Why has Bamber campaigned to say he isn't a psychopath?

[Caroline]

The problem with a scan is on who’s ‘expert’ opinion he’d rely on to interpret it

Well, it would have to be an independent expert. There is a British equivalent of Prof James Fallon but I can't remember his name.

[Nicholas]

Well, it would have to be an independent expert. There is a British equivalent of Prof James Fallon but I can't remember his name.

Has Prof Fallon ever given expert evidence in a criminal case?

[Nicholas]

SC's mental health issues are at the heart of the case.

They are really not Holly

But this is what Bamber hoped the police would believe

[ISpyWithMyEye]

They are really not Holly

But this is what Bamber hoped the police would believe

Yep, and except for hysterical Taff almost none of the police at the scene and on the case believed Jeremy from day one.

They had him sussed alright; it just took four weeks to gather the evidence.

Meanwhile, 35 years later a handful of people still haven’t been able to join the dots up 

[Holly Goodhead]

They are really not Holly

But this is what Bamber hoped the police would believe

I'm not referring to the diagnosis of paranoid schizophrenia. I'm referring to a high probability SC suffered an attachment disorder as a result of multiple caregivers during the early years and June's severe depression caused by her decision to adopt SC.

[Nicholas]

I'm not referring to the diagnosis of paranoid schizophrenia. I'm referring to a high probability SC suffered an attachment disorder as a result of multiple caregivers during the early years and June's severe depression caused by her decision to adopt SC.

This is what you posted Holly

Where's the evidence for this?  If the police and prosecutors wanted access to JB's medi records they could obtain them without JB's permission with a warrant. 

What would anyone expect to find on his medi records?  He was a 24 year old man and there's no evidence he had any mental or physical health issues. 

SC had a long history of mental illness and was taking prescribed medication for such.  SC's mental health issues are at the heart of the case.  Mind you I can't see what further evidence her records could be expected to provide.

You’d previously stated

The CCRC will only refer an application if it meets the criteria. 

IMO previous appeals and CCRC applications have failed as they don't strike at the heart of the conviction which is to unequivocally undermine the blood/silencer evidence and argue it was fabricated evidence.

[Holly Goodhead]

This is what you posted Holly

You’d previously stated

IMO the mental illnesses suffered by June and SC go to the heart of the case. But in terms of JB's conviction the blood/silencer are at the heart of the case.

[Nicholas]

IMO the mental illnesses suffered by June and SC go to the heart of the case. But in terms of JB's conviction the blood/silencer are at the heart of the case.

Is there any evidence JB has refused anyone access to his medi records?

I didn't say SC's at the heart of the case.  I said SC's mental health issues are at the heart of the case.  This isn't my opinion it's a fact.  Either JB is guilty as the prosecution claim with the probable motive being his inheritance and hatred of his adoptive family.  Or SC murdered her family and took her own life as the defence claim due to her mental illness.

The silencer and blood need completely undermining for an acquittal.

[Common sense]

IMO the mental illnesses suffered by June and SC go to the heart of the case. But in terms of JB's conviction the blood/silencer are at the heart of the case.

Not for a criminal case, you are mixing up culpability or mens rea with committing the crime actus reus. 

Take the platform pusher as an example, the evidence that he was guilty of the crime was the CCTV of him doing it. The fact that he was mentally ill was a mitigating factor. Say another random mental patient had been collared nearby, dressed in similar clothes. His mental health would not be evidence that he had pushed anyone.

There is no evidence that Sheila committed this crime, regardless of her mental state.   

[Caroline]

Has Prof Fallon ever given expert evidence in a criminal case?

I don't think so, but I think the British guy has and I still can't rememb

[Caroline]

I'm not referring to the diagnosis of paranoid schizophrenia. I'm referring to a high probability SC suffered an attachment disorder as a result of multiple caregivers during the early years and June's severe depression caused by her decision to adopt SC.

In your professional opinion? You basically slander Fletcher and no one is allowed to refer to Bamber as a psychopath, not even the psychiatrist who classified him as one pretrial; but you're able to apply a 'high probability' diagnosis on Sheila? Also, if Sheila suffered an attachment disorder- then so did Jeremy, there's a high probability that culminated in him becoming a psychopath.

https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/55765296.pdf

[mrswah]

Does it really matter whether or not JB is a psychopath?  Assuming (for now, anyway) he's guilty, he is serving his time, and isn't likely to get out.

[ISpyWithMyEye]

IMO the mental illnesses suffered by June and SC go to the heart of the case. But in terms of JB's conviction the blood/silencer are at the heart of the case.

But you’re not qualified to give an opinion on June, Sheila’s, or Jeremy’s mental conditions, Holly

You can relay what qualified psychiatrists who assessed all of them said; for example, the prison psychiatrist who diagnosed Jeremy as being a psychopath, but you’re in no position to say what you “think” they all suffered from as you’re unqualified.

[Holly Goodhead]

But you’re not qualified to give an opinion on June, Sheila’s, or Jeremy’s mental conditions, Holly

You can relay what qualified psychiatrists who assessed all of them said; for example, the prison psychiatrist who diagnosed Jeremy as being a psychopath, but you’re in no position to say what you “think” they all suffered from as you’re unqualified.

That is why I prefixed it with IMO!

The following is not evidence of psychopathy.  Why would a psychopath need to push the awfulness of what happened at WHF to the back of the mind until it falls off when they are lacking in  conscience and empathy?

[Common sense]

That is why I prefixed it with IMO!

The following is not evidence of psychopathy.  Why would a psychopath need to push the awfulness of what happened at WHF to the back of the mind until it falls off when they are lacking in  conscience and empathy?

Because he had been arrested and charged and self preservation took over.