and I had a gun put to my head and was told 'Watch your back'.

'I went to the police station and told them and they gave me lip service. I was living in fear.

'There were two things in my mind: I've been acquitted of this crime and then I get a gun to my head.'

The Met police confirmed that a man in his 40s had reported such an incident in Hackney during 2009.

However, they were unable to give full details of the probe.

David Wells, a criminal defence specialist from Wells Burcombe Solicitors, was at the police station when Barry reported the sinister threat.

David said: 'He was incredibly distressed... sweating, out of breath and in quite a state.

I'd seen Barry on many occasions and I had never seen him this distressed.

Later that year Barry fled to Ireland where he hoped the harassment would end.

Crimewatch presenter Miss Dando, 37, was shot outside her home in Fulham, south-west London in April 1999.

The murder prompted an enormous inquiry by Scotland Yard and resulted in unemployed loner Mr George being convicted in July 2001.

He was granted a retrial on appeal, and received a unanimous acquittal by a jury in August 2008.

Mr George then made a claim for compensation for lost earnings and wrongful imprisonment, but this was rejected in January 2010.

He went to court again to seek a reconsideration of his case, which could have opened the way for him to claim as much as £500,000.

His barrister, Ian Glen QC, insisted that the original decision to refuse compensation was 'defective and contrary to natural justice', arguing that for more than 30 years, those acquitted on retrials in similar circumstances had been compensated.

Previously, compensation was only awarded for a miscarriage of justice if a claimant could effectively prove they were innocent.

But a Supreme Court hearing in 2011 widened this to say a person is eligible for compensation if they can prove that no set of circumstances could possibly lead to their conviction by a jury.

The judges ruled Mr George's case did not pass this second test. His solicitor, Nick Baird, said: 'We are very disappointed with the judgment and shall be applying for permission to leapfrog the Court of Appeal to have the matter heard before the Supreme Court.'

Mr George's action was one of five test cases to decide who is now entitled to payments in 'miscarriage of justice' cases.

Decisions to refuse payouts in all five cases were defended by current Justice Secretary Chris Grayling in a three-day hearing last October
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5961027/Man-acquitted-killing-Jill-Dando-told-watch-walking-free.html

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=9318.555

https://insidetime.org/with-the-right-level-of-expertise-grounds-for-appeal-can-be-identified/
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #1132 on: May 02, 2020, 05:16:53 PM »
Dr Hannah Quirk
@HannahQuirk1
Nov 12, 2019
I'm delighted to be an Academic Fellow
@TheInnerTemple
 for the next 3 yrs, part of its work building a stronger relationship between the Bar, judiciary and legal academia. Along with
@aoifedalylaw
 
@DavorJancic
 &
@RussellBuchan


https://mobile.twitter.com/JackmerrittJack/status/1194324205862576128
Dr Hannah Quirk
@HannahQuirk1
My letter in @thetimes on the proposal for suspending jury trials due to Covid-19 https://thetimes.co.uk/article/times-letters-trials-without-juries-would-ease-the-backlog-cdb8bnmwh
8:41 AM · May 2, 2020·Twitter Web App


Thread
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #1133 on: May 03, 2020, 04:04:18 PM »
David Wells, a criminal defence specialist from Wells Burcombe Solicitors, was at the police station when Barry reported the sinister threat.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5961027/Man-acquitted-killing-Jill-Dando-told-watch-walking-free.html

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=9318.555
Michelle Diskin Bates
@Michelle_Diskin
“With the right level of expertise, grounds for appeal can be identified” – insidetime & insideinformation https://insidetime.org/with-the-right-level-of-expertise-grounds-for-appeal-can-be-identified/
8:21 pm · 1 May 2020·Twitter for iPad

https://insidetime.org/with-the-right-level-of-expertise-grounds-for-appeal-can-be-identified/
https://mobile.twitter.com/Michelle_Diskin/status/1256302665442693125

Linda - #justicesystemfailedus
@Elsie2127
Time&time again I review appeal cases&find myself agreeing with my client(s) that more cld&shld have been done on behalf of defendant by his or her lawyers. Unfortunately, even in the most troubling of cases there is often not a great deal that can be done https://insidetime.org/with-the-right-level-of-expertise-grounds-for-appeal-can-be-identified/
9:36 am · 2 May 2020·Twitter for iPhone

Matthew Scott
@Barristerblog
2 May
Replying to
@Elsie2127
"I have for some time been regarded as one of the country’s most recognised criminal appeal lawyers."

Dr Hannah Quirk
@HannahQuirk1
17h
Are @InsideTimeUK running advertorials now?

https://mobile.twitter.com/Elsie2127/status/1256502797765357568
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #1134 on: May 03, 2020, 11:57:13 PM »
Steven A Drizin
@SDrizin
When fiction turns into fact | Feature from King's College London https://kcl.ac.uk/when-fiction-turns-into-fact#.XZuyk_7fMmI.twitter
@HannahQuirk1
 was our go-to moderator in England & the UK. Dr. Quirk's brilliant, funny, and fun to hang out with. She also knows an injustice when she sees one. #bringbrendanhome


Dr Hannah Quirk
@HannahQuirk1
Oct 8, 2019
Replying to
@SDrizin
Thanks so much Steve. Can I be moderator when you come over here to tell us how you got Brendan home?

https://mobile.twitter.com/SDrizin/status/1181326232023162880

Justice – and compensation – denied by new legislation by Hannah Quirk - April 2014

Excerpts:
‘Is a victim of a miscarriage of justice somebody, such as Stefan Kiszko who forensic evidence  proved was innocent of any involvement in the rape and murder of a schoolgirl? Or is it Sally Clarke, whose conviction for murdering her babies was quashed because of evidence which cast doubt on her conviction, but did not prove her innocence? Or is it Nicholas Mullen, whose conviction for running an IRA ‘bomb-factory’ was overturned because the government had acted unlawfully in extraditing him for trial?
Following legal challenges by those denied compensation, including Barry George, who was wrongly convicted of the murder of Jill Dando, the government is seeking to narrow the test. It argues that this change will bring clarity and save money. Opponents argue that it will be challenged in the courts and is wrong in principle.
The new test will define a miscarriage of justice as occurring when “if and only if the new or newly discovered fact shows beyond reasonable doubt that the person did not commit the offence.”
On the face of it, this is a straightforward test. The problem is that few of the most notorious miscarriages of justice would meet this standard of proof.
The Court of Appeal looks at the ‘safety’ of a conviction – it very rarely says that a successful appellant is innocent. Short of new DNA evidence, very few new facts will establish innocence – most will just make it impossible to be sure that the jury would have convicted.


“There is obviously a spectrum of harm when a conviction is overturned, but this could be reflected in the amount of compensation paid rather than making the scheme so narrow.
It is wrong in principle, and potentially contravenes the European Convention on Human Rights, to expect somebody to prove their innocence and it contravenes the separation of powers for politicians to decide if a person is innocent or not.
This latest legal change is a retrograde, mean-spirited and potentially unlawful measure. It will damage British justice and the individuals involved in these cases. As Lord Pannick expressed it so eloquently in the House of Lords debate: “[there is] nothing more likely to keep open the sore of a regrettable miscarriage of justice.”
http://blog.policy.manchester.ac.uk/featured/2014/04/justice-and-compensation-denied-by-new-legislation/

Hannah Quirk appears to be suggesting in her tweet to Steven Drizin she holds a firm belief of innocence in his (Brendans) case further supported by the fact her name appears on his ‘pardon letter’ here https://patch.com/wisconsin/waukesha/full-list-250-who-signed-brendan-dassey-pardon-letter

Full List Of 250 Who Signed Brendan Dassey Pardon Letter
This week, attorneys representing Brendan Dassey say nearly 250 people – including a wide range of retired U.S. government officials and some of the nation's most prominent legal and political experts – wrote Wisconsin Gov. Tony Evers in support of Dassey's petition for executive clemency.

“Can I be moderator when you come over here to tell us how you got Brendan home?”

Though when it comes to UK cases she appears to not to want to openly commit herself; but why?

Regarding ‘Justice – and compensation – denied by new legislation’ Hannah Quirk concludes,

 ‘It will damage British justice and the individuals involved in these cases.’


But what exactly does she mean by this?

How will it ‘damage British justice’ ?

And who are the  ‘individuals involved in these cases’ referred to?

How has the Barry George’s ‘unsafe’ murder conviction damaged ‘British justice’ and what ‘harm’ has it caused ?
Hannah Quirk:
I am an academic with a particular interest in miscarriages of justice. I look at how changes to the criminal law and criminal evidence increase the risk of wrongful convictions and how the criminal justice system then investigates and responds to such cases. I also have an interest in sentencing. I am an Academic Fellow of the Honourable Society of the Inner Temple. I sit on the editorial boards of The Criminal Law Review and Legal Studies. I am a trustee of Transform Justice and the Sentencing Academy. I regularly appear in the media discussing topical criminal justice issues.
https://uk.linkedin.com/in/hannah-quirk-22770230

Other names which appears alongside Hannah Quirks are:

Gisli Gudjonsson, Commander of the Order of the British Empire (CBE), Emeritus Professor, Institute of Psychiatry, King's College London

How has Gisli Gudjonsson possible cognitive bias impacted on his work within the innocence movement and is he an innocence activist?
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #1135 on: May 04, 2020, 01:10:26 PM »
Steven A Drizin
@SDrizin
When fiction turns into fact | Feature from King's College London https://kcl.ac.uk/when-fiction-turns-into-fact#.XZuyk_7fMmI.twitter
@HannahQuirk1
 was our go-to moderator in England & the UK. Dr. Quirk's brilliant, funny, and fun to hang out with. She also knows an injustice when she sees one. #bringbrendanhome


Dr Hannah Quirk
@HannahQuirk1
Oct 8, 2019
Replying to
@SDrizin
Thanks so much Steve. Can I be moderator when you come over here to tell us how you got Brendan home?

https://mobile.twitter.com/SDrizin/status/1181326232023162880

Cheers David  8((()*/ http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,10260.msg479230.html#msg479230

“I guess they got it all on film or tape or whatever what we did that night"

https://streamable.com/ayckx8

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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #1136 on: May 05, 2020, 02:26:34 PM »
Steven A Drizin
@SDrizin
When fiction turns into fact | Feature from King's College London https://kcl.ac.uk/when-fiction-turns-into-fact#.XZuyk_7fMmI.twitter
@HannahQuirk1
 was our go-to moderator in England & the UK. Dr. Quirk's brilliant, funny, and fun to hang out with. She also knows an injustice when she sees one. #bringbrendanhome


Dr Hannah Quirk
@HannahQuirk1
Oct 8, 2019
Replying to
@SDrizin
Thanks so much Steve. Can I be moderator when you come over here to tell us how you got Brendan home?

https://mobile.twitter.com/SDrizin/status/1181326232023162880

Steven A Drizin
@SDrizin
Replying to
@2ndddsucks
I would contact @CliveSSmith and Emily Bolton at http://criminalappeals.org.uk Both are Brits who came to the US to work on death penalty cases, stayed for a good long bit, and then came back to your side of the pond. 
Emily Maw of @InnocenceProjNO followed in their footsteps & stayed
APPEAL
A charity law practice that fights miscarriages of justice and demands reform. We provide legal representation in high impact innocence cases for people who cannot afford to pay for a lawyer themse...
appeal.org.uk
7:18 PM · Mar 9, 2019·Twitter Web Client


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A Lie Can Travel Halfway Around the World While the Truth Is Putting On Its Shoes

Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #1137 on: May 07, 2020, 11:04:59 AM »
‘This is the pilot episode of a podcast about the work of the Innocence Project London, part of the global innocence movement. It aims to provide an honest account of how difficult this work is and why it matters, both to reform of the Criminal Justice System as well as in providing experiential learning to law and criminology students at the UoG

https://innocenceprojectlondon.transistor.fm/

The Innocence Project London was established in 2010 and is based at the University of Greenwich. It is a pro-bono project. The project investigates alleged wrongful convictions of individuals who have maintained their innocence and have already exhausted the appeals process.

Louise Hewitt doesn’t mention Michael Naughton during the pilot episode of her podcast. Wonder why?

She refers to an ‘innocence model’ - which appears based on the Bristol Innocence Project Model - & how she’s had to “manipulate it to work in a criminal justice system which finds convictions unsafe”

But refuses to explain what was meant by ‘manipulation’ and doesn’t appear interested in innocence fraud

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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #1138 on: May 20, 2020, 01:48:40 PM »
Louise Hewitt doesn’t mention Michael Naughton during the pilot episode of her podcast. Wonder why?

She refers to an ‘innocence model’ - which appears based on the Bristol Innocence Project Model - & how she’s had to “manipulate it to work in a criminal justice system which finds convictions unsafe”

But refuses to explain what was meant by ‘manipulation’ and doesn’t appear interested in innocence fraud

Michael Naughton’s latest article for Jon Robins Justice Gap online magazine headed,

I won’t stop until I die’: David Nash’s dying declaration of innocence
https://www.thejusticegap.com/i-wont-stop-until-i-die-david-nashs-dying-declaration-of-innocence/


Empowering the Innocent (ETI)
@EmpowerInnocent
“I won’t stop until I die.” My article in The Justice Gap
@JusticeGap
 on David Nash’s dying declaration of innocence, it’s status in law and how it could be used in a posthumous application to the ⁦
@ccrcupdate
⁩  https://thejusticegap.com/i-wont-stop-until-i-die-david-nashs-dying-declaration-of-innocence/
10:34 AM · May 20, 2020·Twitter for iPhone


https://www.thejusticegap.com/i-wont-stop-until-i-die-david-nashs-dying-declaration-of-innocence/
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