Author Topic: The name calling which marks this case out.  (Read 28051 times)

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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: The name calling which marks this case out.
« Reply #120 on: April 24, 2018, 10:51:06 PM »
Don't bring "her family" into it.  I'm talking about Kate's point of view.


Kate's point of view has been well documented -, sold to the media, forced upon a mislead UK public, and trashed by many experts in the field.

She comes across as a vindictive, unstable person IMO name calling, police officers, cursing Amaral, then acting all catholic mother like butter wouldn't melt... even though catholic mothers are never encouraged to drink and leave their children alone.. it is all show.show show. most people can see right through it.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: The name calling which marks this case out.
« Reply #121 on: April 24, 2018, 10:54:55 PM »

Kate's point of view has been well documented -, sold to the media, forced upon a mislead UK public, and trashed by many experts in the field.

She comes across as a vindictive, unstable person IMO name calling, police officers, cursing Amaral, then acting all catholic mother like butter wouldn't melt... even though catholic mothers are never encouraged to drink and leave their children alone.. it is all show.show show. most people can see right through it.

vindictive...unstable...might be best to choose your words carefully when writing such a post

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: The name calling which marks this case out.
« Reply #122 on: April 24, 2018, 11:03:09 PM »
of course, not all Arabs are Muslims so at the very least it was a somewhat ignorant stereotype.

Gosh what a revelation! we never knew that.
As I recall from days in Amman approx 6% are Christian. So in Jordan at least a "typical" Arab will be Muslim.
Would you care to delineate your proposition?
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: The name calling which marks this case out.
« Reply #123 on: April 24, 2018, 11:09:34 PM »
I say that about your post too, but weren't they just thoughts in her head, not words said aloud?

They were words in her head until she decided to write them down and publish them.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline slartibartfast

Re: The name calling which marks this case out.
« Reply #124 on: April 24, 2018, 11:11:18 PM »
We are looking at it from Kate's point of view.  She thinks her child has been abducted and no effort is being made to investigate that. 
IMO Madeleine woke and wandered so I think the searching was essential.   It all depends on your point of view.

We don’t know what she thinks.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: The name calling which marks this case out.
« Reply #125 on: April 24, 2018, 11:14:41 PM »
Please stop trying to wriggle the contents of my words to suit your interpretation. Thank you.

 it is very clear to me that some people were complaining that the terminology was  indeed insulting.
 
cite?  I can find no witness comments on the distressed state as was described by SB and PJ officers who also saw this behaviour before the arrival of the police. They did not fall down like praying arabs, screaming etc in the tapas bar, or back at the flat, or in the street. So I cannot cite they did this, as it isn't documented by anyone who was there. Can you provide a cite that they did behave like this before the PJ arrived?
As I haven't suggested they did I don't think the onus is on me to provide a cite.  You however claimed the McCanns were only distressed when the police arrived.  There are plenty of witnesses to their distress both before and after the police arrived, aren't there?  Or is it only real distress if you look like you're praying like an Arab (sic)?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline slartibartfast

Re: The name calling which marks this case out.
« Reply #126 on: April 24, 2018, 11:15:54 PM »
vindictive...unstable...might be best to choose your words carefully when writing such a post

You missed she comes across as ...
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: The name calling which marks this case out.
« Reply #127 on: April 24, 2018, 11:16:52 PM »

Kate's point of view has been well documented -, sold to the media, forced upon a mislead UK public, and trashed by many experts in the field.

She comes across as a vindictive, unstable person IMO name calling, police officers, cursing Amaral, then acting all catholic mother like butter wouldn't melt... even though catholic mothers are never encouraged to drink and leave their children alone.. it is all show.show show. most people can see right through it.
so what is it when people make statements like the above about Kate McCann?  Perfectly unvindictive?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: The name calling which marks this case out.
« Reply #128 on: April 24, 2018, 11:19:45 PM »
Gosh what a revelation! we never knew that.
As I recall from days in Amman approx 6% are Christian. So in Jordan at least a "typical" Arab will be Muslim.
Would you care to delineate your proposition?
I made a statement of fact, what's your problem with it? 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Robittybob1

Re: The name calling which marks this case out.
« Reply #129 on: April 25, 2018, 04:04:19 AM »
They were words in her head until she decided to write them down and publish them.
I doubt if she names these officers.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: The name calling which marks this case out.
« Reply #130 on: April 25, 2018, 07:25:25 AM »
It depends which police are being abused though doesn't it?  There's a few on this forum who mock the efforts of the Met and their "wild goose chase" in PdL, but I don't see you condemning such mockery.  Why is that?

I think there's a difference between criticising an investigation on a forum and making personal comments about individual police officers in a book.
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: The name calling which marks this case out.
« Reply #131 on: April 25, 2018, 07:29:43 AM »
I doubt if she names these officers.

...and?
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline G-Unit

Re: The name calling which marks this case out.
« Reply #132 on: April 25, 2018, 07:39:32 AM »
If you thought your child was abducted and everyone just carries on as if she has wandered off, and in the long run it appears your thoughts are proven right because the child is not found, I don't see the need to be grateful for the unsuccessful searches.

So when the police arrive at a crime scene their job is to carry out the instructions of those they find on the spot, not to make their own decisions?
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Offline G-Unit

Re: The name calling which marks this case out.
« Reply #133 on: April 25, 2018, 07:42:21 AM »
If one of your relatives or friends was badly treated by the police (in their view) do you think expressing how they felt at the time about the way they were handled would be just them being vindictive, and not simply them expressing an honestly held view of their feelings?  Do you view every strongly worded public criticism of police behaviour as simply vindictive?

Criticism is one thing, name-calling another.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: The name calling which marks this case out.
« Reply #134 on: April 25, 2018, 07:44:26 AM »
I think there's a difference between criticising an investigation on a forum and making personal comments about individual police officers in a book.
What essentially is the main difference in your view?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".