Why has Bamber campaigned to say he isn't a psychopath?

[Angelo222]

The parole board have recently agreed to release murderer Ian Simms despite his refusal to disclose where his victim Helen McCourts remains are https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-51034590

1999
“But Mrs McCourt, whose daughter's body has not been found, said: "Prisoners should not have the privilege of contact with journalists [to] publicise either their cases, for monetary gain or to boost their egos and self esteem."
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/1999/jul/09/claredyer

It's time the law was changed so that convicted killers and their hangers-on cannot exploit the press and media as is being attempted in Bamber's case.

[Holly Goodhead]

It's time the law was changed so that convicted killers and their hangers-on cannot exploit the press and media as is being attempted in Bamber's case.

I'm inclined to agree with you on this.  JB isn't going anywhere without substantial new forensic evidence.  Imo he would be better off keeping his head down and working on an appeal with his lawyer.

[Holly Goodhead]

It's time the law was changed so that convicted killers and their hangers-on cannot exploit the press and media as is being attempted in Bamber's case.

Would you extend this to book authors and TV producers who have free rein as evidenced by the current series on Itv? 

[Nicholas]

It's time the law was changed so that convicted killers and their hangers-on cannot exploit the press and media as is being attempted in Bamber's case.

You could always make a complaint to the ministry of justice

Though in Bamber’s case I suspect they have reams of intelligence on him and are well aware of his exploitative nature

[ISpyWithMyEye]

It’s possible that Jeremy Bamber either doesn’t realise he’s a psychopath or refuses to accept it.

He showed huge signs of psychopathy when sat with the police outside the farmhouse: his general manner was calm, collected, and he even spoke several times about buying a Porsche. No normal person who’s terrified that their whole family are in mortal danger would even think about sports cars...

He was so calm, in fact, that when one officer later arrived on the scene he mistook JB for a detective: such was his calm manner.

It’s known that June accidentally dropped him on his head when a baby, and I think (though it isn’t corroborated) he suffered a fractured skull. It’s a fact that head injuries can cause psychopathy, and when Jeremy failed his medical examination to train to become a registered scuba diver in NZ, in the hope of teaching, he blamed Sheila for dropping him on his head.

In some ways you have to pity him if that accident caused his psychopathy, the whole thing is tragic all round. But even psychopaths, despite their lack of empathy and their warped emotions know right from wrong. He isn’t unintelligent or suffering from mania, so however devoid of emotions he may be, he would have known it was wrong to kill all his family — but he didn’t care.

[Angelo222]

It’s possible that Jeremy Bamber either doesn’t realise he’s a psychopath or refuses to accept it.

He showed huge signs of psychopathy when sat with the police outside the farmhouse: his general manner was calm, collected, and he even spoke several times about buying a Porsche. No normal person who’s terrified that their whole family are in mortal danger would even think about sports cars...

He was so calm, in fact, that when one officer later arrived on the scene he mistook JB for a detective: such was his calm manner.

It’s known that June accidentally dropped him on his head when a baby, and I think (though it isn’t corroborated) he suffered a fractured skull. It’s a fact that head injuries can cause psychopathy, and when Jeremy failed his medical examination to train to become a registered scuba diver in NZ, in the hope of teaching, he blamed Sheila for dropping him on his head.

In some ways you have to pity him if that accident caused his psychopathy, the whole thing is tragic all round. But even psychopaths, despite their lack of empathy and their warped emotions know right from wrong. He isn’t unintelligent or suffering from mania, so however devoid of emotions he may be, he would have known it was wrong to kill all his family — but he didn’t care.

Did you know that psychopaths can lose the trait in later life?

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/fulfillment-any-age/201907/is-there-any-hope-the-aging-psychopath

[ISpyWithMyEye]

Did you know that psychopaths can lose the trait in later life?

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/fulfillment-any-age/201907/is-there-any-hope-the-aging-psychopath

From what I’ve read on psychopathy the brain is wired up wrongly or has been damaged, and it’s untreatable

Psychopaths may mellow with age, just like any normal person often does, but you can’t treat or cure psychopathy, just as you can’t unscramble an egg

[Geordie]

From what I’ve read on psychopathy the brain is wired up wrongly or has been damaged, and it’s untreatable

Psychopaths may mellow with age, just like any normal person often does, but you can’t treat or cure psychopathy, just as you can’t unscramble an egg

That was my understanding too. I suppose it's the nature versus nurture debate, genetics versus environment. I understood that a psychopath had a genetic condition but that sociopaths were a product of their environment and that sociopaths often matured as they got older.

Then again there are probably more psychopaths than we realise among the general population. Some of the most successful people in business and/or politics are probably psychopaths but they never go on to kill people. There's probably an environmental factor with psychopaths that do, some stressor that festers and leads them down the path of murder.

Personally, I believe Bamber has all the traits of a psychopath. The thing is psychopaths are aware of the consequences of their actions, they just don't care. Perhaps that is what evil is, the complete absence of empathy.

[Caroline]

That was my understanding too. I suppose it's the nature versus nurture debate, genetics versus environment. I understood that a psychopath had a genetic condition but that sociopaths were a product of their environment and that sociopaths often matured as they got older.

Then again there are probably more psychopaths than we realise among the general population. Some of the most successful people in business and/or politics are probably psychopaths but they never go on to kill people. There's probably an environmental factor with psychopaths that do, some stressor that festers and leads them down the path of murder.

Personally, I believe Bamber has all the traits of a psychopath. The thing is psychopaths are aware of the consequences of their actions, they just don't care. Perhaps that is what evil is, the complete absence of empathy.

This guy should know!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzqn6Z_Iss0&vl=en

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSatsGU5UKQ

[mrswah]

It’s possible that Jeremy Bamber either doesn’t realise he’s a psychopath or refuses to accept it.

He showed huge signs of psychopathy when sat with the police outside the farmhouse: his general manner was calm, collected, and he even spoke several times about buying a Porsche. No normal person who’s terrified that their whole family are in mortal danger would even think about sports cars...

He was so calm, in fact, that when one officer later arrived on the scene he mistook JB for a detective: such was his calm manner.

It’s known that June accidentally dropped him on his head when a baby, and I think (though it isn’t corroborated) he suffered a fractured skull. It’s a fact that head injuries can cause psychopathy, and when Jeremy failed his medical examination to train to become a registered scuba diver in NZ, in the hope of teaching, he blamed Sheila for dropping him on his head.

In some ways you have to pity him if that accident caused his psychopathy, the whole thing is tragic all round. But even psychopaths, despite their lack of empathy and their warped emotions know right from wrong. He isn’t unintelligent or suffering from mania, so however devoid of emotions he may be, he would have known it was wrong to kill all his family — but he didn’t care.

Do you know whether or not he has actually been diagnosed with psychopathy?

I don't know whether or not he is guilty, but what I do suspect, is that he genuinely believes that he isn't!

Interesting what you say about him having suffered a head injury: I believe the same happened to Fred West (in his case, a motorcycle accident). I did read somewhere that head injuries can sometimes lead to people committing awful crimes later.

[APRIL]

Do you know whether or not he has actually been diagnosed with psychopathy?

I don't know whether or not he is guilty, but what I do suspect, is that he genuinely believes that he isn't!

Interesting what you say about him having suffered a head injury: I believe the same happened to Fred West (in his case, a motorcycle accident). I did read somewhere that head injuries can sometimes lead to people committing awful crimes later.

There have been psychiatrists who have said so. It maybe that they were never asked the question so their names don't appear in the information available. There may be others who say otherwise. I doubt whether it actually matters now, anyway. He won't be the only one within the community he inhabits. I don't suppose he's  any more dangerous, within it's confines, than the other residents.

There is a theory that frontal lobe damage may result in psychopathy. It may. But I'm inclined to think that with most, it's innate.

[Caroline]

There have been psychiatrists who have said so. It maybe that they were never asked the question so their names don't appear in the information available. There may be others who say otherwise. I doubt whether it actually matters now, anyway. He won't be the only one within the community he inhabits. I don't suppose he's  any more dangerous, within it's confines, than the other residents.

There is a theory that frontal lobe damage may result in psychopathy. It may. But I'm inclined to think that with most, it's innate.

If you watch the video's above, Dr Fallon has studied the PET scans of murderers, they 'all' have an impaired frontal lobe, either naturally or as a result of an accident. Dr Fallon is famous because he found that he shares similar brain impairments and admits to never having experienced feelings of empathy. He can be classed as a psychopath - and admits to sharing many of the traits in the check list. Many psychopaths exist in society without being violent. The difference between violent and non-violent psychopaths is generally some kind trauma during childhood.

[APRIL]

If you watch the video's above, Dr Fallon has studied the PET scans of murderers, they 'all' have an impaired frontal lobe, either naturally or as a result of an accident. Dr Fallon is famous because he found that he shares similar brain impairments and admits to never having experienced feelings of empathy. He can be classed as a psychopath - and admits to sharing many of the traits in the check list. Many psychopaths exist in society without being violent. The difference between violent and non-violent psychopaths is generally some kind trauma during childhood.

It may be the reason why Jeremy has refused the release of his medical records.

[Admin]

Do you know whether or not he has actually been diagnosed with psychopathy?

I don't know whether or not he is guilty, but what I do suspect, is that he genuinely believes that he isn't!

Interesting what you say about him having suffered a head injury: I believe the same happened to Fred West (in his case, a motorcycle accident). I did read somewhere that head injuries can sometimes lead to people committing awful crimes later.

He claims he hasn't been but I for one wouldn't believe a thing he writes.  Anyone incarcerated for 35 years as Jeremy Bamber has been will surely now be institutionalised and exhibit the mental illness associated with it.

[Caroline]

Do you know whether or not he has actually been diagnosed with psychopathy?

I don't know whether or not he is guilty, but what I do suspect, is that he genuinely believes that he isn't!

Interesting what you say about him having suffered a head injury: I believe the same happened to Fred West (in his case, a motorcycle accident). I did read somewhere that head injuries can sometimes lead to people committing awful crimes later.

That being the case, he wouldn't need to be evasive or deliberately ignore questions.