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Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Why has Bamber campaigned to say he isn't a psychopath?
« Reply #135 on: May 09, 2020, 11:16:41 AM »
In your professional opinion? You basically slander Fletcher and no one is allowed to refer to Bamber as a psychopath, not even the psychiatrist who classified him as one pretrial; but you're able to apply a 'high probability' diagnosis on Sheila? Also, if Sheila suffered an attachment disorder- then so did Jeremy, there's a high probability that culminated in him becoming a psychopath.

https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/55765296.pdf

The psychiatrist who diagnosed JB as a psychopath?  You mean an excerpt from a book that comes with poetic licence and is contradictory?  Why would a psychopath need to push the awfulness of committing a heinous act to the back of the mind until it falls off when they lack a conscience and empathy enabling them to commit such an act in the fist place?

There's a crucial difference between SC and JB's upbringing and that's that SC, unlike JB, was exposed to June's severe depression during the all important attachment phase.  I believe also JB had far fewer care givers during this phase too.

There's a correlation between attachment disorders and numerous issues incl psychopathy, filicide, violence and suicide. 
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Caroline

Re: Why has Bamber campaigned to say he isn't a psychopath?
« Reply #136 on: May 09, 2020, 01:54:04 PM »
The psychiatrist who diagnosed JB as a psychopath?  You mean an excerpt from a book that comes with poetic licence and is contradictory?  Why would a psychopath need to push the awfulness of committing a heinous act to the back of the mind until it falls off when they lack a conscience and empathy enabling them to commit such an act in the fist place?

There's a crucial difference between SC and JB's upbringing and that's that SC, unlike JB, was exposed to June's severe depression during the all important attachment phase.  I believe also JB had far fewer care givers during this phase too.

There's a correlation between attachment disorders and numerous issues incl psychopathy, filicide, violence and suicide.

What he said doesn't matter Holly, he classified Bamber as a psychopath and he was hired by the defence. No matter how much you play it down or try to pick away at it, in the early stages pre-trial, he WAS classified as a psychopath!

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Why has Bamber campaigned to say he isn't a psychopath?
« Reply #137 on: May 09, 2020, 02:25:32 PM »
That is why I prefixed it with IMO!

The following is not evidence of psychopathy.  Why would a psychopath need to push the awfulness of what happened at WHF to the back of the mind until it falls off when they are lacking in  conscience and empathy?
In order to put up a convincing display of innocence and victim hood, a bit like a method actor.
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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: Why has Bamber campaigned to say he isn't a psychopath?
« Reply #138 on: May 09, 2020, 05:31:21 PM »
I'm not referring to the diagnosis of paranoid schizophrenia. I'm referring to a high probability SC suffered an attachment disorder as a result of multiple caregivers during the early years and June's severe depression caused by her decision to adopt SC.


Where has any psychiatrist said they thought Sheila had Paranoid Schizophrenia? Have you a link, please?

In the reports I’ve read Sheila’s psychiatrist in Harley Street believed she had MILD SCHIZOPHRENIA. And that was later in his diagnosis. When he first assessed Sheila he never suggested she even had Schizophrenia — it was only later that he came to that conclusion. 

It’s a pity that Sheila wasn’t referred to another psychiatrist, not just for a second opinion, but it’s well-known that many, many doctors who rent rooms in Harley Street aren’t as qualified as they seem. I’m not saying Dr Ferguson wasn’t a fully qualified psychiatrist — I’m sure his credentials were checked by the solicitors — but even if he was an esteemed consultant psychiatrist that doesn’t mean he necessarily diagnosed Sheila correctly. It’s already been shown that there were discrepancies between him and Sheila’s GP....perhaps they should have delved deeper into that.
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Why has Bamber campaigned to say he isn't a psychopath?
« Reply #139 on: May 09, 2020, 06:05:16 PM »

Where has any psychiatrist said they thought Sheila had Paranoid Schizophrenia? Have you a link, please?

In the reports I’ve read Sheila’s psychiatrist in Harley Street believed she had MILD SCHIZOPHRENIA. And that was later in his diagnosis. When he first assessed Sheila he never suggested she even had Schizophrenia — it was only later that he came to that conclusion. 

It’s a pity that Sheila wasn’t referred to another psychiatrist, not just for a second opinion, but it’s well-known that many, many doctors who rent rooms in Harley Street aren’t as qualified as they seem. I’m not saying Dr Ferguson wasn’t a fully qualified psychiatrist — I’m sure his credentials were checked by the solicitors — but even if he was an esteemed consultant psychiatrist that doesn’t mean he necessarily diagnosed Sheila correctly. It’s already been shown that there were discrepancies between him and Sheila’s GP....perhaps they should have delved deeper into that.

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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: Why has Bamber campaigned to say he isn't a psychopath?
« Reply #140 on: May 10, 2020, 11:37:37 AM »
That is why I prefixed it with IMO!

The following is not evidence of psychopathy.  Why would a psychopath need to push the awfulness of what happened at WHF to the back of the mind until it falls off when they are lacking in  conscience and empathy?

But your opinion is of no value to anyone as you lack the knowledge, education and expertise that profession psychiatrists have.
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Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #141 on: May 11, 2020, 11:00:22 AM »
But your opinion is of no value to anyone as you lack the knowledge, education and expertise that profession psychiatrists have.

Perhaps those who offer endless examples of 'evidence' of Jeremy Bamber's psychopathy should acknowledge their lack of qualifications also.
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Offline Caroline

Re: Why has Bamber campaigned to say he isn't a psychopath?
« Reply #142 on: May 11, 2020, 08:34:46 PM »
Perhaps those who offer endless examples of 'evidence' of Jeremy Bamber's psychopathy should acknowledge their lack of qualifications also.

But it's not our qualifications we rely on, it's the qualifications of the psychiatrist that classified Bamber as a psychopath pre-trial.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Why has Bamber campaigned to say he isn't a psychopath?
« Reply #143 on: May 11, 2020, 08:59:48 PM »
Perhaps those who offer endless examples of 'evidence' of Jeremy Bamber's psychopathy should acknowledge their lack of qualifications also.
I’ve already acknowledged that.  I am not qualified but I am perceptive.  I can see someone on the telly (like just now on Grayson Perry’s Art Club) and be able to tell that they are on the autistic spectrum, all without having any qualifications on the subject whatsoever.
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Re: Why has Bamber campaigned to say he isn't a psychopath?
« Reply #144 on: May 11, 2020, 09:40:10 PM »
I’ve already acknowledged that.  I am not qualified but I am perceptive.  I can see someone on the telly (like just now on Grayson Perry’s Art Club) and be able to tell that they are on the autistic spectrum, all without having any qualifications on the subject whatsoever.

Can you tell I'm on the autistic spectrum from reading my posts (just as a matter of interest)?

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Why has Bamber campaigned to say he isn't a psychopath?
« Reply #145 on: May 11, 2020, 09:54:31 PM »
But it's not our qualifications we rely on, it's the qualifications of the psychiatrist that classified Bamber as a psychopath pre-trial.

Why don't you ask NGB what his views are re defence counsel discussing a case being appealed with a book author?

How come Roger Wilkes is the only author/journalist/docu maker to secure a meeting with counsel in their Chambers?   What advantage/benefit to them in assisting an author?

Is it the norm for defence counsel to discuss defendents who are subsequently convicted whether they are appealing or not?   

What are the Bar Council rules?

I seem to recall Paul Harrison also claimed a chance meeting with Ed Lawson?
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Why has Bamber campaigned to say he isn't a psychopath?
« Reply #146 on: May 11, 2020, 10:03:44 PM »
Can you tell I'm on the autistic spectrum from reading my posts (just as a matter of interest)?
No.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Why has Bamber campaigned to say he isn't a psychopath?
« Reply #147 on: May 11, 2020, 10:11:40 PM »

I've got chronic OCD if anyone is interested.  No?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Why has Bamber campaigned to say he isn't a psychopath?
« Reply #148 on: May 11, 2020, 10:16:21 PM »
I've got chronic OCD if anyone is interested.  No?
It’s better than having chronic bad breath, something which I’m also able to detect in others, and I’m not even a medical professional.
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Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Why has Bamber campaigned to say he isn't a psychopath?
« Reply #149 on: May 11, 2020, 10:42:43 PM »
It’s better than having chronic bad breath, something which I’m also able to detect in others, and I’m not even a medical professional.

LOL.  Surely not if you're practising social distancing  @)(++(* Bad breath at over 2m  8)><(
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?