The name calling which marks this case out.

[Mr Gray]

Then again perhaps she should have answered all the questions put to her frankly and honestly and then just possibly they could have been finally cleared of suspicion.  However, as it stands, the Portuguese Supreme Court in their final judgement made the extraordinary pronouncement to the effect that at things stand, they had not been cleared.

Gerry answered all the question so is he cleared of, all suspicion... In effect the SC are absolutely  correct in their statement as the mccanns have not been cleared as they have never been charged.... That should not imply any guilt

[G-Unit]

I would imagine most police officers both here and in Portugal have been "abused" in much more colourful language than "Tweedledum and Tweedledee.
I hope they have received counseling to enable them to cope with such abuse.

I agree, so no need, as I said, to be concerned about them. It's the person telling everyone about her low opinion of them who is more in need of help in my opinion.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Then again perhaps she should have answered all the questions put to her frankly and honestly and then just possibly they could have been finally cleared of suspicion.  However, as it stands, the Portuguese Supreme Court in their final judgement made the extraordinary pronouncement to the effect that at things stand, they had not been cleared.

I think this is what we call in Forumland a "strawman".  It certainly has no bearing on the topic subject header "the name calling which marks this case out". IMO.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Is that an attempt to show how childish you are, how ignorant you are,how small beer you are or all three?

I have reported your comment a it is clearly an ad hom but before it gets deleted perhaps you would care to explain in what way my comment was
a) childish
b) ignorant
c"small beer" (whatever that means)
It is a fact that some people find the two comments I mentioned highly offensive and take especial exception to them being used in relation to the PJ.  Perhaps you could comment on that, rather than on me.  Many thanks.

[Erngath]

I agree, so no need, as I said, to be concerned about them. It's the person telling everyone about her low opinion of them who is more in need of help in my opinion.

She and her husband were indeed in need of professional and experienced police support.
I'm sure Kate would appreciate your concern.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I'm not 'terribly offended on the pj’s behalf' at all. It was said about them, not to them. The Tweedledum and Tweedledee comment I find unwarranted and childish. Consequently I see Kate's decision to tell the world how her mind works as an error of judgement. Not everyone applauds when the police are abused.

It depends which police are being abused though doesn't it?  There's a few on this forum who mock the efforts of the Met and their "wild goose chase" in PdL, but I don't see you condemning such mockery.  Why is that? 

[Vertigo Swirl]

I agree, so no need, as I said, to be concerned about them. It's the person telling everyone about her low opinion of them who is more in need of help in my opinion.

Why does she need help exactly?  Because she has a low opinion of the police, or because she expressed it in a book?  What sort of help should she be given in your view?

[Erngath]

It depends which police are being abused though doesn't it?  There's a few on this forum who mock the efforts of the Met and their "wild goose chase" in PdL, but I don't see you condemning such mockery.  Why is that?

My goodness me how correct you are.
Just think of the nicknames and condemnation given to those involved in OG.

[Vertigo Swirl]

It's a funny old world when, on the Miscarriage Of Justice forum of all places, it's seen as bad form to criticise or "name-call" the police (unless they're British of course, and then that's OK).   In Greece, when Ben Needham went missing the Greek PM himself described his own country's police as "ill-educated and incompetent" - so why is it bad form for a civilian who believes themselves to be on the receiving end of foreign police incompetence to say so in no uncertain terms? 

[Robittybob1]

I see nothing wrong with the phrase praying Arab or Arab at prayer. It is simply a description that everyone will recognise. Now fu**ing tosser’, I do find that offensive and especially when directed at a police officer who was only doing his job.

I say that about your post too, but weren't they just thoughts in her head, not words said aloud?

[Robittybob1]

Did you mean to say taking the kick? I've not heard that saying before. In my opinion too much is being read into what Silvia Batista said, she was just describing what she saw. Anything else is opinion as we don't know what her intentions were.

There is no doubt that Kate McCann's remarks about the GNR officers were derogatory and were intended to be.

To me they seemed bewildered and out of their depth, and I couldn’t shake the images of Tweedledum and
Tweedledee out of my head. [madeleine]

What Kate said about the GNR was factual, they were out of their depth.   Not  a good position to in when attending an incident.  Somehow that speaks of the McCanns innocence doesn't it. 

If they had committed the crime themselves they would be only too happy to have  bumbling police officers at the scene.  You would hardly be asking for  super-efficient PJ officers to be there if you are trying to get away with a crime!

It might even be a mistake to treat both the McCann parents as a unit, they are two individuals who had had the opportunity to act separately during the day.  GA split them, remember the incident over the  plea bargain, Kate was to go to prison for a couple of years but Gerry would be free to be the breadwinner.  The plan wasn't to goal both of them equally.

[Miss Taken Identity]

In my opinion the above stills from Amaral's depiction of the scene from his book epitomises your sentiment precisely. 

I found the depiction indeed childish, ignorant, small beer as well as petty, mean and spiteful.

In my opinion, this display of drama is quite unnerving actually. They are like 'praying arabs' because that is how arabs pray, catholics only kneel and bow the head slightly.

PS  I checked with my closest Muslim friend and he couldn't stop laughing at people being offended by the way he prays.

This dramatic effect would confuse police officers. And it is important to recognise when they got all distressed like.. hmm yeah when the police arrived. Strange indeed.

[G-Unit]

She and her husband were indeed in need of professional and experienced police support.
I'm sure Kate would appreciate your concern.

In your opinion and in their opinion the Portuguese police fell short. Whether those opinions are valid or not I don't know. I'm not concerned about Kate McCann at all because I don't know her. If one of my relatives or friends chose to share similar thoughts so frankly four years after the event I would be concerned that they were making themselves look vindictive. The GNR officers on and off duty came to search for her daughter all night and carried on for seven days. Were they ever thanked for their efforts?

[Robittybob1]

In your opinion and in their opinion the Portuguese police fell short. Whether those opinions are valid or not I don't know. I'm not concerned about Kate McCann at all because I don't know her. If one of my relatives or friends chose to share similar thoughts so frankly four years after the event I would be concerned that they were making themselves look vindictive. The GNR officers on and off duty came to search for her daughter all night and carried on for seven days. Were they ever thanked for their efforts?

If you thought your child was abducted and everyone just carries on as if she has wandered off, and in the long run it appears your thoughts are proven right because the child is not found, I don't see the need to be grateful for the unsuccessful searches.

[Vertigo Swirl]

In my opinion, this display of drama is quite unnerving actually. They are like 'praying arabs' because that is how arabs pray, catholics only kneel and bow the head slightly.

PS  I checked with my closest Muslim friend and he couldn't stop laughing at people being offended by the way he prays.

This dramatic effect would confuse police officers. And it is important to recognise when they got all distressed like.. hmm yeah when the police arrived. Strange indeed.

No one here is offended by the way Muslims pray, what a very strange misinterpretation of what has been said.